digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 The stats dont matter..I have seen him play a lot and he looks like he will be a player...and even 45 points would be good for someone we got for nothing from the hated Habs...Its tough to teach speed and raw offensive talent.Gainey is going to be sorry about this one.Grabovski will get top 6 minutes in Toronto and put up 40-45 points. In Montreal he would have absolutely no chance of seeing top 6 minutes. Montreal's depth is far better than Toronto's. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Mark Bell apparently on waivers.. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 6, 2008 Author Share Posted October 6, 2008 Please read the thread before posting...at least two posts before yours. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 Please read the thread before posting...at least two posts before yours.I'm just so stunned by the turn of events the news didn't sink in Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I guess Bell was playing a little too well and didn't fit the (tanking) plan. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted October 6, 2008 Share Posted October 6, 2008 I guess Bell was playing a little too well and didn't fit the (tanking) plan.lolaments Link to post Share on other sites
Derswick 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 lolamentsMaybe they should pick up Gerber to solidify their finish. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Maybe they should pick up Gerber to solidify their finish.You know, if you are going to do a drive-by snipe try something witty like Gerbatross. Link to post Share on other sites
Ottawa_Biatch 288 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Schenn is going to make the team according to Jennifer Hedger Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Schenn is going to make the team according to Jennifer Hedgeryes this has been out all day..we are happy Link to post Share on other sites
WestcoastCanuck 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 yes this has been out all day..we are happySchenn is a terrific player. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I don't agree with keeping him up past 9 games... not that he might not play well enough to deserve it; rather it's year 1 of the gut/rebuild. Might be better to hang on to him in a few years to stack as many studs as possible. Link to post Share on other sites
Derswick 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 You know, if you are going to do a drive-by snipe try something witty like Gerbatross.Sorry couldn't help myself after Saturday's preformance. Ault may be able to carry them anyway. Unlike in Vancouver the Sens could win by outscoring the opposition if you know what i mean. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I don't agree with keeping him up past 9 games... not that he might not play well enough to deserve it; rather it's year 1 of the gut/rebuild. Might be better to hang on to him in a few years to stack as many studs as possible.I'll be very surprised if he stays up past the 9-game mark. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 just signed a 3 year deal...Schenn is awesome. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Leafs To Be NHL's Worst Team In 2008-09October 6, 2008, 9:24 PM ET [223 Comments]by Howard Berger TORONTO (Oct. 6) – Prior to watching the Maple Leafs during their nine-game exhibition schedule, I had been slightly wavering about where they could fit among the NHL’s bottom- feeders this season. But, there is no longer any question.Hold onto your hats, Leafs Nation. For the first time in 24 years, the Blue & White will be looking up at the rest of the league when the regular season ends on Apr. 12th. Not since 1984-85 have the Leafs finished dead-last in the NHL, but the plan by management this summer to scale back in the interests of ultimately moving forward will bear spectacular results.And, nothing could be more beneficial for the long-term welfare of the franchise.The Leafs will place 30th among 30 teams and the only question to be answered is whether they will break the post-lockout record for fewest points in a season. The Philadelphia Flyers hold that distinction with a 56-point showing in 2006-07. In fact, that remains the fewest number of points accrued by any team since Atlanta had 54 in 2001-02. Coincidentally or not, the Leafs 2-5-2 exhibition mark this autumn places the club on a collision course with Philadelphia’s dubious honor of two years ago. Multiplying the Leafs’ preseason effort over 82 games results in a record of 18-45-19 for 55 points. That is a colossal 16 points less than the worst team in the NHL last season. Tampa Bay brought up the rear with 71 points and won the draft lottery.Could the 2008-09 Maple Leaf bottom out to that degree? Absolutely.Will they bottom out to that degree? Maybe not.Goaltending and an improved defensive posture under new coach Ron Wilson might enable the Leafs to approach Tampa’s accumulation of a year ago. But, after further consideration, I’m not certain that 70 points is attainable [as I suggested in my previous blog]. Toronto should, however, partake in a ferocious, season-long battle with the Islanders, Atlanta and Los Angeles to see which team actually finishes in 30th spot. As such, the immediate future of the franchise will be largely dependent on nine games this season – four with the Islanders [Dec. 8th, Dec. 26th, Feb. 26th, Mar. 10th]; four with Atlanta [Nov. 25th, Dec. 22nd, Dec. 30th, Jan. 16th], and the lone meeting with the Kings, Dec. 1st, at the Staples Center. If the Leafs can limit their accumulation to no more than seven or eight out of 18 points during these games [a very real possibility], either John Tavares or Victor Hedman will almost certainly be theirs next June 26th in Montreal. And, the club will finally be heading in the proper direction.This has been the plan ever since Cliff Fletcher assumed the managerial reigns from John Ferguson last January. It has become increasingly difficult to dissuade followers of the Maple Leafs through the years, as a crack over the head with a mallet wouldn’t be sufficient to cloud the rose-colored glasses indigenous to this tribe. In modern professional sport, only fans of the Chicago Cubs are comparable among those willing to absorb infinite punishment. As with the Cubs, force of habit and gullibility have been the Maple Leafs’ greatest allies.But, Fletcher, ever the diplomat and keenly aware of the unshakeable love for his team, has refrained from offering to the public his most portentous thoughts – choosing, instead, to say things like “We hope to be better in December than we are today, and better in February than we are in December.”Fletcher’s actions of the past nine months, however, speak louder than his conciliatory words. He finds himself in the most envious position of any GM in the history of the club. His lucrative contract, at post-retirement age 73, expires next August, prior to the 2009-10 NHL season, and he therefore has almost no burden to engender an improved product on his watch. It is the complete antithesis of the crushing strain felt on a minute-to-minute basis by Ferguson, whose inexperience and obligation to a meddling board produced a bevy of ruinous decisions. Fletcher, conversely, has the abetment required to put into action a formula consistent with the post-lockout model in the NHL. And, it has long been evident that the up-coming season is not at all beholden to that blueprint.Without the presence of Mats Sundin to make a dreadful club just terrible, the Leafs will finally slide, unconstrained, to the depths of the 30-team league. For at least one year, it seems as if the ownership pyramid at Maple Leaf Sports & Entertainment is willing not to encumber its hockey department with guidance and brainpower – the sort that has positioned the club, in recent years, to scramble for the eighth and final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference. Condominium sales being what they are, MLSE hasn’t even budgeted for playoff dates next spring at the Air Canada Centre. Given the Leafs’ immediate potential, of course, that’s the rough equivalent of department stores in the Bahamas refusing to budget for parkas.This is going to be – by design – a long, difficult season for the Maple Leafs; more so for their legion of supporters, who won’t have much to cheer about unless they keep one eye focused on the future. The process followed by the club in recent years couldn’t have been more damaging. The Leafs had neither the capacity to qualify for the playoffs, nor the foresight to understand that wallowing on the fringe of contention was the worst possible strategy. As such, we get the actions of this past summer, when the GM runs off almost all of the club’s best [yet overpaid, underachieving] players, and replaces them with younger, bargain-priced commodities, mostly devoid of pedigree.What it amounts to is a club that will score among the least number of goals in the NHL, and will easily threaten Philadelphia’s post-lockout standard of fewest points in a season if Vesa Toskala spends any length of time on the injury list. Off the ice, the Leafs’ biggest challenge will be tolerating another brutal season in one of the NHL’s most intense markets. And, undoubtedly, dealing with mixed signals from a disillusioned public. I’m still amazed by the number of Leaf fans that write and tell me they’ll be pleased if the club “overachieves” this season and contends for a playoff spot; as if the folly of the past three seasons hasn’t even registered.The only way up for the hockey club right now is down.That’s why you can be sure that less is more for the Maple Leafs in 2008-09.~source Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 I actually read this in the morning while I was in the washroom...Its so stupid..Howard has gone from being bad to pathetic in his quest to put the Leafs down..I am about to send him an email that I will cross post in here..****ing weasel he is..BTWJust waived Kronwall and Devereaux..Roster is set for opening night. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 They will finish last. Then they will lose the lottery.Just the luck of being a hockey fan in Toronto.Even when things look good, the organization figures out a way to mess things up. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 They will finish last. Then they will lose the lottery.Just the luck of being a hockey fan in Toronto.Even when things look good, the organization figures out a way to mess things up.There is a great blog on hockeybuzz today where it talks about the conspiracy the NHL has .good readhttp://my.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=...p;user_id=44323 Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Here is my response to Howard on his blog today..I just sent him this email, if he responds I will post it.Hi Howard, I have been a fan of yours for the last 15 years as you have done a great job following the Leafs. I respect your work on the FAN and I read your blogs religiously. However recently it seems like you have some sort of agenda against MLSE and the Toronto Maple Leafs. Every blog it seems like you are putting down the team and everything you write and talk about on the radio has a cynical angle on how the bad the Leafs are going to be. I consider myself a lifelong die hard Leafs fan growing up in the Ballard era, my grandfather used to take me to the Gardens and we use to watch about 10 games a year sitting in the Greys. I grew up idolizing Rick Vaive and listened and watch every game I could. I love this team as a family member and I am sure there are 1000s like me in the city and beyond. I just want to preface what I am going to say that my comments are not directed at you personally but at the media in general. My theory is the media is responsible for the fact that the Leafs haven’t won a cup in 41 years and it’s the medias fault that a lot of things that have gone wrong. Again please don’t take it personally as I feel the whole Toronto media is responsible and not just yourself. From the time the media glorified a couple of mistakes Larry Murphy made and ran him out of town(to two Stanley cups in Detroit ) to the recent banishment of Bryan McCabe. Management has been forced to make moves that have not been beneficial to the clubs success by bowing to fan pressure, due to the medias blowing up of certain incidents. The irresponsible reporting of that trash newspaper the Toronto Sun is a huge culprit in this situation. When Bryan McCabe’s own goal gets full front page exposure it shows how irresponsible journalists are in this city. It has become a sport and hobby to bash the Toronto Maple Leafs. I am tired of hearing 41 years of futility , no one ever talks about that over a 10 year period we made the Semifinals on 4 occasions and I don’t need to remind you Howard , if it wasn’t for a certain referee famous for his big hair , the Leafs probably would of won a cup in 1993. After reading todays blog where you basically said the Leafs are the worst team in the NHL, I was motivated to write to you. The Leafs may not compete for a cup, however why cant you write about the positives. Like the camp that Schenn had and how good Grabovsky has looked, or how about focusing on the positives and not multiply every negative a 1000 percent. This team will not finish last Howard , I assure you that. Howard I am not sure where the angle is coming from, if its from management or is it the fact that negative stuff sells more papers and gets more listeners, I just hope it stops and we can get some positive energy in this city and finally make a run at a few cups. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
TheDaveyG 6 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 There is a great blog on hockeybuzz today where it talks about the conspiracy the NHL has .good readhttp://my.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=...p;user_id=44323 That was the dumbest thing I've ever read. What point was he trying to make? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Here is Howard Berger responding to my email...I sent it at 4.38pm his response came at 5.11pmSerge: The problem is you are so devoted to the Leafs, you completely skip over any balance in my columns. You aren't the only one, so don't take it personally. But, I invite you to carefully re-read my last four blogs and tell me there is no mention of anything promising for the Leafs. I think you'll be surprised.Otherwise, I think one of the reasns [perhaps reluctantly] that you read my blogs is that you know you won't get any sugar-coating. There's lots of fan-boy stuff regarding the Leafs on the Internet, including on HockeyBuzz. You'll never have a shortage of that. I write my blogs the way I cover the team, and I think you appreciate that.E-mail me anytime,Howard B. Link to post Share on other sites
WestcoastCanuck 0 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Monkey, I'm sure the authors of the articles you post would appreciate it if you just linked to the article, instead of posting the entire thing here. Not trying to be a douche, just pointing it out. Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Monkey, I'm sure the authors of the articles you post would appreciate it if you just linked to the article, instead of posting the entire thing here. Not trying to be a douche, just pointing it out.he did source it at the bottom. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 he did source it at the bottom.Just curious if Howard answers all his emails, or just from Superfan Serge so quickly.Why dont you guys try emailing him, with legitimate questions of course Link to post Share on other sites
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