king1305 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 This is true. I run awful at HU but maybe we can play each other at a 6-max table.And then we can triple post about it!! Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 And then we can triple post about it!!I hate you. Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I hate you. <3 Link to post Share on other sites
rocketpoker828 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 How can I get the most value from this hand? I cbet a ton, so I thought checking the turn would get me a bet. I think the turn c/r is not right, as it looks super strong. Sorry for not converting, in the middle of playing.Full Tilt Poker Game #7322109814: Table Bingham (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:47:29 ET - 2008/07/21Seat 1: Byronson ($34.55)Seat 2: Rat The Cat ($29.30)Seat 3: s-dubya ($25.95)Seat 4: Rocketpoker828 ($34.75)Seat 5: TU_TypeS ($32.15)Seat 6: dlingdling ($25.70)Byronson posts the small blind of $0.10Rat The Cat posts the big blind of $0.25The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Rocketpoker828 [7h 7c]s-dubya foldsRocketpoker828 has 15 seconds left to actRocketpoker828 raises to $0.85TU_TypeS foldsdlingdling calls $0.85Byronson foldsRat The Cat folds*** FLOP *** [6s 2c 7d]Rocketpoker828 bets $1.25dlingdling calls $1.25*** TURN *** [6s 2c 7d] [Kc]Rocketpoker828 checksdlingdling bets $3.70Rocketpoker828 has 15 seconds left to actRocketpoker828 raises to $9.30dlingdling has 15 seconds left to actdlingdling adds $5.10dlingdling foldsUncalled bet of $5.60 returned to Rocketpoker828Rocketpoker828 mucksRocketpoker828 wins the pot ($11.40) Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 PWNED.http://www.pokerhand.org/?2927718 Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 How can I get the most value from this hand? I cbet a ton, so I thought checking the turn would get me a bet. I think the turn c/r is not right, as it looks super strong. Sorry for not converting, in the middle of playing.Full Tilt Poker Game #7322109814: Table Bingham (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:47:29 ET - 2008/07/21Seat 1: Byronson ($34.55)Seat 2: Rat The Cat ($29.30)Seat 3: s-dubya ($25.95)Seat 4: Rocketpoker828 ($34.75)Seat 5: TU_TypeS ($32.15)Seat 6: dlingdling ($25.70)Byronson posts the small blind of $0.10Rat The Cat posts the big blind of $0.25The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Rocketpoker828 [7h 7c]s-dubya foldsRocketpoker828 has 15 seconds left to actRocketpoker828 raises to $0.85TU_TypeS foldsdlingdling calls $0.85Byronson foldsRat The Cat folds*** FLOP *** [6s 2c 7d]Rocketpoker828 bets $1.25dlingdling calls $1.25*** TURN *** [6s 2c 7d] [Kc]Rocketpoker828 checksdlingdling bets $3.70Rocketpoker828 has 15 seconds left to actRocketpoker828 raises to $9.30dlingdling has 15 seconds left to actdlingdling adds $5.10dlingdling foldsUncalled bet of $5.60 returned to Rocketpoker828Rocketpoker828 mucksRocketpoker828 wins the pot ($11.40)Do you barrel this turn as a bluff often? I do. So I continue firing turn. I doubt players at this level are that sophisticated that you need to balance your range, so I don't hate the way you played it. Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 How can I get the most value from this hand? I cbet a ton, so I thought checking the turn would get me a bet. I think the turn c/r is not right, as it looks super strong. Sorry for not converting, in the middle of playing.Full Tilt Poker Game #7322109814: Table Bingham (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:47:29 ET - 2008/07/21Seat 1: Byronson ($34.55)Seat 2: Rat The Cat ($29.30)Seat 3: s-dubya ($25.95)Seat 4: Rocketpoker828 ($34.75)Seat 5: TU_TypeS ($32.15)Seat 6: dlingdling ($25.70)Byronson posts the small blind of $0.10Rat The Cat posts the big blind of $0.25The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Rocketpoker828 [7h 7c]s-dubya foldsRocketpoker828 has 15 seconds left to actRocketpoker828 raises to $0.85TU_TypeS foldsdlingdling calls $0.85Byronson foldsRat The Cat folds*** FLOP *** [6s 2c 7d]Rocketpoker828 bets $1.25dlingdling calls $1.25*** TURN *** [6s 2c 7d] [Kc]Rocketpoker828 checksdlingdling bets $3.70Rocketpoker828 has 15 seconds left to actRocketpoker828 raises to $9.30dlingdling has 15 seconds left to actdlingdling adds $5.10dlingdling foldsUncalled bet of $5.60 returned to Rocketpoker828Rocketpoker828 mucksRocketpoker828 wins the pot ($11.40)dlingdling is a poster here, i believe?I don't mind flatting the turn here and then donking the river for value Link to post Share on other sites
rocketpoker828 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 dlingdling is a poster here, i believe?yeah, that factored into my mind, as someone who is a poster at a poker forum is more likely to float and make a play on the turn. I think your line of calling then donking is probably the best. Link to post Share on other sites
mln_falcon 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 *Agrees*It sounds daft, but for all the 'Just play ABC poker' you read it ain't that easy.Is there anyone on here that's made a profit from 10NL over a good sample? I know there's a few of us struggling with it and maybe all it'd take is a rail or 2 from someone who can consistently beat it to sort us outI have at stars, not at Tilt. pretty much...This year I've played 111,234 hands at 6max 10NL. It's not surprisingly complex. It's horrifyingly bad. There's just no way to put anybody on a hand because people will almost literally play any two. What you're reading as complex play is 9 times out of 10 just a donk getting lucky or a donk thinking they're getting tricky and you paying them off anyway. Basically, if the 75/10 is suddenly putting a lot of money into the pot on the turn or river, your top pair is beat for sure and two pair is probably beat. It took me a very long time to understand this. I never beat 10NL for a great winrate but rakeback makes a huge difference especially at 10NL with the double rake. I challenge any of you playing 10NL to play for a few days at no more than 18/15 and fold to aggression any time you only have one pair and see what happens. Rarely call preflop and rarely call a river bet. I was playing 10NL as recently as April. I'm playing 50NL now. It can be done. Here's a link to the page where the light bulb starts to come on again. Good discussion that goes on for a few pages.http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...31&st=17400 ... this. The biggest thing is to raise pre, cbet every flop, and give up when raised and you have nothing. The real skill comes in working out what they have when they just call. but I reckon the majority of my money came from raiseing and c-betting, the games are just so straight forward, and you leveling yourself if you think otherwise (it's ok I do it a lot myself)Folding when you know you are beat, ainec.MarkAnd this is also really important, and also why my downswing this month has been much worse that it should've been. I've lost hands to suckout, but hteres been a lot of bad dalls, and a lot of bad bluffs. seriously nl10 is so easy, any aggression (except from aggrotards, but there are much less than you think) and I'm dumping most one pair hands. And if I'm not, I'm trying to play a small pot (like with maybe tptk, or an overpair)So, on Monday January 21, 2008, I gave up playing 6m and decided to dedicate myself to HU only.6 months later:I think I'll be switching to mostly HU, my new computer is not going to be anyhwere near as nice as my old one, because I'll I don't have as much money. I'll actually probably get and eeepc, so multitabling will mostly be out, So I'll probably be forced to just play two tables of HU, or one HU one 6max. What's your rakeback like, I'm not as desperate to get to Supernova now, because I've decided to buy a really cheap motorcycle for like a Grand, rather than a good one, so I don't need concierge as bad, but Supernova would be nice still. I don't know if you know, but is it possible to earn enough VPPs to make supernova, based of the amount of rakeback you earn at Tilt? Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 yeah, that factored into my mind, as someone who is a poster at a poker forum is more likely to float and make a play on the turn. I think your line of calling then donking is probably the best.If you feel he fires the river a lot here you could go for the CRAI too, but I would need a very strong read that villain is going to bet the river. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Brag: I've played less hands this year than Acid Knight and I'm a proBeat: I'm behind in online moniesVariance: Live poker :)Mark Link to post Share on other sites
rocketpoker828 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I flatted the flop minraise because I wanted to get it in on a safe turn. Thoughts? (Probably should have folded on the end, but folding AA is tough.)Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)SB ($29.65)BB ($12.95)UTG ($26.10)Hero ($26.75)Button ($32.85)Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A. 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, BB calls $0.60.Flop: ($2.55) T, 3, 2(3 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, SB raises to $3.5, BB folds, Hero calls $1.75.Turn: ($9.55) Q(2 players)SB checks, Hero checks.River: ($9.55) J(2 players)SB bets $5, Hero calls $5.Final Pot: $19.55Results in white below: SB has 6s 7s (flush, queen high). Hero has Ad Ah (one pair, aces). Outcome: SB wins $19.55. Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Brag: I've played less hands this year than Acid Knight and I'm a proBeat: I'm behind in online moniesVariance: Live poker :)Markmark's my official motivation btw as much as i give him crap out of nowhere.i'm still at work tieing out schedules and he probably spent the day at the freaking zoo or something and will still make more money this week than me. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 How can I get the most value from this hand? I cbet a ton, so I thought checking the turn would get me a bet. I think the turn c/r is not right, as it looks super strong. Sorry for not converting, in the middle of playing.Full Tilt Poker Game #7322109814: Table Bingham (6 max) - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:47:29 ET - 2008/07/21Seat 1: Byronson ($34.55)Seat 2: Rat The Cat ($29.30)Seat 3: s-dubya ($25.95)Seat 4: Rocketpoker828 ($34.75)Seat 5: TU_TypeS ($32.15)Seat 6: dlingdling ($25.70)Byronson posts the small blind of $0.10Rat The Cat posts the big blind of $0.25The button is in seat #6*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Rocketpoker828 [7h 7c]s-dubya foldsRocketpoker828 has 15 seconds left to actRocketpoker828 raises to $0.85TU_TypeS foldsdlingdling calls $0.85Byronson foldsRat The Cat folds*** FLOP *** [6s 2c 7d]Rocketpoker828 bets $1.25dlingdling calls $1.25*** TURN *** [6s 2c 7d] [Kc]Rocketpoker828 checksdlingdling bets $3.70Rocketpoker828 has 15 seconds left to actRocketpoker828 raises to $9.30dlingdling has 15 seconds left to actdlingdling adds $5.10dlingdling foldsUncalled bet of $5.60 returned to Rocketpoker828Rocketpoker828 mucksRocketpoker828 wins the pot ($11.40)One piece of advice I have is to convert your hands. They are much easier to read, give more details and will get you better advice (there are so many hands in here I rarely look at unconverted hands unless something is bolded and I know someone chatboxed a call). Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 So I just scanned through the last 3 days, what I miss?Edit: Also, Mario Kart is the shit. Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Standard vs a 31/23/4?These situations give me a lot of trouble as I rarely know where I am the whole way...Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero ($33.65)Button ($27.70)SB ($25.10)BB ($24.25)UTG ($66.45)MP ($25)Preflop: Hero is CO with T, T. 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 2 folds, BB raises to $2.65, Hero calls $1.80.Flop: ($5.40) 4, J, 9(3 players)BB bets $3.5, Hero calls $3.50.Turn: ($12.40) 5(3 players)BB bets $8.25, Hero calls $8.25.River: ($28.90) 7(3 players)BB bets $9.85 (All-In), Hero calls $9.85.Final Pot: $48.60 Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Brag: I've played less hands this year than Acid Knight and I'm a proBeat: I'm behind in online moniesVariance: Live poker :)MarkKeep in mind that $18k of that is Jordan's money. Link to post Share on other sites
TeeSludge 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 What's your rakeback like, I'm not as desperate to get to Supernova now, because I've decided to buy a really cheap motorcycle for like a Grand, rather than a good one, so I don't need concierge as bad, but Supernova would be nice still. I don't know if you know, but is it possible to earn enough VPPs to make supernova, based of the amount of rakeback you earn at Tilt?Rakeback for HU is pretty minimal because its .50 cap on rake plus a lot of hands are raise and take it pre. I don't know how VPP's work in comparison to rakeback but if I play like 20k hands of HU in a month on Tilt I get like $500 in rakeback. Link to post Share on other sites
yourboygsarida 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 congrats acid that is legit. ive been focusing on pl08/nl08 so havent been posting much. got my bonus and rakeback verryyy verrrry nice. prob gonna not play a lot of poker the next month, i really need to kick in the training for futbol and working full time before i go back to school drains a lot of my time. continued success to you all, and rocket get AI with aa on that flop, too many people are stacking off with 10x/fd for you not to. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 5 Members: cwik, matchstix, Metternich, Acid_Knight, SnamuhStay out of this thread, troll. Link to post Share on other sites
Naismith 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I miss the days when Acid tried to play 6-max and would constantly shovel four buyins trying to push someone off the second nut straight and get mad because he was obviously repping the nuts. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I miss the days when Acid tried to play 6-max and would constantly shovel four buyins trying to push someone off the second nut straight and get mad because he was obviously repping the nuts. I think I'd mostly get mad when I was repping the nuts and they were calling with 4th pair, that they turned.God I hated 6-max. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I flatted the flop minraise because I wanted to get it in on a safe turn. Thoughts? (Probably should have folded on the end, but folding AA is tough.)Don't wait for safe cards in NLHE, that's for PLO. Also, it's not like it's a super draw heavy board like JT7 with a flush draw. Oh, and have the Ace of Spades next time you want to not reraise that flop.Oh yeah, always reraise the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
cwik 0 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I think I'd mostly get mad when I was repping the nuts and they were calling with 4th pair, that they turned.God I hated 6-max.yeah HU is way better where no one can ever rep anything. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 yeah HU is way better where no one can ever rep anything. That's why I just blindly fling money into the pots until they fold.My green line is proof that this works (unless they call, see blue line for details) Link to post Share on other sites
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