chuckpalms 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 been playing the 3.40s lately, came upon this hand earlier today - any thoughts?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)SB (t3665)BB (t1470)UTG =#A500AF(villain)/ (t2310)UTG+1 (t1820)Hero (t1465)MP2 (t1555)CO (t1350)Button (t1365)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J , J . UTG =#A500AF(villain)/ raises to t210, 1 fold, Hero calls t210, 5 folds.Flop: (t465) 4 , 9 , 6 (2 players)villain bets t1260, Hero??villain's been pretty lose up to now, played a large pot AI pf with 8s in the first level.. What do you think about pf? action on the flop? i was planning on seeing the texture then going from there, but then he forced the action.. Link to post Share on other sites
litlebullet 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 been playing the 3.40s lately, came upon this hand earlier today - any thoughts?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)SB (t3665)BB (t1470)UTG =#A500AF(villain)/ (t2310)UTG+1 (t1820)Hero (t1465)MP2 (t1555)CO (t1350)Button (t1365)Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J , J . UTG =#A500AF(villain)/ raises to t210, 1 fold, Hero calls t210, 5 folds.Flop: (t465) 4 , 9 , 6 (2 players)villain bets t1260, Hero??villain's been pretty lose up to now, played a large pot AI pf with 8s in the first level.. What do you think about pf? action on the flop? i was planning on seeing the texture then going from there, but then he forced the action../by "texture of the flop" you meant calling and making sure there would be no a, k, or q to hit the board. That didn't happen. Against this type of opponent you have to call and take his chips before someone else does. If he has an overpair to your jacks or hit a set then that's just the danger of playing with a maniac in a sng. If you aren't gonna call here then just stay out of his way and let others deal with him. Link to post Share on other sites
AKProdigy 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I think there's 5 possible hands considering its the 3.40's:1) pair of 9's, 6's, 4's with Ace kicker2) Flush Draw3) Two Overcards, he's betting because he suspects you have the same4) AA - QQ5) Trips.I think its more likely 1-3 than 4 or 5. Easy call. Link to post Share on other sites
litlebullet 0 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 obercardz. that's probably it... donk is pushing that kq. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Considering the BB is only 30 at this point, his PF raise was ridiculously large - which is usually a good sign that he's not playing AA or KK. He's probably playing either a smaller/medium pair or overcards and he made a huge PF raise from UTG in the hopes of scaring most players away. With position in your favor and no callers between you, I'd reraise him PF.He's also way overbetting the flop, which is another indication that he doesn't want action. He's trying to bully you off the pot, especially since you didn't challenge him PF. What about pushing against him on the flop? If we put him on the range of AK, AKs, AQ, AQs, KQ, KQs, your Jacks are the significant fav at this point (about 72%). I just don't see him holding AA-QQ or a flopped set here. Link to post Share on other sites
iowahawk09 0 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 You have to make this call3 Reasons Why:1. Maniacs at this level2. I told you to3. Its the correct play Link to post Share on other sites
Wingman008 0 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Out of those three reasons, I think the most compelling is #2.I also agree with above posters.Also, unless this is a ridiculously tight player, is there ever a chance we fold to it? Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 This is a bit off topic but I noticed you said in your original post that you started playing the $3.40's lately. Were you playing the lower buy-ins before? I logged on to Stars for the first time last night at about 7:45pm eastern and I couldn't seem to find any SnG's lower than $3. Do they not start until later at night, or was I just not looking in the right place? Link to post Share on other sites
AKProdigy 0 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 This is a bit off topic but I noticed you said in your original post that you started playing the $3.40's lately. Were you playing the lower buy-ins before? I logged on to Stars for the first time last night at about 7:45pm eastern and I couldn't seem to find any SnG's lower than $3. Do they not start until later at night, or was I just not looking in the right place?There are 1 dollar and 1.50 dollar buy-in SNG's as well. Should be on the same screen, maybe wait a bit for those to load up since they take a few seconds to open after one has been filled. They play pretty much the same as the 3 dollar ones (maybe slightly fewer donks lol) Link to post Share on other sites
SpiderGuard 0 Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 I think there's 5 possible hands considering its the 3.40's:1) pair of 9's, 6's, 4's with Ace kicker2) Flush Draw3) Two Overcards, he's betting because he suspects you have the same4) AA - QQ5) Trips.I think its more likely 1-3 than 4 or 5. Easy call.I think it's more like 1 than all the rest combined. A/9 plays the hand exactly like this. +1 on the call. Link to post Share on other sites
chuckpalms 0 Posted April 8, 2007 Author Share Posted April 8, 2007 thanks for all the responses - i like the results and that's how i played it... lost to KK, which i thought was a weird play, but i posted it so that i don't become results oriented.. jmbreslin - previously i'd been playing a wide range of games... i'd worked my roll up to like 1700 at one point and then didn't know how to control it... i played 27s, then 16s, then 6.50s... you see the progression, lol. then i started trolin 2+2 and figured starting at the 3.40s was the best place to start applying new tactics i learned. i don't think there are sngs lower than 3.40s, in fact i'm almost positive - i've never seen $1 sngs unless maybe they're multi-table sngs? 3.40s are definitely well beatable tho and they don't really require a roll unless you're gonna play 7 at a time Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted April 9, 2007 Share Posted April 9, 2007 Yep it's an insta-call there with an overpair. Your opponent is a moron for playing kings like that, against a relatively sane opponent (like yourself) he's only getting paid off if you have QQ-TT. Link to post Share on other sites
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