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[Actuary 3]

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver Cards)Preflop: Hero is SB with , . UTG calls, 5 folds, Hero completes, BB checks.Flop: (3 SB) , , (3 players)Hero bets, BB raises, UTG calls, Hero calls.Turn: (4.50 BB) (3 players)Hero bets, BB raises, UTG folds, Hero calls.River: (8.50 BB) (2 players)Hero checks, BB bets, Hero calls.Final Pot: 10.50 BBhis 1st handFold pf?Fold flop?3-bet turn? (we don't c/r right?)Lead River?

[Zach6668 513]

I c/f this flop a lot.With the way the flop went, why wouldn't you fold to the raise? You think it's the naked Ad or something? We don't have odds for 4 outs, do we? (8-1... no).Once we get to the turn though, I really don't mind a bet/call, bet/call line (on a blank river), or a bet/3-ball if we boat up.

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

Call preflop.Definitely check/fold the flop. I have a rule that I say to myself over and over again, because chip-spewing has been known to be a leak of mine, believe it or not:Every time I lead flops, I say to myself "Am I about to spew into a tiny pot out of position?" We don't care that our 3rd pair might be good here... just check/fold.If the flop had checked around, I'd bet/call the turn and lead a non-D river.

[Actuary 3]

TJ,why give up on the pot?You fold c/f AK here?

[Zach6668 513]

TJ,why give up on the pot?You fold AK here?

The pot would be twice as big if we had AK.We'd also be leading with considerably more fold equity.Apples and passionfruits.

[TJ_Eckleburg 0]

TJ,why give up on the pot?You fold AK here?

I give up the pot because there are 41 overcards (52 - four 2's - four 3's - Td - 4d - Qd) that are bad for our hand that are coming off for the turn.I would have auto-raised AK and auto-bet most flops, so whether or not AK is ahead here isn't relevant.And the pot's small and we're out of position.

[Actuary 3]

The pot would be twice as big if we had AK.We'd also be leading with considerably more fold equity.Apples and passionfruits.

I was going to say "(presuming we misclicked and did not raise)" but figured you'd be smart enough that I could exclude that part...Now back to the question...

[Zach6668 513]

I was going to say "(presuming we misclicked and did not raise)" but figured you'd be smart enough that I could exclude that part...Now back to the question...

Yes, fold AK in a 3 way 1.5 BB pot, that you are out of position in.Are you saying you would lead with it because you led with bottom pair?

[Actuary 3]

I give up the pot because there are 41 overcards (52 - four 2's - four 3's - Td - 4d - Qd) that are bad for our hand that are coming off for the turn.I would have auto-raised AK and auto-bet most flops, so whether or not AK is ahead here isn't relevant.And the pot's small and we're out of position.

well, I wasn't going to keep firing.I'll make note, may be trying too hardMy TT-QQ are killing me, perhaps that leaks into the other hands

[Actuary 3]

Yes, fold AK in a 3 way 1.5 BB pot, that you are out of position in.Are you saying you would lead with it because you led with bottom pair?

I suckI was thinking c/c but, yeah...I play better poker when I"m alone