88 In Position

[Wingman008 0]

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Hero (t2175)CO (t1330)Button (t2475)SB (t1130)BB (t8340)UTG (t3025)UTG+1 (t1710)MP1 (t1775)MP2 (t1855)Preflop: Hero is MP3 with 8, 8. 4 folds, Hero calls t50, CO calls t50, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: (t200) 4, 5, 4(4 players)SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t125, CO folds, SB folds, BB calls t125.Turn: (t450) A(2 players)BB checks, Hero checks.River: (t450) K(2 players)BB bets t1000, Hero ?.EDIT: I realized after I posted that I wasn't oop

[Zach6668 513]

Fold.Well played.Btw, fixed your title.

[copernicus 0]

I agree with the whole line. theres way too much out there that beats you to get any more aggressive or to call the big bet

[iowahawk09 0]

Without a doubt....FOLD

[mjd 0]

You played it well.I sometimes open preflop with a raise instead. Then, with that flop, a c-bet.Either way works.-M

[tskillz187 0]

I definitely raise this PF.

[ChrisRichey 1]

In MP3 I would probably raise this pf, but you played the hand well. There's nothing you beat on the river, easy fold.

[shpaget 0]

Does no one find this overbet from a massive chipleader grossly suspicious?How big a bet would you call on the river? Wouldn't it be prudent to bet that amount on the turn then? In case he is still on some kind of draw?I can't see the river improving his hand...so it's whether or not he beat you on the turn.

[ChrisRichey 1]

The overbet is suspicious, but there is absolutely nothing we beat here, especially in a limped pot.

[ramenandeggs 0]

i raise pf. i'd do about the same on flop and turn. easy fold on river, no need to get frisky with a hero call on a two-overs+3-flush+paired board.

[shpaget 0]

The overbet is suspicious, but there is absolutely nothing we beat here, especially in a limped pot.

Except for a bluff - stone cold, or missed flush or straight draws.Or, the guy's been a plain donkey and got his big chipstack through plain dumb luck, his range might be literally anything - I would need to know how he got such a big stack, and how he's been playing to this point - he may have called KQ, with no diamond, on the flop...he may have called QJ, with a diamond.He could be bluffing with 66/77.He could be value betting 66/77.

[BeaverStyle 1]

I'd probably raise this preflop, but as played the river is an easy fold. He was probably checking the turn to check/raise us, and seeing as we checked behind, he's hoping we have a lower flush or 3 of a kind or something that could possibly look him up. As suspicious as his river bet is, you only have 175 invested, fold and move on.

[shpaget 0]

I'd probably raise this preflop, but as played the river is an easy fold. He was probably checking the turn to check/raise us, and seeing as we checked behind, he's hoping we have a lower flush or 3 of a kind or something that could possibly look him up. As suspicious as his river bet is, you only have 175 invested, fold and move on.

And this is why I ask if it's prudent to bet the turn, IF, there is an amount you would have been willing to call on the river.

[BeaverStyle 1]

And this is why I ask if it's prudent to bet the turn, IF, there is an amount you would have been willing to call on the river.

I think since hero didn't raise preflop, we obviously can't even put the BB on a hand (not that a MP raise would make BB fold any marginal hand, not sure if he's the type of player to defend w/ a wide range)Therefore, after our flop bet gets called and the flush fills up.. I think we give up there. Villain could have trips, the flush, and ace high flush draw (which he now has AA on the turn)... I don't think it would be horrible to put out another feeler bet on the turn, and fold to aggression.

[DudeSurprise 0]

I agree with the majority of the replies.I'm always raising this PF, as it defines villain's hands a little better for spots like this. Turn check is standard when the obvious draw hits as betting is basically turning your hand into a semi bluff and you're never calling a raise...you may be losing value to a lesser two pair, but this is such a marginal situation that getting to show down cheaply seems like the priority. I'm never calling this bet on the river without a good read that villain overbet bluffs. It could be a slow played 4 trying to make up value or a flush hoping you have the 4 and checked because of the flush. Could even be something like K5 that just improved. Missed straight draws might bluff the river and sometimes dude is on some equally retarded play, but I don't think it's a profitable call against most villains.