chrozzo 19 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 You live in New York. Come out to the real world. You will learn.godammit, i get hypnotized by that avatar EVERYTIME!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
scram 1 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 so i've never shot a gun in my life...Wow. Stop the presses. What a shocker....and would like to. where would i go for this sort of thing? would i look up a shooting range in the phone book and give them a call? is that like a normal thing they do, have classes about this sort of thing?In New York City, you're basically ****ed. That right has been taken away from you. Hope you feel "safe" because of it. But hey, look on the bright side. Even though that option isn't open to you, at least you don't have anything to be "paranoid" about. Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Since you mentioned the song might as well mention the authorlong overdue fyp Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 thats a really neat way to get yourself either shot or into a whole lot of trouble. im all for people having guns and whatnot, but stuff like this is just crazy. have you considered the consequences for shooting someone? you do realize you can kill them right? you are going to take somebody's life becouse they rob you for $50 and some pizza? no i'm going to take somebody's life because they would most likely take my life for that $50now this kind of scares me. not becouse you hear that somebody got pulled over and ran from the cops in your neighborhood and get scared and run for your gun. no, that kind of paranoia is just sad. it's not paranoia, it's heightened awareness what scares me is that you seem geniunly excited about the prospect of getting to use your gun to shoot somebody. no, we're satisfied with being able to balance the scales and refusing to be victimsexactly. you really think you need to own a gun to feel safe? no, but it sure helps i've lived in new york city for 24 years and i've had a gun pulled on me once, and you know what? i was probably asking for it. way to go douchebag, if you deserve it i'll pull my gun on you too with your "slight heroin problem if I think your a junkie coming after me. if you want to decrease your likelihood of dying stop smoking and eating like a pig and maybe go for a walk once in a while. and if you want to keep your kids safe, you can try making them do this too. want to decrease your likelihood of dying? stop trying to confront legal gun ownersagain, don't get me wrong. i think that people should be able to own guns. i think its 100% necessary that people be allowed to own guns. but sheesh, you sure are an awfully paranoid lot. it's not paranoia when people are really out to get you or see above--------sorry to hijack your thread hank. ill try to contribute something a little more on topic. so i've never shot a gun in my life and would like to. where would i go for this sort of thing? would i look up a shooting range in the phone book and give them a call? is that like a normal thing they do, have classes about this sort of thing?well, if you really are interested in learning to shoot, it's most likely going to be difficult in NYC. First, find a class or something to learn how to safely handle firearms. Every pro gun person in this thread will tell you they're not toys and we don't view them as such. As much as we talk about how good a gun looks or how good it feels in the hand, we all understand the incredible responsibility that comes with owning a gun. So if you really want to devote some time, effort, and money into learning how to shoot safely and responsibly, well good for you and welcome to the fold. Now go do the work.I would highly suggest that whether you start out with a rifle or pistol you start with a .22. They're cheap to shoot and easy to handle. With a .22 you can quickly gain a grasp of the fundamentals of good shooting and it will translate to higher caliber weapons. The basics for all firearms are the same.BreathingPatienceControlGood luck, and I hope you give it a fair chance. Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 In New York City, you're basically ****ed. That right has been taken away from you. Hope you feel "safe" because of it. But hey, look on the bright side. Even though that option isn't open to you, at least you don't have anything to be "paranoid" about.I think that not having a gun in NYC really doesn't hinder how protected you are. I understand the logic of wanting a gun if you live in a rural area miles away from anything else. In this city, at least, I think you'd do fine without a gun.I've only fired a gun once in my life. It was at a police station firing range with whatever standard gun the cops there used. It was pretty fun, I guess. I'd do it again. I used to be really into guns, especially the history of them. For some reason I was fascinated by the developmental history of weapons and firearms. I don't own any and I don't foresee myself ever owning any. In the city, I think a deadbolt gives me a million more times the protection of a handgun. But, maybe some day I'll wonder over to a range and have some fun. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Wow. Stop the presses. What a shocker.In New York City, you're basically ****ed. That right has been taken away from you. Hope you feel "safe" because of it. But hey, look on the bright side. Even though that option isn't open to you, at least you don't have anything to be "paranoid" about.why would i feel safer because of that? if i am going to end up getting shot most likely it would be from a gun that wasn't purchased legally. i think you misunderstood me. whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 I think that not having a gun in NYC really doesn't hinder how protected you are. I understand the logic of wanting a gun if you live in a rural area miles away from anything else. In this city, at least, I think you'd do fine without a gun.I've only fired a gun once in my life. It was at a police station firing range with whatever standard gun the cops there used. It was pretty fun, I guess. I'd do it again. I used to be really into guns, especially the history of them. For some reason I was fascinated by the developmental history of weapons and firearms. I don't own any and I don't foresee myself ever owning any. In the city, I think a deadbolt gives me a million more times the protection of a handgun. But, maybe some day I'll wonder over to a range and have some fun.You're comparing apples and oranges. One is a passive defense tool while the other is active defense. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 why would i feel safer because of that? if i am going to end up getting shot most likely it would be from a gun that wasn't purchased legally. i think you misunderstood me. whatever.That's kind of the point. When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. Just because it's a cliche doesn't mean it's not true.NOW STOP DEBATING THE +/- OF GUNS IN THIS THREAD Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 why would i feel safer because of that? if i am going to end up getting shot most likely it would be from a gun that wasn't purchased legally. i think you misunderstood me. whatever.DING DING DING!!!!Winner. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 chrozzo, i applaud your choice. for the simple fact that you took the time and effort to do it LEGALLY.Hope you never have to use it brother. Link to post Share on other sites
Napa_Don 688 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 That's kind of the point. When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. Just because it's a cliche doesn't mean it's not true.NOW STOP DEBATING THE +/- OF GUNS IN THIS THREAD I've got a 12 gauge Sears & Roebuck that my great uncle gave to me and then a Remington .22 long rifle that he also gave to me. For now those are the only guns I own, but I'm only 20. When I get older I hope to expand this collection into a few high powered rifles and some sort of pistol. My friend had a 9 mm pistol that he would bring out to my farm to shoot and he let me shoot it obv. It's so much fun to shoot pistols. I know my shotgun is pretty old and not the greatest brand but it's got sentimental value. I pretty much just use it for pheasant hunting and trap shooting. Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 That's kind of the point. When guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns. Just because it's a cliche doesn't mean it's not true.NOW STOP DEBATING THE +/- OF GUNS IN THIS THREAD lol. I AGREE. anyway.i found this place a few blocks from where i work. the fee is only $50 i think im gonna go down after work one day this week and try it out. its exactly what you suggested which is a .22 riffle. a quick google and several places in nyc came up actually, i figured i'd have to go to long island or jersey. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 I've got a 12 gauge Sears & Roebuck that my great uncle gave to me and then a Remington .22 long rifle that he also gave to me. For now those are the only guns I own, but I'm only 20. When I get older I hope to expand this collection into a few high powered rifles and some sort of pistol. My friend had a 9 mm pistol that he would bring out to my farm to shoot and he let me shoot it obv. It's so much fun to shoot pistols. I know my shotgun is pretty old and not the greatest brand but it's got sentimental value. I pretty much just use it for pheasant hunting and trap shooting.There's nothing wrong with hanging on to a "less than great" gun. As long as it does what it's supposed to do, fine. Throw in sentimental value on top and it's worth more than it is on paper by far. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 chrozzo, i applaud your choice. for the simple fact that you took the time and effort to do it LEGALLY.Hope you never have to use it brother.same here bro...but its nice to feel in your waist somtimes, for sure Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 lol. I AGREE. anyway.i found this place a few blocks from where i work. the fee is only $50 i think im gonna go down after work one day this week and try it out. its exactly what you suggested which is a .22 riffle. a quick google and several places in nyc came up actually, i figured i'd have to go to long island or jersey.good for you anti. Just remember, everything you've seen in movies is BULLSHIT. Take it seriously, respect it, don't half-ass it and you'll enjoy the hell out of it.-editThat's not a bad price at all. i suggest you check it out. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 chrozzo, i applaud your choice. for the simple fact that you took the time and effort to do it LEGALLY.Hope you never have to use it brother.I applaud his choice to defend himself if it proves necessary, but he could do a lot better on the choice of carry weapon IMO. A .38 snubbie is a terrible defense weapon. It's 50x as terrible in the hands of someone who doesn't practice with it very often, if ever, you'd be lucky to hit a tree from 10 feet away. Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 I applaud his choice to defend himself if it proves necessary, but he could do a lot better on the choice of carry weapon IMO. A .38 snubbie is a terrible defense weapon. It's 50x as terrible in the hands of someone who doesn't practice with it very often, if ever, you'd be lucky to hit a tree from 10 feet away.good point. i wasn't applauding the choice of weapon. i was applauding the choice and the method. the only way i'd carry a snub .38 is as a drop piece (which i'd never do because that would be unethical). Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 I applaud his choice to defend himself if it proves necessary, but he could do a lot better on the choice of carry weapon IMO. A .38 snubbie is a terrible defense weapon. It's 50x as terrible in the hands of someone who doesn't practice with it very often, if ever, you'd be lucky to hit a tree from 10 feet away.youd be suprised of the range this gun hasplus it has almost no recoil, and me being a small guy, even a 9 mm kicks my ass Link to post Share on other sites
El Guapo 8 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 LAWLS. if i had to grab a gun everytime a ghetto bird flew over, it'd be easier just to keep in my waistline.maybe a little over reaction? now this kind of scares me. not becouse you hear that somebody got pulled over and ran from the cops in your neighborhood and get scared and run for your gun. no, that kind of paranoia is just sad. what scares me is that you seem geniunly excited about the prospect of getting to use your gun to shoot somebody. Qucik response Hank then no more debate. We live in a unicncorporated area we have 2 sherrifs on duty on the weekend and one during the week. We are alone on an island (almost literally) I have been out here almost 7 years now and never seen the ghetto bird, they are not going to use the resources to bring that out unless a serious crime had been commited. I was also have a 2 year old at home and a pregnant wife, so yes when my back yard is getting spotlit like I was living back in a city, it is concerning.So when the only reason that I keep a gun in my house and not at my buddys in his safe, and I do not have ammo, it is a lit disconcerting. I felt it relevant to post here since this thread happened to be started the same day. Thats it, I'm not trigger happy or anything like that, I only shoot my guns once or twiced a year at that. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 got a new savage .30-06 last night. it is purty. think I'm gonna go get me some ammo and a sling today. probably gonna go shoot it and a few other guns tomorrow if it isn't raining. success! Link to post Share on other sites
hank213 1,823 Posted November 10, 2007 Author Share Posted November 10, 2007 got a new savage .30-06 last night. it is purty. think I'm gonna go get me some ammo and a sling today. probably gonna go shoot it and a few other guns tomorrow if it isn't raining. success!congrats. Link to post Share on other sites
navybuttons 15 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 i'm told my grandpa had as old 10 gauge shotgun. it's probably in his attic somewhere.anyone know anything about these? value, etc.also, would i have to find a custom cartridge maker for it?edit: i found some stuff on google about 10 gauges. it looks like they weren't as rare as i thought. i think his is a single shot pump action but really have no clue. looks like i'll have to find it to get any info on it. Link to post Share on other sites
scram 1 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 They'll kick the soul out of your body if you shoot them with a heavy buck or slug.I used to shoot pigs with an old 10 gauge Spanish SXS cut down to 18". I'd load brass hulls full of #4 buck. Even @ 18", that ****** was still a bear to tote. Those huge bores use up a lot of steel...Of all the firearms I've ever owned, if I were to pick one that most closest resembled a "hand of god" sort of result against gods living creatures, it would be that 10 gauge with 4 buck up close on hogs. It absolutely destroyed them, immediately and without exception. I shot a Florida deer (much smaller than other deer) with it one time and damn near turned it for a flip. Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 They'll kick the soul out of your body if you shoot them with a heavy buck or slug.I used to shoot pigs with an old 10 gauge Spanish SXS cut down to 18". I'd load brass hulls full of #4 buck. Even @ 18", that ****** was still a bear to tote. Those huge bores use up a lot of steel...Of all the firearms I've ever owned, if I were to pick one that most closest resembled a "hand of god" sort of result against gods living creatures, it would be that 10 gauge with 4 buck up close on hogs. It absolutely destroyed them, immediately and without exception. I shot a Florida deer (much smaller than other deer) with it one time and damn near turned it for a flip.Is that guy in your sig one of the sped kids all grown up? Link to post Share on other sites
scram 1 Posted November 10, 2007 Share Posted November 10, 2007 Munsters cousin from Oklahoma. Link to post Share on other sites
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