Spademan 94 Posted July 3, 2009 Author Share Posted July 3, 2009 Spademan, just curious... have you ever experienced love?What is it with you people and love?Platonic love? Yes.I love my mom and my dog.Love mixed with lust? Nope.Not yet. Link to post Share on other sites
theresa113 0 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 What is it with you people and love?Platonic love? Yes.I love my mom and my dog.Love mixed with lust? Nope.Not yet.Because it is when this happens that life no longer is black and white. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Because it is when this happens that life no longer is black and white.Thats ridiculous. For the record, I have experienced all of these things and pretty much agree with Spademan 100% in this subforum. Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted July 3, 2009 Share Posted July 3, 2009 Platonic love? Yes.I love my momgood thing freud isn't here Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 Because it is when this happens that life no longer is black and white.My eyes just rolled so far into the back of my head that if I believed in god I'd be thanking him for the fact that I didn't damage any nerves in the process.Also, I vomited. Link to post Share on other sites
theresa113 0 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 My eyes just rolled so far into the back of my head that if I believed in god I'd be thanking him for the fact that I didn't damage any nerves in the process.Also, I vomited.OK, I know the romantic approach to any argument would never ever fly on this forum. I am also not arguing any side of any of these debates.But I do want to say that some people experience something in their lives that changes their perspective of their reality to where you no longer see everything as black and white but you start looking at everything as not so defined. I was reading another one of these religious threads where one poster felt that there were different variances of atheism and Spademan pointed out that that he does not discount all possibilities and it is rare for an atheist to be that extreme. I have been naive in my assumptions of those who are posting in these threads from the atheist point of view. My thought was that the atheists were coming from such an obstinate stance that in my opinion, they were sounding just as irrational as the extreme religious right. I apologize for my incorrect assumption. So, I will go ahead and state my beliefs so that anyone who participates in this forum can immediately discount anything I say. I believe that God is Love. That is it. No more, no less. So when someone asks me do I believe in God, the answer is yes. But I do not believe in God the way most people believe in God. There is no magic space dragon zombie in the sky. But I can not call myself an atheist either because my truth is that there is something that unites all of us. That something to me is love, hence love is God and God is Love.I have many, many issues with organized religion but if someone wants to partake in it, then go ahead. I would never impose on someones freedom of religion. However, I worry when anyone blindly follows anything. I even worry that my simplistic view of God is somehow blind faith, and this is why I recently started reading the religious forum again. Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 So, I will go ahead and state my beliefs so that anyone who participates in this forum can immediately discount anything I say. I believe that God is Love. That is it. No more, no less. So when someone asks me do I believe in God, the answer is yes. But I do not believe in God the way most people believe in God. There is no magic space dragon zombie in the sky. But I can not call myself an atheist either because my truth is that there is something that unites all of us. That something to me is love, hence love is God and God is Love.no offense but unless you specifically define what you mean by the terms love, god, and unites that's just a string of extremely vague essentually meaningless statements.also just because you believe in a metaphysical connection of some kind doesn't make you not an atheist, just as traditional buddhists are considered atheists by any reasonable meaning of the word. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted July 4, 2009 Author Share Posted July 4, 2009 There is no magic space dragon zombie in the sky.Hehe.So, I will go ahead and state my beliefs so that anyone who participates in this forum can immediately discount anything I say.Hehe.But I can not call myself an atheist either because my truth is that there is something that unites all of us.According to what you've stated, which lacks any religion or personal god, you are an atheist because you are without believe in theism. It's ok to say it, nobody is burning us at the stake these days in the U.S.Also, this "thing" that unites us, this nebulous "something"... do you feel it is something separate from us, something outside of us, or inside of us, or both? You call it love, but what does that mean? If you changed the word "love" with "mind" would it matter? Are you familiar with buddhism? Do you like cream cheese?Ok, forget that last question, sometimes I just get on a roll. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted July 4, 2009 Author Share Posted July 4, 2009 no offense but unless you specifically define what you mean by the terms love, god, and unites that's just a string of extremely vague essentually meaningless statements.also just because you believe in a metaphysical connection of some kind doesn't make you not an atheist, just as traditional buddhists are considered atheists by any reasonable meaning of the word.Your shorter post allowed you to get most of the same questions in first.Bastard.Well, that it was shorter and I stopped to eat in the middle of writing mine. Link to post Share on other sites
theresa113 0 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 According to what you've stated, which lacks any religion or personal god, you are an atheist because you are without believe in theism. It's ok to say it, nobody is burning us at the stake these days in the U.S.Also, this "thing" that unites us, this nebulous "something"... do you feel it is something separate from us, something outside of us, or inside of us, or both? You call it love, but what does that mean? If you changed the word "love" with "mind" would it matter? Are you familiar with buddhism? Do you like cream cheese?Ok, forget that last question, sometimes I just get on a roll. Also, this "thing" that unites us, this nebulous "something"... do you feel it is something separate from us, something outside of us, or inside of us, or both? I think it is both. If you changed the word "love" with "mind" would it matter? Not sure but I think it would. If you are referring to mind as in the energy of thought, than probably not. But if it were about the actual thought itself, I would say substituting that word would make a difference.Are you familiar with Buddhism? Yes, I am. Do you like cream cheese? Only with Nova. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted July 4, 2009 Author Share Posted July 4, 2009 Also, this "thing" that unites us, this nebulous "something"... do you feel it is something separate from us, something outside of us, or inside of us, or both? I think it is both. If you changed the word "love" with "mind" would it matter? Not sure but I think it would. If you are referring to mind as in the energy of thought, than probably not. But if it were about the actual thought itself, I would say substituting that word would make a difference.Are you familiar with Buddhism? Yes, I am. Do you like cream cheese? Only with Nova.I see.p.s. What the fuck is "Nova" in regards to edible fare? Link to post Share on other sites
theresa113 0 Posted July 4, 2009 Share Posted July 4, 2009 I see.p.s. What the fuck is "Nova" in regards to edible fare?Salmon, a type of lox. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted July 4, 2009 Author Share Posted July 4, 2009 Salmon, a type of lox.Sounds like protein.De'lish. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted July 5, 2009 Share Posted July 5, 2009 My eyes just rolled so far into the back of my head that if I believed in god I'd be thanking him for the fact that I didn't damage any nerves in the process.Also, I vomited.:this Link to post Share on other sites
perdoo 0 Posted July 6, 2009 Share Posted July 6, 2009 not having a degree in Theology.. all I can offer to the dialogue as a whole is this...JESUS SAVESOvechkin scores on the rebound though Link to post Share on other sites
Plus one 0 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 not having a degree in Theology.. all I can offer to the dialogue as a whole is this...JESUS SAVESOvechkin scores on the rebound though Applauding your own joke is lame enuf, but I hope your not trying to pass off a 30 yr old saying as your own. Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 Applauding your own joke is lame enuf, but I hope your not trying to pass off a 30 yr old saying as your own.I hope you aren't trying to pass off this post as a product of an educated adult. Link to post Share on other sites
crowTrobot 2 Posted July 7, 2009 Share Posted July 7, 2009 I hope you aren't trying to pass off this post as a product of an educated adult.at least he knows where the caps key is Link to post Share on other sites
Spademan 94 Posted July 7, 2009 Author Share Posted July 7, 2009 at least he knows where the caps key isI know, right?Those stupid ass non-caps users are really retar...Oh, shit.So, yea... uhm, how about that fearless society we were talking about elsewhere. Heh. Heh. *nervous and awkward shuffling* Link to post Share on other sites
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