joshrogo 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I was listening to the radio show on Pokerwire Radio - and Sebok was speaking about having a staking deal "like gavin does" and the possibility of it drying up if he doesn't cash enough ..Who is staking gavin? .. he has won a WPT and was at the final table of another -- plus a second in a WSOP circuit event. Why does he need to be staked? .. Anyone on the inside? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I was listening to the radio show on Pokerwire Radio - and Sebok was speaking about having a staking deal "like gavin does" and the possibility of it drying up if he doesn't cash enough ..Who is staking gavin? .. he has won a WPT and was at the final table of another -- plus a second in a WSOP circuit event. Why does he need to be staked? .. Anyone on the inside?A "staking deal" might be different than a "stake." Link to post Share on other sites
PMJackson21 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Unless things have changed, I'm pretty sure it was Edog. The deal covered hotel, travel, and living expenses etc too if I recall correctly. Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Why does he need to be staked?If you could enter major tournaments without risk and only had to share a portion of your earnings, would you? Link to post Share on other sites
Freddec 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 i thought he had a deal with lingdren at one point Link to post Share on other sites
sixhands 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 i thought he had a deal with lingdren at one pointThat would be Edog, like PMJ said 3 posts back Link to post Share on other sites
akoff 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Who is staking gavin? .. he has won a WPT and was at the final table of another -- plus a second in a WSOP circuit event. Why does he need to be staked? ..You are assuming he has any kind of money management skills. One of the biggest weaknesses of poker players, business men and politicians is the complete inablity to hand their won money. They can make it, build it and then piss it away... Link to post Share on other sites
troyomac 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 That would be Edog, like PMJ said 3 posts back He was probably typing this before PMJ's post came up, look at the time stamp Link to post Share on other sites
SilentButDeadly3 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I've always wondered if Gavin Smith had much money management skills when you consider his prop bets seem ridiculously large when in relation to his tournament winnings. i.e. bet with Allie Prescott, the $300k bet with Jeff Madsen at the HU Championship, doing random gambling things etc. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 It's not uncommon for winning tournament players to get staked. It's not necessarily a bad deal for them either given the high variance in big buy-in tournaments. TJ Cloutier who is one of the all time winningest tournament players has a staking deal. Link to post Share on other sites
socalpoker_j 1 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 It's not uncommon for winning tournament players to get staked. It's not necessarily a bad deal for them either given the high variance in big buy-in tournaments. TJ Cloutier who is one of the all time winningest tournament players has a staking deal.TJ has terrible money management leaks aka craps. Link to post Share on other sites
joshrogo 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Author Share Posted April 24, 2007 But i understood that TJ loses a ton of dough playing craps, which is why he needs to be staked .. Is that the case with Gavin, or does he do it to limit his downside (and if so, doesn't it also severly limit his upside) .. Also, how much would a player like Gavin get from Full Tilt? I know he wears the garb, but does he ever play on the site?thx for all the helpful replies Link to post Share on other sites
kingofnines 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Gavin Smith is backed by Black Velvet wiskey. He discussed it several times while doing the "Circuit" broadcasts with Sebok and Scott Huff.Alan Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Black Velvet wiskey.Gag.-Everyone Link to post Share on other sites
FoxwoodsPro 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Then I feel I should be backed by Bacardi, lifes not fair Link to post Share on other sites
magnus72 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Gag.-EveryoneQFMFTUsed to love it when I would only have eight bucks to get drunk on. Link to post Share on other sites
Rodney21a 1 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 He and Seboks pop bets show is hilarious. He has lost EVERYONE of them. I loved to see him getting pounded by female kick boxer, hilarouse. He lost the WPT event in Los Angeles(the bet was who would last longer) so he had to tattoo Sebok's initials on his arse. Sebok had mercy and let him do it on his shoulder blade I think. The eating contest was surprising, you'd expect a big guy like Gavin could eat lots of tacos. Link to post Share on other sites
Whatever 1 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 I remember reading Gavin's blog when he first started it and he talked about playing hi stakes craps or blackjack while on break during the final stages of a WSOP tourney. Total action junkie. Those guys are usually pretty broke no matter how much they win in tournaments. Link to post Share on other sites
mx957 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 He and Seboks pop bets show is hilarious. He has lost EVERYONE of them. I loved to see him getting pounded by female kick boxer, hilarouse. He lost the WPT event in Los Angeles(the bet was who would last longer) so he had to tattoo Sebok's initials on his arse. Sebok had mercy and let him do it on his shoulder blade I think. The eating contest was surprising, you'd expect a big guy like Gavin could eat lots of tacos.Not Everyone of them. If you remember in the 2006 WSOP Sebok had to come dressed as a cartoon character everyday. That was some funny stuff. Link to post Share on other sites
Rodney21a 1 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 Not Everyone of them. If you remember in the 2006 WSOP Sebok had to come dressed as a cartoon character everyday. That was some funny stuff. http://www.rawvegas.tv/propsandflops/propbets/ Link to post Share on other sites
SweetDaddyFreak 0 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 He and Seboks pop bets show is hilarious. He has lost EVERYONE of them. I loved to see him getting pounded by female kick boxer, hilarouse. He lost the WPT event in Los Angeles(the bet was who would last longer) so he had to tattoo Sebok's initials on his arse. Sebok had mercy and let him do it on his shoulder blade I think. The eating contest was surprising, you'd expect a big guy like Gavin could eat lots of tacos.How come I don't know about these, they sound hilariousLink? Link to post Share on other sites
Rodney21a 1 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 How come I don't know about these, they sound hilariousLink? http://www.rawvegas.tv/propsandflops/propbets/ Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted April 24, 2007 Share Posted April 24, 2007 EVERY <space> ONE Link to post Share on other sites
sixhands 0 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 He was probably typing this before PMJ's post came up, look at the time stamp Good point, I didn't see that. Nice detective work Troyo Link to post Share on other sites
Potsie P 0 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Why does the brother of Sam Kinison need staking?Anyway, it should be BLIMPIE. Link to post Share on other sites
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