Raising With A6 Over Limper?

[CoranMoran 0]

PokerStars 2/4 Hold'em (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Preflop: Hero is Button with A, 6. UTG calls, 2 folds, Hero raises, 2 folds, UTG calls.Flop: (5.50 SB) J, 9, 9(2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.Turn: (3.75 BB) 8(2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.River: (5.75 BB) K(2 players)UTG checks, Hero checks.Final Pot: 5.75 BB================Reads:BB was tight and folded his blind often.UTG was Loose - PassiveHe had been limping with lots of hands.And he made loose postflop calls too.Given this read, is there value in isolating Villain with A6 and playing it like this?This is my normal play, but sometimes I question it.Please advise.--CM

[Moneyball16 0]

Id play it the same against a loose passive who could be peeling the flop with lots of trash.

[Zach6668 513]

IPITS.I fold preflop sometimes.Just kinda depends on the feel of the game and whether or not I can play a crappy ace profitably. I dread low-mid aces with a passion.

[antistuff 0]

utg has to be a calling station and the blinds have to be overly tight for this to be good. with those conditions met, nh.

[aim786 0]

utg has to be a calling station and the blinds have to be overly tight for this to be good. with those conditions met, nh.

Good points. Another requirement would be that our hand have showdown value since we can expect our opponent to loosely call until showdown. Given the particular situation, I'd raise any A there pf.

[mikeysong 0]

what?!you can't fold that on the button. Do you not like easy monies?I play it the same and I like it lots.

[Zach6668 513]

what?!you can't fold that on the button. Do you not like easy monies?I play it the same and I like it lots.

Yeah, I'm weak-tight with weak aces.

[checkymcfold 0]

i do that against any player that would open limp ever.

[MrNiceGuy 0]

i do that against any player that would open limp ever.

I think the blinds (chiefly the BB) are they key to the decision. I like the raise against any limper (except of course for the guys that only open-limp monsters) as long as there is a reasonable chance of getting it HU. But, if the BB is the type who will almost never fold for a single raise, then I would call if the BB and limper are horrible postflop, and fold if they are decent postflop.

[checkymcfold 0]

I think the blinds (chiefly the BB) are they key to the decision. I like the raise against any limper (except of course for the guys that only open-limp monsters) as long as there is a reasonable chance of getting it HU. But, if the BB is the type who will almost never fold for a single raise, then I would call if the BB and limper are horrible postflop, and fold if they are decent postflop.

i don't think i agree. you're ahead of the BB most of the time, right?the thing about ax hands to a limper is that you have to drop the idea that c-bets are necessary, imho.

[Zach6668 513]

i don't think i agree. you're ahead of the BB most of the time, right?the thing about ax hands to a limper is that you have to drop the idea that c-bets are necessary, imho.

What's the point of raising if we aren't going to use the supposed FE to fire the flop, to at least see a free river?Why don't we just limp along if we're just going to out play them postflop. Our edge with A6o can't be huge over a limper unless he's quite loose.I think hands like this give me the most trouble though. When I'm in a weak tight mood, I fold these a lot. Maybe not A6, but A2-A5o, after one limper.

[checkymcfold 0]

What's the point of raising if we aren't going to use the supposed FE to fire the flop, to at least see a free river?Why don't we just limp along if we're just going to out play them postflop. Our edge with A6o can't be huge over a limper unless he's quite loose.I think hands like this give me the most trouble though. When I'm in a weak tight mood, I fold these a lot. Maybe not A6, but A2-A5o, after one limper.

sorry, i kinda implied something i didn't mean to. i still c-bet VERY often with these hands, just less often when the BB sees a flop and the flop comes some connected low-middle cards (this would not be the case to just the limper).

[Zach6668 513]

Play on my accounts for a while, and you'll learn that A2-A6 are -EV. 100% of the time there's a bigger ace, even if folds to me in the SB.

[checkymcfold 0]

Play on my accounts for a while, and you'll learn that A2-A6 are -EV. 100% of the time there's a bigger ace, even if folds to me in the SB.

no fucking way.