Balloon guy 158 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Yeah, that's why we lost the war.. LOL and you call me ignorant. Glad you brought up Vietnam, though.. how many 10's of thousands of americans died because they were told they were fighting for our freedoms and making America safer. Vietnam was exactly zero threat to america, and the americans died there wasted their lives, throughly. What happened in Vietnam was an absolute travesty, a tragedy and a horror... I think it was terrible for the war protesters to mock soldiers, to throw things at them and to otherwise demean them. Their scorn should have been saved for Kissenger and Mcnamara, not for the poor ******* drafted into the army. Those men were victims. But to call them heroes only perpetuates myths... Men like you absolutely disgust me. thoroughly. You've never fought in a war.. you've never risked your life.. but you think you can tell other men to fight and wars and risk their lives for you.. you think you can freely lie to them, brainwash them, hand them a cigar, slap 'em on the back, get richer on their efforts, and expect to be respected for yours. Fck you. It's warmongering elites like you that have gotten men killed for generation after generation. I won't sit here and let your lies and propaganda go unquestioned.So you are here to defend truth, and you say it by telling soldiers they are throwing their lives away, the suckersbut I honestly don't have a lot of sympathy for people who got caught up in patriotic fever post 9/11, signed up to "protect our freedoms" and now are stuck in Iraq. I think those people, and I know this is going to sound harsh, but I think they are suckers. I think they, through ignorance or brainwashing, or through acting out of emotion rather than reason, allowed themselves to be caught up in the patriotic psychosis this country suffered Post 9/11. And now they have to pay that price. But I won't celebrate and glorify their "sacrifice" because I think that perpetuates myths and untruths, and encourages further generations of people to throw their lives away. I think they got conned, and hope future people see the absurdity and utter wrongness of this war, and many, many military actions soldiers take part in for the US.So you are so far above us that you can name call people that serve and die for this country, and prented yours is a higher calling.Call me all the names you want, you're a tool and will always be one. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 So if a country like say America was to go into a pissant litle asian country and decide to fight a war with them they would win everytime?Or would idiots at the homefront who call the soldiers names and mock their sacrifices demoralize them to the point of being unable to win the war?Been said before, but bombs and planes will never win a war, boots on the ground are needed.And when those soldiers put thier boots on the ground, they deserve at the least our quiet support, they don't deserve whiny half brains saying they are throwing their lives away and then try to act like you have a clue how the world is run.and like I said, you will probably never understand why you are a fool.Which makes you pathetic along with stupid.Worst Post Ever! Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 Yeah, that's why we lost the war.. LOL and you call me ignorant. Glad you brought up Vietnam, though.. how many 10's of thousands of americans died because they were told they were fighting for our freedoms and making America safer. Vietnam was exactly zero threat to america, and the americans died there wasted their lives, throughly. What happened in Vietnam was an absolute travesty, a tragedy and a horror... I think it was terrible for the war protesters to mock soldiers, to throw things at them and to otherwise demean them. Their scorn should have been saved for Kissenger and Mcnamara, not for the poor ******* drafted into the army. Those men were victims. But to call them heroes only perpetuates myths... Men like you absolutely disgust me. thoroughly. You've never fought in a war.. you've never risked your life.. but you think you can tell other men to fight and wars and risk their lives for you.. you think you can freely lie to them, brainwash them, hand them a cigar, slap 'em on the back, get richer on their efforts, and expect to be respected for yours. Fck you. It's warmongering elites like you that have gotten men killed for generation after generation. I won't sit here and let your lies and propaganda go unquestioned.so its ok for you to demean them?but im sure you were just trying to be clever Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 so its ok for you to demean them?but im sure you were just trying to be clever"Poor bastards" is a term of endearment.Lay off the booze you poor bastard. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 "Poor bastards" is a term of endearment.Lay off the booze you poor bastard.i thought he typed something elsemy bad Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 i thought he typed something elsemy badpoor basstard was the phrase I used, I didn't figure that it would get star'd out. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted May 22, 2007 Author Share Posted May 22, 2007 i thought he typed something elsemy badi guess i am confused because bastards has 8 letters, and the word in his post has 7edit: nm, it doesnt matter Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 i guess i am confused because bastards has 8 letters, and the word in his post has 7edit: nm, it doesnt matterbastard Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 So you are here to defend truth, and you say it by telling soldiers they are throwing their lives away, the suckersSo you are so far above us that you can name call people that serve and die for this country, and prented yours is a higher calling.Call me all the names you want, you're a tool and will always be one.Yes.. because telling them they are throwing away their lives is the truth.. I refuse to tell people sweet, romantic lies to facilitate their deaths. I'm not saying mine is a higher calling, but yours is just about the lowest on the planet. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Worst Post Ever!That ones not even close to my worst post..... Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,757 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Yeah, that's why we lost the war.. LOL and you call me ignorant. Glad you brought up Vietnam, though.. how many 10's of thousands of americans died because they were told they were fighting for our freedoms and making America safer. Vietnam was exactly zero threat to america, and the americans died there wasted their lives, throughly. What happened in Vietnam was an absolute travesty, a tragedy and a horror... I think it was terrible for the war protesters to mock soldiers, to throw things at them and to otherwise demean them. Their scorn should have been saved for Kissenger and Mcnamara, not for the poor ******* drafted into the army. Those men were victims. But to call them heroes only perpetuates myths... Men like you absolutely disgust me. thoroughly. You've never fought in a war.. you've never risked your life.. but you think you can tell other men to fight and wars and risk their lives for you.. you think you can freely lie to them, brainwash them, hand them a cigar, slap 'em on the back, get richer on their efforts, and expect to be respected for yours. Fck you. It's warmongering elites like you that have gotten men killed for generation after generation. I won't sit here and let your lies and propaganda go unquestioned.The spread of communism was a threat to America, unless you're Silent Snow or Noam Chomsky... even if Vietnam was not going to attack us. In hindsight, the war most likely empowered the communists since we ran away.... but it worked out in the end. TGFR. (Thank God For Reagan) Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 That ones not even close to my worst post........... can we get some links. done leave us hanging like this...... Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Yes.. because telling them they are throwing away their lives is the truth.. I refuse to tell people sweet, romantic lies to facilitate their deaths. I'm not saying mine is a higher calling, but yours is just about the lowest on the planet.Here's the problem, the people you are so quick to say threw away their lives, are dead. What they leave behind is beyond your judgement. You are just trying to defnd your stupidity, which is insane.I know this is a waste of time, but also am a sucker for beating my head against a wall.To give you an example of why you are so clueless.You earlier tried to discount one of my posts by asking if my kids are in the military, implying that I am a hypocrit if I don't. ( forget that you discounted my post)Then I pointed to a son in law that is in the Navy, going nukes.You tried to make the case that smart people stay away from front lines, so my sil would be safe.I pointed that no he would be on a war ship, you tried to say oh well they are safe.I said they are not safe and you tried to say I am dumb for thinking that a warship is more dangerous than a person in Iraq.First you tried to 'get me' with the "What about your kids", then when that failed yuo tried to cover yourself and say smart people won't go into harms way, then when that failed you are trying to put words in my mouth that Subs are as dangerous as an active battlefield.So now I am calling you an idiot for calling our soldiers suckers, less than smart, and followers and you have deduced that I am sending troops to die so I can get rich. No, I am saying that calling soldiers these names and telling their families that they were suckers that threw away their lives, makes you a retarded loser that deserves contempt and scorn. Trying to deflect this by making me into something I'm not, or by putting words and ideas behind my posts then telling everyone why they are wrong shows how dumb you are, and desperate.Like I said before, hide behind the intenet, because you will never be man enough to say these things in public.(This is where you try to argue that I said something other than what I said and then blow it out of the water with your 10th grade political logic) Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 ...... can we get some links. done leave us hanging like this......I uhhh plead the fifth. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 The spread of communism was a threat to America, unless you're Silent Snow or Noam Chomsky... even if Vietnam was not going to attack us. In hindsight, the war actually enpowered the communists since we ran away.... but it worked out in the end. TGFR. (Thank God For Reagan)LOL I don't even know where to begin on this post, so I won't. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Here's the problem, the people you are so quick to say threw away their lives, are dead. What they leave behind is beyond your judgement. You are just trying to defnd your stupidity, which is insane.I know this is a waste of time, but also am a sucker for beating my head against a wall.To give you an example of why you are so clueless.You earlier tried to discount one of my posts by asking if my kids are in the military, implying that I am a hypocrit if I don't. ( forget that you discounted my post)Then I pointed to a son in law that is in the Navy, going nukes.You tried to make the case that smart people stay away from front lines, so my sil would be safe.I pointed that no he would be on a war ship, you tried to say oh well they are safe.I said they are not safe and you tried to say I am dumb for thinking that a warship is more dangerous than a person in Iraq.First you tried to 'get me' with the "What about your kids", then when that failed yuo tried to cover yourself and say smart people won't go into harms way, then when that failed you are trying to put words in my mouth that Subs are as dangerous as an active battlefield.So now I am calling you an idiot for calling our soldiers suckers, less than smart, and followers and you have deduced that I am sending troops to die so I can get rich. No, I am saying that calling soldiers these names and telling their families that they were suckers that threw away their lives, makes you a retarded loser that deserves contempt and scorn. Trying to deflect this by making me into something I'm not, or by putting words and ideas behind my posts then telling everyone why they are wrong shows how dumb you are, and desperate.Like I said before, hide behind the intenet, because you will never be man enough to say these things in public.(This is where you try to argue that I said something other than what I said and then blow it out of the water with your 10th grade political logic)1) your children are not in the military, your future son-in-law is. There is a pretty distinct difference there.2) your future inlaw won't be in harms way3) You say that I deserve contempt and scorn, for saying they are suckers. Sorry if the truth is painful. A person who is tricked into giving away something of value by lying con men is the definition of a sucker. THey are being conned into throwing their lives away, told they are going to "protect our freedoms' when instead they are going to protect the property of the elite... I think this is dying for nothing, I think my life at least is to precious to die for that reason4) I have told everyfriend I've ever had that has gone into the military that they are making a mistake. I have no desire to shout on a street corner at military men that they are suckers, because that's less than useless. 5) Trying to make you into something you're not? You're not a warmongering, chicken hawk who spews propaganda any chance he gets? That's exactly what you are.. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Yawn.... Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,354 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Yawn....that's all you got? Link to post Share on other sites
jmkiser 0 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Yawn....I knew this discussion would get stupid when you showed up.You still have not given us one reason why we should respect someone's decision to join the military more then we should respect people in other jobs.The main point is the ridiculous pedestal that people put soldiers on. If a guy wants to fight in the military, go right ahead. I'm not ridiculing you or any other soldier in the least bit. But I ask everyone else not to expect me to go out of my way to thank this guy and worship the ground he walks on.I don't see these same people going out of their way to thank their mailman, buy him cigars, etc. for the job he does. I guess the possibility of death in their job just isn't high enough to be considered noble or honorable.Look, that's the hypocriscy of the social view of the soldiers. Worship them or not, I don't care... make sure you thank anyone else who provides for your way of life, too, if you do so. But mainly, quit getting in my face and demanding my respect for them. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I knew this discussion would get stupid when you showed up.You still have not given us one reason why we should respect someone's decision to join the military more then we should respect people in other jobs.The main point is the ridiculous pedestal that people put soldiers on. If a guy wants to fight in the military, go right ahead. I'm not ridiculing you or any other soldier in the least bit. But I ask everyone else not to expect me to go out of my way to thank this guy and worship the ground he walks on.I don't see these same people going out of their way to thank their mailman, buy him cigars, etc. for the job he does. I guess the possibility of death in their job just isn't high enough to be considered noble or honorable.Look, that's the hypocriscy of the social view of the soldiers. Worship them or not, I don't care... make sure you thank anyone else who provides for your way of life, too, if you do so. But mainly, quit getting in my face and demanding my respect for them.Whambulance alert!There is a difference between thinking soldiers are perfect, and being respectful for them doing a necessary dirty job, that often times gets them killed.There is also a difference between a policeman that answers the distress call, or a fireman that goes into a burning building, then a valet guy that parks your car. So Yes there are actually levels of respect for people's jobs.To sit in safety and belittle their jobs shows that you are also a loser with no concept of real life. To pretend they are not necessary is to show how little you know of life.The sad thing is you get the same benefits from those soldiers you deride. Of well, life's not fair. Luckily I know that people like you are far in the minority because most of us learned the difference between being respectful, and being degrading to prove how smart you are.Useful Idiots, wear the label proud. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 that's all you got?That's all you deserve Link to post Share on other sites
renaedawn 1 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I still hate this thread and now because I cannot logically separate emotion from cause, I hate you all as well.Anybody see what I did there? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 I still hate this thread and now because I cannot logically separate emotion from cause, I hate you all as well.Anybody see what I did there?Starbucks will do that to a person. Link to post Share on other sites
Dogpatch 2 Posted May 22, 2007 Share Posted May 22, 2007 Starbucks will do that to a person.Godamn Starbucks.... Link to post Share on other sites
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