DinkDonk 1 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 let me solve his paradox for you. His internet has been acting up of late, so he doesn't want to play for real money and he is trying to help lower limit players with their game, not play higher limit players to help with his. I also think that he meant to say " you must post any mistakes you make", as that was the deal when he and I played heads up a couple days ago. The people I think he would refuse are random people who don't post much in the thread, like, say, a potential higher stakes opponent that wants insight into his game.Yeah, mostly this. Since I can't grind, I'm just looking to play a low stakes game that will hopefully generate discussion beneficial to both players. I actually did mean that I wanted people to post mistakes I made, both as a help to me and a discussion point if I disagreed. And the people I'd refuse action from would be people who I didn't know or didn't feel would benefit from or aid in learning. Also, I'd rather play people I know and like. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I manage to find so many interesting ways of running bad whenever I play 2/4.Finished up $30 today though, thanks entirely to bluffing. Link to post Share on other sites
Whatever 1 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I'm 1 tabling some 1/2 6 max LHE this month to help get me to goldstar. Villian is 24/17/1.8 thru 119 handsHow does this look?PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is Button with Q , Q 1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, MP callsFlop: (9.5 SB) 2 , A , 4 (3 players)BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, 1 fold, MP callsTurn: (5.75 BB) A (2 players)MP checks, Hero checksRiver: (5.75 BB) K (2 players)MP bets, Hero?Would it be weak/stupid/smart to fold there? I am certainly calling anything on the river except a king no? At 1.8 AF I would consider him somewhat passive. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 I'm 1 tabling some 1/2 6 max LHE this month to help get me to goldstar. Villian is 24/17/1.8 thru 119 handsHow does this look?PokerStars Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is Button with Q , Q 1 fold, MP raises, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, BB calls, MP callsFlop: (9.5 SB) 2 , A , 4 (3 players)BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets, 1 fold, MP callsTurn: (5.75 BB) A (2 players)MP checks, Hero checksRiver: (5.75 BB) K (2 players)MP bets, Hero?Would it be weak/stupid/smart to fold there? I am certainly calling anything on the river except a king no? At 1.8 AF I would consider him somewhat passive.edit: i missed the preflop action.if you're planning to show down if a king doesn't fall, bet the turn.as played, i think you can fold most of the time against a passive player. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 So.... I just activated HEM, and I'm looking for suggestions on how to set up my HUD, beyond the default, that is.. Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 Bet the turn here. Not betting it completely imbalances your range and polarizes your turn betting range to only Ax or air. And don't b/f the turn either, as that's incredibly exploitable. In order to merge your range and become far less exploitable, you absolutely have to be b/c with hands of this strength. As played I call the river; 1.8 isn't terribly passive and his stats suggest he has at least reasonable enough hand reading skills to value bet a worse hand or bluff since he knows you never ever have an Ace.I apologize for the poor sentences, as I'm very very tired, but the hand advice stands. Link to post Share on other sites
Whatever 1 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 No need to apologize. My fold felt weak. So if I bet the turn and he raises me I can safely fold the river right? At that point I would be looking at the pot size and still be tempted to call. Link to post Share on other sites
DinkDonk 1 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 No need to apologize. My fold felt weak. So if I bet the turn and he raises me I can safely fold the river right? At that point I would be looking at the pot size and still be tempted to call.I bet/call down as a default. Without a pretty solid read, I'm rarely deviating from that line. Link to post Share on other sites
tuckermitchell 1 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 1.8 isn't terribly passive and his stats suggest he has at least reasonable enough hand reading skills to value bet a worse hand or bluff since he knows I bet/call down as a default. Without a pretty solid read, I'm rarely deviating from that line.This... especially the point of 1.8 not being terribly passive. It's not far off from 2 which is usually a solid TAG player's range. I'd b/c that turn all day and then call down just about any river, other than a Q of course Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted January 9, 2009 Share Posted January 9, 2009 i'm not really sure where to whine about this, so here will have to do:apparently our buzzer system in my building had some issues recently, and the maintenance people have been doing some serious overkill on the testing. i was woken up at 11 (est) this morning by the first "test," and our buzzer has gone off once every five minutes for the four hours since, each time for approximately five full seconds. my cats are freaked out, i have a headache, and i'm probably going to put on pants for the first time in three days and find somewhere to go that's not here.i switched over to agg% from AF, and i don't really know what 1.8 refers to anymore, since i didn't really pay attention to stats that much when i used pt. can someone translate that to a comparable agg%? Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I haven't played poker since Monday. Kind of strange.Just brought the two kittens back from the vet today. They got fixed and declawed. Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Just brought the two kittens back from the vet today. They got fixed and declawed.True sign of a lhe player, imo. Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I don't have any stats or notes on the villain in this hand, but as soon as I saw his name and the limp/re-raise something in my memory set off warning bells. I'm thinking I've played with him before and had him tagged as fairly solid. Given that read, does anyone do anything differently in this hand?Full Tilt Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is MP1 with Q , A 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, 5 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls, BB callsFlop: (9.5 SB) 3 , 5 , Q (3 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, 1 foldTurn: (5.75 BB) 3 (2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero callsRiver: (9.75 BB) 7 (2 players)UTG+1 bets, Hero callsTotal pot: $11.75 (11.75 BB) | Rake: $0.50Results in white below: UTG+1 had A , A (two pair, Aces and threes).Hero had Q , A (two pair, Queens and threes).Outcome: UTG+1 won $11.25 Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 you guys forgot to tell me not to play tourneys on a friday. you're all assholes, and now ima suicide. Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 i'm not really sure where to whine about this, so here will have to do:apparently our buzzer system in my building had some issues recently, and the maintenance people have been doing some serious overkill on the testing. i was woken up at 11 (est) this morning by the first "test," and our buzzer has gone off once every five minutes for the four hours since, each time for approximately five full seconds. my cats are freaked out, i have a headache, and i'm probably going to put on pants for the first time in three days and find somewhere to go that's not here.i switched over to agg% from AF, and i don't really know what 1.8 refers to anymore, since i didn't really pay attention to stats that much when i used pt. can someone translate that to a comparable agg%?Thanks Checky, I was looking for a new quote for my sig. I hope your buzzer gets fixed, even though it provided me with a quotable nugget. Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I don't have any stats or notes on the villain in this hand, but as soon as I saw his name and the limp/re-raise something in my memory set off warning bells. I'm thinking I've played with him before and had him tagged as fairly solid. Given that read, does anyone do anything differently in this hand?Full Tilt Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is MP1 with Q , A 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, 5 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls, BB callsFlop: (9.5 SB) 3 , 5 , Q (3 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, 1 foldTurn: (5.75 BB) 3 (2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero callsRiver: (9.75 BB) 7 (2 players)UTG+1 bets, Hero callsTotal pot: $11.75 (11.75 BB) | Rake: $0.50Results in white below: UTG+1 had A , A (two pair, Aces and threes).Hero had Q , A (two pair, Queens and threes).Outcome: UTG+1 won $11.25 When is the utg limp/raise not AA in fr? I'd play it the same I think. Link to post Share on other sites
Flushgarden 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 you guys forgot to tell me not to play tourneys on a friday. you're all assholes, and now ima suicide.I just stone bubbled 2 of them after having a giant stack in each. They are heartbrake.Somebody at one of my lhe tables just said this to me:RIPTIDERULE: DAN YOU RAISE EVERY HAND AND WIN NOTHING Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinciKid 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 When is the utg limp/raise not AA in fr? I'd play it the same I think.I have actually seen this done with like 88 or something once, but yeah it's pretty much always AA. I feel like I should have checked behind on the turn, but I guess there's not really much I CAN do in a spot like this. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I just stone bubbled 2 of them after having a giant stack in each. They are heartbrake.Somebody at one of my lhe tables just said this to me:RIPTIDERULE: DAN YOU RAISE EVERY HAND AND WIN NOTHINGi have figured out how to win tourneys on friday since my post. make the nuts, shove for 8x pot, and get INSTASNAPHELLMUTHCALLED by tpnk. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 Thanks Checky, I was looking for a new quote for my sig. I hope your buzzer gets fixed, even though it provided me with a quotable nugget.yw I have actually seen this done with like 88 or something once, but yeah it's pretty much always AA. I feel like I should have checked behind on the turn, but I guess there's not really much I CAN do in a spot like this.actually i've seen it more from mid pps than aa. Link to post Share on other sites
Dirtydutch 8 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 True sign of a lhe player, imo.Seriously wtf? We are just a kitten-loving people. I wonder what the relation is. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 When is the utg limp/raise not AA in fr? I'd play it the same I think.when its somebody who does it all the time so they balance it with other hands also. Link to post Share on other sites
tuckermitchell 1 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 I don't have any stats or notes on the villain in this hand, but as soon as I saw his name and the limp/re-raise something in my memory set off warning bells. I'm thinking I've played with him before and had him tagged as fairly solid. Given that read, does anyone do anything differently in this hand?Full Tilt Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comPreflop: Hero is MP1 with Q , A 1 fold, UTG+1 calls, Hero raises, 5 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 3-bets, Hero calls, BB callsFlop: (9.5 SB) 3 , 5 , Q (3 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets, Hero calls, 1 foldTurn: (5.75 BB) 3 (2 players)UTG+1 checks, Hero bets, UTG+1 raises, Hero callsRiver: (9.75 BB) 7 (2 players)UTG+1 bets, Hero callsTotal pot: $11.75 (11.75 BB) | Rake: $0.50Results in white below: UTG+1 had A , A (two pair, Aces and threes).Hero had Q , A (two pair, Queens and threes).Outcome: UTG+1 won $11.25 Without reading other comments, I play this the same. He shows up with 88-JJ, AK and possible 66 and AJ here often at .50/1 imoedit: once again I'm effed because I realize this is FR. I am dumb. Link to post Share on other sites
checkymcfold 0 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 actually, having just looked at the HH and not just the l/rr discussion, i think it's a pretty clear fold. i pretty much have to see someone bet, c/r bluff in order to think it's possible. i think bet/folding the turn is correct, and i know you're all going to yell at me for it . Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted January 10, 2009 Share Posted January 10, 2009 so... has anyone else seen Synecdoche, New York? Because it's pretty much the weirdest movie I've ever seen. Wow, my mind is good and fcked. Link to post Share on other sites
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