Two Pair No Goot?

[tripdeuces 0]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero (t2450)UTG (t4465)Button (t5605)SB (t980)Preflop: Hero is BB with 8, Q. UTG calls t200, Button calls t200, 1 fold, Hero checks.Flop: (t700) 7, Q, 8(3 players)Hero bets t400, UTG calls t400, Button raises to t1200, Hero ?

[NEtwowilldo 0]

Hero shoves

[tripdeuces 0]

Why would we being in 3rd place and having to worry about a reraiser as well as the cld caller behind on a board when i am probably barely a ahead or way behind? Reasoning???

[NEtwowilldo 0]

Meh good point, you could wait for the SB to bust then go shortstack ninja style.On second thought you could just let it go, but I think you're folding the best hand a fair amount of the time here. I'm not gonna estimate a percentage though.

[tripdeuces 0]

Its an interesting spot to be honest. How often do you think you are ahead when you raise, get cold called then reraised? It's a strange spot to say the least.

[cheetaking 0]

best case you're up against a flush draw and top pair. Worst case, you're up against a set and a made flush.In deep-stacked situations, this is an easy "call and see what he does on the turn" scenario. But this is different. Here's my thoughts:1. There is a player with an M of only 3 still in, and it's the bubble. If you lose, you win nothing. If you fold, you're still in great shape for making the money.2. There's a flat-caller behind you. He is almost as much of a threat as the raiser.3. In the best-case scenario, you're only winning 66% of the time. If you fold, you have twice as much as the short stack, so you're still going to make the money about 66% of the time even if you fold.Think of it this way... if you fold, you'll make the money 66% of the time, while if you stay with the hand you're only going to win the hand 66% of the time, and with no guarantee that you'll make the money by winning the hand. And that's the best-case scenario. You could just as easily be almost drawing dead.So I say fold and wait the SB out.

[tripdeuces 0]

Your first point is why i didn't agree with one of your statements in the other thread. I like I liiiiiiiiike

[Yahkin 0]

Well, I put UTG on the nut flush draw. The button is likely sitting on TPGK with a heart to boot. Anywhere but the bubble and I'm pulling a muscle getting my chips in the middle.Here though, I probably fold my trap hand and let the big stacks beat on each other. The shorty is just short enough that we are in very good shape for the money.

[Kestral123 0]

Well, I put UTG on the nut flush draw. The button is likely sitting on TPGK with a heart to boot. Anywhere but the bubble and I'm pulling a muscle getting my chips in the middle.

Assuming you are right, button effectively has anywhere from 10-13 outs to the river (depending on whether the turn card is higher than an 8), so you aren't that much of a favorite if you get it all in on the flop. When you factor in the chance that one of the other guys could have a set or a made flush already, and the stack sizes and payout factors, I think this is a relatively easy fold here.