doyle brunson and crew cheap?

[GTKID 0]

What do you mean "customary." Because you say I have to, I now have to? It was customary for people in Germany to kill Jews in the 1940's... I guess I have to do what you say is customary, because you are right and are able to dictate morality. Thanks for telling me what I must do, who would know better then the dealer that is just trying to make money like the player, but who is never tipping the player when the player does something right. You get a salary to do your job. Nobody is getting "stiffed." If someone feels like giving you THEIR money, then they can. Just because they are playing at the table you don't instantly have a right to some of THEIR money. And I believe T.I.P.S. is actually To Insure Proper Service. I could be wrong, but it means the same basic thing as the Promptness. Thanks for letting me know I have to give you some of my money because you did your job and I am already paying a rake. Isn't tipping when you win pretty stupid anyways? I'm sorry but you did not contribute to my playing well and winning the hand, why don't you tip me since I did something right? Tipping at the end of a session for the overall job makes much more sense then having the winning players foot the "customary" tips because they played well.

[theresa113 0]

I live in Florida. The dealers here have to go to school for 5-8 weeks with absolutely no pay. When they first start out, they get all of the horrible shifts, like 6:00 AM-12:00 Am Sunday throught Thursday. The tips are in a box, added at the end of the night and turned into the casino. The tips are added onto their pay check. They make about three dollars an hours and they are taxed on EVERYTHING. (I found this out last night while going on a bus trip to the Hard Rock with 2 dealers on the bus.) On a busy night, you may see tons of tips head the dealers way but do you think you see the same on a Wednesday morning at 4:00 AM? I am sure most of the post on here about NOT tipping are from young players (I see it in my home game) or people from more socialistic economies. All I can say is learn some class and etiquette. I tipped my dealers very well last night, had TONS of fun and still game home with some extra dough. Some of you claim that it eats into your profits... umm... I seriously doubt any of you are professional players and solely live off of poker earnings. So, in reality, you are going out to gamble and you should be paying for your entertainment. If you are really a professional poker player and you are not tipping, than maybe you should rethink the term "professional".

[Landon_McFly 0]

i read somewhere that something like 63% of $50 bills have traces of blow on themnot sure if this is true

I got in some trouble concerning some $$$ I had in my car that the K-9 unit smelled and the cash was seized by the police. I didn't have any drugs on me, just $$$, and when I told my lawyer about it he said that about 70% of all cash has the scent of some sort of drug on itFood 4 thought

[Kevin Garceau 0]

A couple weeks ago in vegas I was playing a few tournies.Brunson was supposed to play in the limit tourney with us. Small private tourney type... 30 people or so.He couldnt do it as some movie being filmed across town needed him in a few hours. So he sat round signed autographs, gave 2 hard cover SS2 books away and autographed them.He then found out it was a girls B-day with us. He took her to lunch and treated to what ever she wanted. Then reached in his wallet and signed a 100 dollar bill, wishing her happy b-day and gve it to her.As he dropped her off back at the Orleans, he gave her 500 dollars and said here, go have fun.Friends I know used to deliver pizza out in vegas years back. Was nothing for him to give a few hundred dollar tip.Cheap, I dont know, maybe its circumstantial....

[minordeity 0]

I almost always tip something when I am winning or if I get an especially good dealer. Tipping helps get the dealer on your side. When I was dealing years ago if someone tipped me I made sure to look out for them while they were at the tables. Sometimes it comes down to the dealer's final say if there was a string raise or if someone read their hand correctly. I remember one hand that a "good" tipper had an ace high flush and the "bad" tipper had a straight flush although he didn't realize it. I am pretty sure I was the only one that noticed what he had but I wasn't going to help this jerk out so the other guy swept the pot. Just a $5 tip at the beginning of his session and I would have said something. But that said I believe it is up to the individual whether or not to tip.

Wow' date=' its good to see you're helpful only to those who give you money' date=' that sounds more like bribery than anything else. I fix computers, thats my job,i dont get paid much, and dont expect to get tipped. By your retarded logic, if im fixing a computer, and they dont tip, I should fix the problem, but not let them know about the virus on it. After all, they are so cheap, they wont pay me personally to do my job, even after they are already paying for the service.[/quote'']Wow, its good to see you're helpful only to those who give you money, that sounds more like bribery than anything else. I fix computers, thats my job,i dont get paid much, and dont expect to get tipped. By your retarded logic, if im fixing a computer, and they dont tip, I should fix the problem, but not let them know about the virus on it. After all, they are so cheap, they wont pay me personally to do my job, even after they are already paying for the service.

ummm... your analogy is a bit off. When you fix computers you are getting paid to FIX COMPUTERS. When I deal I am getting paid to DEAL not read your hand for you. But if you do something nice for me I will go out of my way and do something nice for you. Let me guess, you never get a nice table at a restuarant because you never tip the maitre' de right? I also bet your pizza is always the last one to be delivered because you never tip. See any link there buddy? :think: Mr Monkey: Yes and maybe monkeys would have flown out of my butt. Heck he wouldn't even have said thank you to me. That was just the kind of guy he was. He got what he deserved.

[Chrisj1616 0]

Easy answer....if you play small stakes tip your dealer a buck or 2 after thier down wether you won a pot or not....that way you diont overtip and you dont look like a stiff when theyre done..If EVERYONE did just that dealers would make a nice living

[minordeity 0]

Chrisj1616: excellent point!

[cwsiggy 0]

I know that Linda of Pokerworks.com and an experienced dealer at the Bellagio said that theere is a rumour that the 300-600 mixed game will be heading over to the Wynn when it opens and she said in her blog "...please take it be my guest" something like that. I imagine it's because A. It's a pain to deal and B. the tipping stinks. It's a known fact that te higher the limits the worse the tips.

[Mr Monkey 0]

Easy answer....if you play small stakes tip your dealer a buck or 2 after thier down wether you won a pot or not....that way you diont overtip and you dont look like a stiff when theyre done..If EVERYONE did just that dealers would make a nice living

WTF. so if u play 2-4/3-6 u should tip a buck or 2 whether u win the pot or not.thats just silly. u would lose money if u did that.

[Mantis666 0]

I think what our spelling chalenged friend was trying to say is this.When the dealer rotates out, throw him/her a buck or two.

[Mr Monkey 0]

I think what our spelling chalenged friend was trying to say is this.When the dealer rotates out, throw him/her a buck or two.

if thats what he was saying then i think thats a good way to tip

[Allie 0]

I live in Florida. The dealers here have to go to school for 5-8 weeks with absolutely no pay. When they first start out, they get all of the horrible shifts, like 6:00 AM-12:00 Am Sunday throught Thursday. The tips are in a box, added at the end of the night and turned into the casino. The tips are added onto their pay check. They make about three dollars an hours and they are taxed on EVERYTHING. (I found this out last night while going on a bus trip to the Hard Rock with 2 dealers on the bus.) On a busy night, you may see tons of tips head the dealers way but do you think you see the same on a Wednesday morning at 4:00 AM? I am sure most of the post on here about NOT tipping are from young players (I see it in my home game) or people from more socialistic economies. All I can say is learn some class and etiquette. I tipped my dealers very well last night, had TONS of fun and still game home with some extra dough. Some of you claim that it eats into your profits... umm... I seriously doubt any of you are professional players and solely live off of poker earnings. So, in reality, you are going out to gamble and you should be paying for your entertainment. If you are really a professional poker player and you are not tipping, than maybe you should rethink the term "professional".

I agree with everything you have said Theresa. Dealing can be a tough job, with lousy hours and lousy pay...while taking abuse and crap from some players (probably clones of the guys on here b*tching and moaning about having to tip). If I'm playing 4/8, and win a pot...it's likely between 20-100 pot...so I tip a buck. If I'm playing 10/20 or 15/30, and I win a small pot, I tip a buck or 2...if I win a good pot 200-500 bucks or more...yeah I can manage a 5 buck tip without going broke! LOL. Of course, if your playing 1/2 (which I have never played in a casino...haven't even seen it actually lol)....I guess tipping a buck out of a 10$ pot, is a bit excessive at 10%...and it seems to be the low limit players that are b*tching the most....so tip every 3rd pot or something. As long as the dealer is providing adequate service, the same as a waiter or waitress in a restaurant....a tip is just the decent thing to do. If, the dealer makes mistakes that cost me money, or is rude to me personally, well then of course I'm not going to tip...just as a wouldn't tip a waitress,etc for poor service. Tipping is not mandatory...there has to be adequate service provided, but assuming there is good service...then be a sport and tip!

[Mr Monkey 0]

I live in Florida. The dealers here have to go to school for 5-8 weeks with absolutely no pay. When they first start out, they get all of the horrible shifts, like 6:00 AM-12:00 Am Sunday throught Thursday. ".

big deal. people go to school for years to get jobs and they dont get paid. dealers arent the only people who work bad hours. if dealers dont like the work or the hours then they should do something else. most places u work the new employees get the shit jobs or hours thats the way it works

[Allie 0]

I live in Florida. The dealers here have to go to school for 5-8 weeks with absolutely no pay. When they first start out, they get all of the horrible shifts, like 6:00 AM-12:00 Am Sunday throught Thursday. ".

big deal. people go to school for years to get jobs and they dont get paid. dealers arent the only people who work bad hours. if dealers dont like the work or the hours then they should do something else. most places u work the new employees get the censored jobs or hours thats the way it works

huh?? roflmaodammmm...glad i didn't go to THAT school !

[Mr Monkey 0]

I live in Florida. The dealers here have to go to school for 5-8 weeks with absolutely no pay. When they first start out, they get all of the horrible shifts, like 6:00 AM-12:00 Am Sunday throught Thursday. ".

big deal. people go to school for years to get jobs and they dont get paid. dealers arent the only people who work bad hours. if dealers dont like the work or the hours then they should do something else. most places u work the new employees get the censored jobs or hours thats the way it works

huh?? roflmaodammmm...glad i didn't go to THAT school !

they dont get paid to go to school

[jayboogie 0]

If they're a good dealer, they do a good job, keep the game going fast, then yeah I have no problem tipping them. The problem is most dealers feel they're entitled to a tip, when they are not. Dealers shouldn't expect handouts, if you want to be tipped well, do your job right. Don't misdeal, slow the game down and what not and you'll be treated well. I see scowls on the faces of dealers everytime they get stiffed or if somebody tips them only a buck for a bit pot. I wish you guys would just be more professional about it, frankly most dealers plain suck and a lot of them don't deserve a tip at all.to the poster that said it's not your job to decide what hand wins, your absolute wrong. The reason you flip over your cards is for the dealer to decide who wins the pot. It is your job to declare who the winner of the hand is. It doesn't matter if the guy thought he lost the hand, it was wrong of you to stiff the guy out of the pot. Even if he deserved it doesn't mean you should have done it. You don't deserve a tip if your not even going to do your job properly and be professional about it.

[Guest]

even IF this is true,,,i can't see how anyone thinks these pros tipping dealers can possibly hinder their winnings any more than a regular player.in fact they should be able to afford it MORE.if you can afford to tip because you won, you should.& if you get an a-hole for a dealer then maybe not.just like a waitress,,,good service=good tip.unless she has big ti*ts ! then you should always tip!

[Stylistic 0]

Just because they play 4k 8k doesnt mean they should give 1 k away when they win a pot versus 4/8 limits in which people usually give a dollar for winning. I think dealers should get standard whether they're dealing in the high limits or not. I'm sure a lot of the pros hold dollar chips next to their $1000 chip just in case they need to tip.To be honest I think tipping when winning a pot is too much. I personally think it's proper to tip the dealer right before they're leaving. I usally give 5 to 10 bucks for the entire session they've delt. And even so that can get heavy. Remember, real poker players are there to make 1 big BET and hour, and tipping in the case would totally demeanour the idea of making money. I think dealers are too spoiled. They MAKE A LOT OF MONEY! I know, because I have friends that deal. Not that I'm jealous of them, I just don't think they should expect too much from people.

[jayboogie 0]

I know some dealers that make upwards of 1000 dollars a night sometimes dealing at card clubs. B&M's are notorious for heavy tipping, so dealers can definitely make a good buck at these places. To complain about ppl not tipping you is stupid, you chose the profession, nobody is making you deal cards. Suck it up and live with it, you can always quit your job if you don't like it.