Would You Call In This Spot?

[Big Jono 0]

Havent been sitting at this table for too long and only reads I got is Tranb is playing a bit loose, doesnt strike me a a overly tough player, straightwalk no reads at all.PokerStars Game #9247372528: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/04/04 - 12:19:29 (ET)Table 'Eri' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: Pumuckel1 ($105.55 in chips) Seat 2: swackman ($102.75 in chips) Seat 3: Damnocracy ($71.05 in chips) Seat 4: straightwalk ($62.35 in chips) Seat 5: Arlequin333 ($109.85 in chips) Seat 6: big_jono ($161.30 in chips) Seat 7: Pandochat ($112.40 in chips) Seat 8: betgo ($106.25 in chips) Seat 9: tranb111 ($78 in chips) big_jono: posts small blind $0.50Pandochat: posts big blind $1*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to big_jono [Ah Qh]betgo: folds tranb111: calls $1Pumuckel1: folds swackman: folds Damnocracy: folds straightwalk: calls $1Arlequin333: folds big_jono: raises $3 to $4Pandochat: folds tranb111: calls $3straightwalk: calls $3*** FLOP *** [8h 4h 2s]big_jono: bets $4tranb111: calls $4straightwalk: raises $4 to $8big_jono: calls $4tranb111: raises $66 to $74 and is all-instraightwalk: calls $50.35 and is all-in........

[rdtedm 0]

It looks like the person who already called is playing a set (with the min raise and call of an all-in), so at best you're drawing to 8 outs for the nuts. I'm guessing the person who originally re-raised all-in is on a draw, but could also be playing a scared two pair or set. You're getting about as good of odds as you can with two people in the pot, and if you hit your outs, you'll be getting paid off nicely. I'm calling because on the chance that my reads are wrong and both have overpairs to the board, you're drawing to an additional 6 outs, making this a good call.I've also been known to chase.

[Zach6668 513]

http://www.neildewhurst.com/hand-converter/Convert please.

[iowahawk09 0]

Easy fold, if he has a set, and the board pairs your done for.Not to mention you have to still hit your heart and avoid that happening to win

[Naismith 0]

http://www.scientology.org/Yes, convert please.As far as the hand is concerned, I think you need to bet more on this flop. And I would call here, yes. The reasons, getting good odds, overs might be good, their stacks aren't huge. The best reason is because the heart is coming. Nutz, baby!

[Zach6668 513]

http://www.scientology.org/Yes, convert please.

Sorry... not sure what exactly to convert from.

[Naismith 0]

Sorry... not sure what exactly to convert from.

Is Posting Naziism a religion?EDIT: justjokingpleasedontdeletemefearlessleaderHeil Zach!

[linkwood 0]

i think you're preflop raise is too small also. you're in the small blind and you gave the first limper 2.5 to 1 to call. since he's loose, per your read, he will likely call. then the second limper gets over 3 to 1, so he will likely call. then you're OOP with AQ against two opponents that you don't have a read on. not a good situation. as played though i have to call here for the reasons others have stated.

[meservery 0]

i think you're preflop raise is too small also. you're in the small blind and you gave the first limper 2.5 to 1 to call. since he's loose, per your read, he will likely call. then the second limper gets over 3 to 1, so he will likely call. then you're OOP with AQ against two opponents that you don't have a read on. not a good situation. as played though i have to call here for the reasons others have stated.

My new rule is to never raise from the small blind with anything less than AA-QQ, AK. Is this a leak?I'd just limp here from the SB. And then try to get my money in after seeing the flop. All of it!

[mtdesmoines 2]

My new rule is to never raise from the small blind with anything less than AA-QQ, AK. Is this a leak?I'd just limp here from the SB. And then try to get my money in after seeing the flop. All of it!

Your new rule sucks. SB PF is position. Use it and you might not find yourself in this position. But here we are, so... The money is right -- you have to call here. You can't stress about someone hitting a boat. If it happens, it happens. But you might not be in bad shape. For example, if you're up against a set of 8s and two pair, all the full house outs are just about all claimed, and you're looking REAL GOOD for the flush since the hole cards can only be non-flush colors, which tilts the deck in your favor. If you're up against a pair/flush draw, you have overs and the bigger flush draw -- also in good shape. You could also be up against a pushed OE straight draw and lower flush draw -- you will be ahead with A high if neither draw hits.

[Big Jono 0]

THanks for your replies, I did call but didnt catch a heart which is why im questioning my decision I guess.big_jono: calls $66*** TURN *** [8h 4h 2s] [Kc]*** RIVER *** [8h 4h 2s Kc] [Jc]*** SHOW DOWN ***big_jono: shows [Ah Qh] (high card Ace)tranb111: shows [7d 7c] (a pair of Sevens)tranb111 collected $31.30 from side potstraightwalk: shows [2d 2h] (three of a kind, Deuces)straightwalk collected $185.05 from main pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $219.35 Main pot $185.05. Side pot $31.30. | Rake $3 Board [8h 4h 2s Kc Jc]Seat 1: Pumuckel1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: swackman folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Damnocracy folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: straightwalk showed [2d 2h] and won ($185.05) with three of a kind, DeucesSeat 5: Arlequin333 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: big_jono (small blind) showed [Ah Qh] and lost with high card AceSeat 7: Pandochat (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: betgo folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: tranb111 showed [7d 7c] and won ($31.30) with a pair of Sevens

[mtdesmoines 2]

Seat 4: straightwalk showed [2d 2h] and won ($185.05) with three of a kind, DeucesSeat 9: tranb111 showed [7d 7c] and won ($31.30) with a pair of Sevens

I know what the dueces are doing in the hand, but the 7s?

[GABMAD 0]

Havent been sitting at this table for too long and only reads I got is Tranb is playing a bit loose, doesnt strike me a a overly tough player, straightwalk no reads at all.PokerStars Game #9247372528: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2007/04/04 - 12:19:29 (ET)Table 'Eri' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: Pumuckel1 ($105.55 in chips) Seat 2: swackman ($102.75 in chips) Seat 3: Damnocracy ($71.05 in chips) Seat 4: straightwalk ($62.35 in chips) Seat 5: Arlequin333 ($109.85 in chips) Seat 6: big_jono ($161.30 in chips) Seat 7: Pandochat ($112.40 in chips) Seat 8: betgo ($106.25 in chips) Seat 9: tranb111 ($78 in chips) big_jono: posts small blind $0.50Pandochat: posts big blind $1*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to big_jono [Ah Qh]betgo: folds tranb111: calls $1Pumuckel1: folds swackman: folds Damnocracy: folds straightwalk: calls $1Arlequin333: folds big_jono: raises $3 to $4Pandochat: folds tranb111: calls $3straightwalk: calls $3*** FLOP *** [8h 4h 2s]big_jono: bets $4tranb111: calls $4straightwalk: raises $4 to $8big_jono: calls $4tranb111: raises $66 to $74 and is all-instraightwalk: calls $50.35 and is all-in........

Raise to 5 or 6 preflop. Bet out flop about 8-10 (given the small raise preflop), and whether to call or not is a tough spot. Reads?

[Big Jono 0]

Yea the guy with the sevens was strange, I did actually figure I had six more outs against him as I just needed to pair one of my two over cards, the other call worried me but at the same time gave me the pot size to chase. I didnt have any reads really which is why im a donk. Ok, have already taken some advice onboard from this and have increased my preflop raise in similar situations.