SpiderGuard 0 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 As stated in my other thread along these lines:I play a lot of small SNGs (3 tables and under), and have been actually doing consistently fairly well for the first time thanks to finally finding some discipline and help from the good people in Tourney Strat. However, I feel like I lose more than my share when I get to heads up. So I wanted to post a full tourney's worth of Heads Up hands and see if people would be willing to offer feedback. I think most of this is standard, but then again I feel like I lose far more in Heads Up than I win so maybe I don't know what standard is.Thanks to anyone who wades through all this. Eleven hands total, I'm looking for feedback on any of them if you have it. I have a couple more of these to post if anyone is willing to look at them. Thanks in advance.Hand 6 seems particularly donktastic to me...don't know what I was thinking there.(Note: The results are still in because I figure you all can figure out the results from the fact the tourney didn't end on any hand I pushed.)******* Hand 1 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t200/t4002 playersConverterStack sizes:SB: t11370Hero: t2130Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 3 3 SB calls t200 (pot was t600), Hero raises all-in t2130, SB folds.Uncalled bets: t1730 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: t800******* Hand 2 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t200/t4002 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: t2530BB: t10970Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with T A Hero raises all-in t2530, BB calls t2130 (pot was t2930).Flop: Q 8 Q (t5060, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t5060)Turn: 9 (t5060, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t5060)River: 7 (t5060, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: t5060)Results:Final pot: t5060******* Hand 3 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t200/t4002 playersConverterStack sizes:SB: t8440Hero: t5060Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 2 5 SB calls t200 (pot was t600), Hero checks.Flop: 3 K 8 (t800, 2 players)Hero checks, SB bets t400, Hero folds.Uncalled bets: t400 returned to SB.Results:Final pot: t800******* Hand 4 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t200/t4002 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: t4660BB: t8840Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with T J Hero calls t200 (pot was t600), BB checks.Flop: 7 9 J (t800, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets t800, BB calls t800 (pot was t1600).Turn: 6 (t2400, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets t1200.Uncalled bets: t1200 returned to Hero. River: 4 (t2400, 2 players)BB calls t1200 (pot was t2400), BB checks, Hero is all-in t2260, BB folds.Uncalled bets: t2260 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: t2400******* Hand 5 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t200/t4002 playersConverterStack sizes:SB: t6440Hero: t7060Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 7 Q SB calls t200 (pot was t600), Hero checks.Flop: 9 8 A (t800, 2 players)Hero checks, SB bets t400, Hero folds.Uncalled bets: t400 returned to SB.Results:Final pot: t800******* Hand 6 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t200/t4002 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: t6660BB: t6840Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with J K Hero raises to t800, BB calls t400 (pot was t1000).Flop: 3 K J (t1600, 2 players)BB checks, Hero bets t800, BB calls t800 (pot was t2400).Turn: 5 (t3200, 2 players)BB checks, Hero checks.River: J (t3200, 2 players)BB checks, Hero is all-in t5060, BB folds.Uncalled bets: t5060 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: t3200******* Hand 7 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t200/t4002 playersConverterStack sizes:SB: t5240Hero: t8260Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 3 8 SB calls t200 (pot was t600), Hero checks.Flop: 5 Q 3 (t800, 2 players)Hero bets t400, SB calls t400 (pot was t1200).Turn: A (t1600, 2 players)Hero bets t800, SB folds.Uncalled bets: t800 returned to Hero. Results:Final pot: t1600******* Hand 8 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t200/t4002 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: t9060BB: t4440Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 6 Q Hero folds, Hero folds.Uncalled bets: t400 returned to BB.Results:Final pot: t200******* Hand 9 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t300/t6002 playersConverterStack sizes:SB: t4640Hero: t8860Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with K 6 SB calls t300 (pot was t900), Hero checks.Flop: 7 2 3 (t1200, 2 players)Hero checks, SB bets t1200, Hero folds.Uncalled bets: t1200 returned to SB.Results:Final pot: t1200******* Hand 10 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t300/t6002 playersConverterStack sizes:Hero: t8260BB: t5240Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 3 T Hero folds, Hero folds.Uncalled bets: t600 returned to BB.Results:Final pot: t300******* Hand 11 ********Absolute PokerNo Limit Holdem TournamentBlinds: t300/t6002 playersConverterStack sizes:SB: t5540Hero: t7960Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with 8 7 SB raises to t1200, Hero calls t600 (pot was t1500).Flop: 4 5 8 (t2400, 2 players)Hero bets t1800, SB raises all-in t4340, Hero calls t2540 (pot was t8540).(Turn and River snipped) Link to post Share on other sites
SlackerInc 0 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 Agree about hand 6. I wasn't crazy about hands 7 and 8 either; the rest looks pretty good to me. Link to post Share on other sites
mjd 0 Posted April 18, 2007 Share Posted April 18, 2007 In General, I think you're doing ok. I'd try betting the turn for hand 6. And, I'd raise K6s preflop and maybe JTo preflop. But, I don't see anything terrible. Link to post Share on other sites
SpiderGuard 0 Posted April 19, 2007 Author Share Posted April 19, 2007 Agree about hand 6. I wasn't crazy about hands 7 and 8 either; the rest looks pretty good to me.Did I over play my crappy pair on hand 7?Am I too tight/passive preflop? Looking at these (and the other thread) I don't know if I raise enough. Link to post Share on other sites
AKProdigy 0 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Hand 6 obv.Hand 7.. I don't know I didn't mind the play. The turn bet I think should have been larger with the Ace as a scarecard. I think you got lucky on that one.Hand 8... I'd raise pf.Everything else seems find Link to post Share on other sites
SlackerInc 0 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Looking more at hand 7, I may have been too conservative. You did win it after all! I guess I would just be leery of building such a big pot with a weak pair.Hand 8, I don't know about raising as AK suggested...but definitely not fold. You should pretty much always at least call on the button with ATC because you are getting 3-1 and the BB has a random hand. If the BB starts raising a lot when you just complete the blind, do two things: (1) start folding some of your very worst hands;and (2) begin to just complete the blind even with your very strong hands (and reraise when the BB raises you), then show the strong hand if he folds. That should get him off your back and let you go back to limping your weaker holdings in peace. If it doesn't, then keep limping with the good hands and take advantage of his auto-raising OOP. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted April 19, 2007 Share Posted April 19, 2007 Hand 7: Not sure about the weak lead with bottom pair. Were you betting for information? If you're going to bet, I think you'd rather give yourself a chance to take the pot right there, and that bet likely won't do it.Hand 9: You're the bigstack - keep up the pressure by raising his limps. K6s is a half-decent hand to do it with.Hand 11: I don't like the call with 87. Notice how villain was pretty passive PF through the first 10 hands, and suddenly he leads with a raise to 1200 from the SB. Throw away the 87. Link to post Share on other sites
Sid Simelia 0 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Hand 7: Not sure about the weak lead with bottom pair. Were you betting for information? If you're going to bet, I think you'd rather give yourself a chance to take the pot right there, and that bet likely won't do it.Hand 9: You're the bigstack - keep up the pressure by raising his limps. K6s is a half-decent hand to do it with.Hand 11: I don't like the call with 87. Notice how villain was pretty passive PF through the first 10 hands, and suddenly he leads with a raise to 1200 from the SB. Throw away the 87.QFT. I also didn't like the call with 87, the raise could easily be from K8 or A8 and you would be drawing slim and probably broken. I personally just find it tought to play top pair weak kicker OOP. Not terrible heads up though. Link to post Share on other sites
rog 0 Posted April 20, 2007 Share Posted April 20, 2007 Hand 6...bet the turn. VALUE bet the the river.Hand 7...I bet more on the flop (pot), but I shut down on the turn if called. Hand 9...Perfect spot to let him know he should give you a walk now and then. Unless I think he's been limp-trapping OTB, I put a solid raise in here. The rest looks pretty good.Are these consecutive BTW? Link to post Share on other sites
SpiderGuard 0 Posted April 21, 2007 Author Share Posted April 21, 2007 Hand 6...bet the turn. VALUE bet the the river.Hand 7...I bet more on the flop (pot), but I shut down on the turn if called. Hand 9...Perfect spot to let him know he should give you a walk now and then. Unless I think he's been limp-trapping OTB, I put a solid raise in here. The rest looks pretty good.Are these consecutive BTW?Thanks again to all for the responses. I'll read them and process them later, kinda drunk right now.On this one - they are consecutive. I just posted all the hands from the heads up because I wanted to see if there's something I'm doing wrong that I don't even know I don't know. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Thanks again to all for the responses. I'll read them and process them later, kinda drunk right now.On this one - they are consecutive. I just posted all the hands from the heads up because I wanted to see if there's something I'm doing wrong that I don't even know I don't know.Unless villain comes over the top a lot it looks like in the two threads you might be folding the SB/button too often. 3:1 with position is too good to fold anything unless youre likely to have to ditch it to a raise. If he does come over the top to your limps a lot then you should limp a strong hand or two and re-raise him. That will slow him down and let you see more flops. Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 Unless villain comes over the top a lot it looks like in the two threads you might be folding the SB/button too often. 3:1 with position is too good to fold anything unless youre likely to have to ditch it to a raise. If he does come over the top to your limps a lot then you should limp a strong hand or two and re-raise him. That will slow him down and let you see more flops.I don't mind passing up absolute junk like 62o, 83o, etc. on the button heads up, even against a passive player preflop. Link to post Share on other sites
copernicus 0 Posted April 21, 2007 Share Posted April 21, 2007 I don't mind passing up absolute junk like 62o, 83o, etc. on the button heads up, even against a passive player preflop.I do, unless the completing the blind is big enough to hurt me but my stack isnt short enough to push with ATC, which is a pretty narrow set of situations. Of course if youre in that stack range and BB isnt raising your limps frequently to keep the pressure on you then he's just a bad HU player. Link to post Share on other sites
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