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Villain is 25/13/1.5 after 47 hands.CryptologicLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $3/$65 playersConverterPre-flop: (5 players) Hero is CO with 3 :D A :) UTG folds, Hero raises, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero calls.Flop: 3 :D 7 :) K :club: (7.5SB, 2 players)Hero checks, Button bets, Hero calls.Turn: J :D (4.75BB, 2 players)Hero checks, Button checks.River: 7 :D (4.75BB, 2 players)Hero bets...A couple interesting things, firstly, preflop raise is standard, right?Secondly, I'm not a fan of raising this flop because I get 3-bet a lot here on Crypto, like people are bet/3-betting 55 on this board here, so I like to save that for when I have better than bottom pair. So I peel for bdfd and two pair/trip outs. Anyone disagree?Turn, I'm completely prepared to c/f, standard, I'd think. He checks through though. This tells me he doesn't have a pair, so I'm ahead. This brings me to the river, do we prefer a value bet here hoping to get called by Ax, or would we prefer to see a check, hoping to pick up a bluff?Cheers.

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Preflops fine. Flop/turn is fine against someone who gives up on turn. On river I dont think he is bluffing with his A high hands very often. I think hell just check and hope they are good. Betting may get called by some A high hands though, but he may also have a PP(55-TT) that will very likely call aswell. I think I like betting the river the best and think that if we check it shouldnt automatically be a c/c and we should consider a c/f.Then again he may think he has too bluff on the river with A high too win. I hate having reads that are just numbers.

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I hate having reads that are just numbers.
Yeah, agreed. I was actually suprised that I had 50 hands on him, he'd been super quiet and I hadn't noticed a thing up until this hand.I felt like he was a standard Tag/Lag decent player, like most of the players on Crypto, aggro, will 3-bet light if the situation calls for, etc. Most of these players don't give up on the turn like that, so his check actually suprised me, I was expecting to just fold.
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Unless I expect villain to make a crying call on this river with A-high (which given the description, I don't- after all, what is villain going to put us on that A-high can beat after we peel on this flop), I actually like a check-fold on this river. (I'm expecting that usually villain will check behind, and we'll win the pot against his A-high, but sometimes, he'll check behind, and well lose to his TT (or something similar), and sometimes he'll bet and we'll fold, but I don't think we win 1/6 of the time that he bets).

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I think after his turn check, I'm ahead more than 1/6. If I'm checking, it's because I'm calling a bet, on this particular river. A lot of rivers, I can c/f, but this one did nothing to improve his hand.

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I think after his turn check, I'm ahead more than 1/6. If I'm checking, it's because I'm calling a bet, on this particular river. A lot of rivers, I can c/f, but this one did nothing to improve his hand.
If you check the river to him I dont think hes betting A high though very often if he is a decent player so it makes it hard for him to be betting something worse than yours so in that sense c/f seems best, but some guys will bet dumb **** like AQ and AT here so Id probably have to call here until I had a better read, but I think its alot closer between c/c and c/f then you do.
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You know, it's possible that there is a significant difference in game standards between sites. The games I play regularly on Crypto, if I check any street out of position, they will be maybe 90% of the time, no matter what they have. The river is a bit different, where you get a few more showdown checks, but I still routinely see decent players betting their 89s there that they FPS'ed into 3-betting preflop, etc. The play on Crypto is sorta weird.

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You know, it's possible that there is a significant difference in game standards between sites. The games I play regularly on Crypto, if I check any street out of position, they will be maybe 90% of the time, no matter what they have. The river is a bit different, where you get a few more showdown checks, but I still routinely see decent players betting their 89s there that they FPS'ed into 3-betting preflop, etc. The play on Crypto is sorta weird.
I have no idea how different sites play since Ive only played on Stars, but from the guys stats he doesnt seem that aggressive to either bet 90% when checked to or 3-bet 98s in that spot. Also when people reraise with trash they normally dont give up so easily.
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I have no idea how different sites play since Ive only played on Stars, but from the guys stats he doesnt seem that aggressive to either bet 90% when checked to or 3-bet 98s in that spot. Also when people reraise with trash they normally dont give up so easily.
Yeah, I know... these games are weird.I'm doin something right there though... 2.36 BB/100 over my last 9929 hands somehow, lol.
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if we check it shouldnt automatically be a c/c and we should consider a c/f.
Villain checked down the turn.The river was a total blank.I would never consider check-folding under these circumstances.This river decision is very dependant on the read.If Villain has shown me he will call down on the river with A-high, obviously a value bet can be made.Otherwise, I don't see much point to a bet.Because I expect a middle pocket pair to call.So I will usually just check.But if I check here on the river, I am calling every time.--CM
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