Abortion Thread

[CaneBrain 95]

How about this one:

The bodies exhibit at the Luxor made a better case. (Thats a cute baby though. The other one has a mustache. Be wary.)The difference between a fetus at 4-6 weeks and a fetus at 16-18 weeks is incredible. At what point should that fetus' rights trump the rights to control one's own body? Thats a tough question. Right now, we say like 12 weeks or so? That seems ok with me since it is ok with a majority of women.

[El Guapo 8]

(Thats a cute baby though. The other one has a mustache. Be wary.)

He's a sneaky little bastard. Well I guess technically he's not a bastard, but that doesn't make him any less sneaky.

[Mercury69 3]

So if they find a gay gene, and people begin aborting any baby with the gay gene...would that be good, bad or neither?In India they abort most female babies, they want males

Pipe leg jeans and jeans with the ass cut out are pretty gay, imo. Babies wearing these should be aborted or hunted down and killed if they manage to survive birth. Unless, of course, they can whip up a classic French meal or paint a rockin' mural. Hell, we can't kill all the young artists, can we?

[hblask 1]

23 weeks is pretty ridiculously late term, isn't it? this has to have been illegal.

My middle child was born at 23 weeks, and will start kindergarten soon.

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outside cases of rape, i pretty much think that should apply to all cases of anything, abortion included--if you make a decision and aren't willing to address the consequences of that decision, be it having an abortion or creating a horribly misleading thread title, then you're not being a responsible person, plain and simple.that statement doesn't have any bearing on the legality of various procedures, however.

hahah... My plan working perfectly. I can check "annoy checky" off my daily task list now.

That there is a difference in how we are inclined to treat three cells in a dish compared to how we treat something that looks like a tiny version of a person is not strange to me at all. Where specifically to draw the line seems like a difficult question, but that doesn't mean we should just give up on making any distinction.

I love this thought. You are correct, we shouldn't give up talking about it, because we need to make a decision.

My middle child was born at 23 weeks, and will start kindergarten soon.

You're very lucky... isn't the youngest ever born something like 21 weeks? Either way.... incredible.As for me personally, I think abortion is barbaric and should be outlawed outright. From a public policy standpoint however, it should OBVIOUSLY be a state issue and not a federal issue. States that vote to outlaw it should have to right to do so.

[85suited 0]

Any woman responding in this thread yet??Well, I'm a woman and I believe in FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!!!!!!Here in Wisconsin a mother who is just 21 and has 5 kids already, let her 2 month old baby starve to death. Whats more humane?? Or inhumane?? I have no idea if abortion was even an option to her. But I'd rather see someone like that NOT have a child (she should be spade to be honest) than to have one and torture it for 2 months.I dont however think abortion should be a form of birth control. I am against that. We should have better sex education courses in middle school and high school....

Adoption is not an option?

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Also, can anyone explain to me why Mercury has a fat chick in underwear for his sig?

[LongLiveYorke 38]

Also, can anyone explain to me why Mercury has a fat chick in underwear for his sig?

I think it's a hockey thing.

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The law he broke was in not allowng the baby to fully die on the table before he put him in the trash.This is not an uncommon happening in late term abortions, born alive, left to die on a table.Never should have let women vote

hahaha

I'm pro choice.I don't think abortions about three, maybe four months should be legal. If the baby has a chance of surviving outside of the womb, then abortions shouldn't be allowed.That's my 2 cents.

The bodies exhibit at the Luxor made a better case. (Thats a cute baby though. The other one has a mustache. Be wary.)The difference between a fetus at 4-6 weeks and a fetus at 16-18 weeks is incredible. At what point should that fetus' rights trump the rights to control one's own body? Thats a tough question. Right now, we say like 12 weeks or so? That seems ok with me since it is ok with a majority of women.

yep. the only thing I find appalling (buzzword today! hooaahhh) is that this was done so late. late-term abortions are like slowrolling without cause.

[Zealous Donkey 0]

I'm pro choice.I don't think abortions about three, maybe four months should be legal. If the baby has a chance of surviving outside of the womb, then abortions shouldn't be allowed.That's my 2 cents.

The bodies exhibit at the Luxor made a better case. (Thats a cute baby though. The other one has a mustache. Be wary.)The difference between a fetus at 4-6 weeks and a fetus at 16-18 weeks is incredible. At what point should that fetus' rights trump the rights to control one's own body? Thats a tough question. Right now, we say like 12 weeks or so? That seems ok with me since it is ok with a majority of women.

yep. the only thing I find appalling (buzzword today! hooaahhh) is that this was done so late. late-term abortions are like slowrolling without cause.

The issue is "what" is being done, not when it is being done. The result is the same weather it is done the first week or the 24th week, the result-- a human being's one and only chance of existence in the world is being terminated.

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The issue is "what" is being done, not when it is being done. The result is the same weather it is done the first week or the 24th week, the result-- a human being's one and only chance of existence in the world is being terminated.

you're proposing that we force a massive number of people into unsafe, underground abortion clinics. sorry, that isn't a real world solution. like sal said above, the free killing market is a-ok.

[Zealous Donkey 0]

you're proposing that we force a massive number of people into unsafe, underground abortion clinics. sorry, that isn't a real world solution. like sal said above, the free killing market is a-ok.

By passing any law(except immigration) we force those that want to break the law underground or motivate them to hide their criminal behavior. Lets go back to the OP. Why should anyone in this case be treated as a criminal? Explain to me the difference. We are simply talking about the location of where the act took place. Why should that be such cause for alarm.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

The issue is "what" is being done, not when it is being done. The result is the same weather it is done the first week or the 24th week, the result-- a human being's one and only chance of existence in the world is being terminated.

Every second that I don't have intercourse with a fertile woman, the human being that would have been produced from that intercourse's one and only chance at life is being terminated. If you're proposing that I have intercourse 100% of the time, I could be persuaded in favor of that public policy.

[Zealous Donkey 0]

Every second that I don't have intercourse with a fertile woman, the human being that would have been produced from that intercourse's one and only chance at life is being terminated. If you're proposing that I have intercourse 100% of the time, I could be persuaded in favor of that public policy.

LOL! Yes, this side of the issue does have its perks. While there is a chance of creating a human being from intercourse of a fertile couple, it isn't guaranteed. That is what makes the actual union of sperm and egg that much more special. For every sperm that fertilizes an egg there are millions? (I think) that didn't make it. When that one makes it we have living growing human being and I believe he/she should be protected.

[irishguy 14]

LOL! Yes, this side of the issue does have its perks. While there is a chance of creating a human being from intercourse of a fertile couple, it isn't guaranteed. That is what makes the actual union of sperm and egg that much more special. For every sperm that fertilizes an egg there are millions? (I think) that didn't make it. When that one makes it we have living growing human being and I believe he/she should be protected.

I assume you are against the day after pill but are you also against birth control?

[LongLiveYorke 38]

I assume you are against the day after pill but are you also against birth control?

Birth control is okay but the day after pill is not. See, the chemical reaction that takes place where certain protein strands mix together to form other protein strands is really significant and is the equivalent of a person complete with friends, aspirations, memories, joy, sadness, and a collection of cd's.

[Zealous Donkey 0]

I assume you are against the day after pill but are you also against birth control?

If the day after pill terminates a pregnancy then I think it should be outlawed. I am against birth control due to religious beliefs but I do not think birth control should be aginst the law. I have been trying to debate the abortion issue outside of my religious beliefs.

[irishguy 14]

Birth control is okay but the day after pill is not. See, the chemical reaction that takes place where certain protein strands mix together to form other protein strands is really significant and is the equivalent of a person complete with friends, aspirations, memories, joy, sadness, and a collection of cd's.

Awesome.

If the day after pill terminates a pregnancy then I think it should be outlawed. I am against birth control due to religious beliefs but I do not think birth control should be aginst the law. I have been trying to debate the abortion issue outside of my religious beliefs.

Was just curious. I'll give you points for being consistent.

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Birth control is okay but the day after pill is not. See, the chemical reaction that takes place where certain protein strands mix together to form other protein strands is really significant and is the equivalent of a person complete with friends, aspirations, memories, joy, sadness, and a collection of cd's.

c'mon, how many kids born today are going to have CD collections?

[Zealous Donkey 0]

Birth control is okay but the day after pill is not. See, the chemical reaction that takes place where certain protein strands mix together to form other protein strands is really significant and is the equivalent of a person complete with friends, aspirations, memories, joy, sadness, and a collection of cd's.

So a friendless, complacent 20 year old amnesiac who is not into music should be killed. Let me give it some thought you are starting to move me your way. Do you have my spell check blocked some how. My spell check doesn't work when i respond to you. I can spell check your quote but not what I type.

[JubilantLankyLad 1,957]

Do you have my spell check blocked some how. My spell check doesn't work when i respond to you. I can spell check your quote but not what I type.

awesome

[LongLiveYorke 38]

Do you have my spell check blocked some how. My spell check doesn't work when i respond to you. I can spell check your quote but not what I type.

It's all part of my plan to systematically destroy you starting with your spelling...

[Zealous Donkey 0]

awesome

Thank you for your contribution.

It's all part of my plan to systematically destroy you starting with your spelling...

Ingenious, and I am powerless to stop it. Hey! it worked this time. Stop toying with me dammit!!!

[vbnautilus 48]

LOL! Yes, this side of the issue does have its perks. While there is a chance of creating a human being from intercourse of a fertile couple, it isn't guaranteed. That is what makes the actual union of sperm and egg that much more special. For every sperm that fertilizes an egg there are millions? (I think) that didn't make it. When that one makes it we have living growing human being and I believe he/she should be protected.

The chances of a fertilized embryo surviving to birth is something like 60%. There's never any guarantee, and drawing the line at the moment of fertilization is just as arbitrary in terms of chance of becoming a human as any other point you draw. "Potential to become human" is not a discreet event, its a cascade of increasing probability from the moment two people are attracted to each other to the moment a baby pops out.

[JubilantLankyLad 1,957]

Thank you for your contribution.

you're welcome!