Zach6668 513 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Good story. 2 of my families would be from thunder bay. Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 What's a tougher trivia question for quizzing a real hockey fan? Try to name 5 sets of brothers currently playing in the NHL (not counting the Sedin twins), or try to name 15 current NHL backup goalies?I think given enough time (like 5-7 minutes) I could do both without cheating.Jordan Stall-Eric StallJordan Stall-Marc StallEric Stall-Marc StallAnthony Stewart-Chris StewartMilan Michalek-Zybnik MichalekJordie Benn- Jamie BennMikko Koivu-Saku KoivuNick Foligno-Marcus Foligno Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Spoiler tags! <grin> Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I noticed it took me 3min to come up with 5sets of bros. Staal, Sedin, koivu, schenn, foligno. I know it would take me less for the 15 backups. I could prob name all 30. That's not a brag, that's me hesitantly admitting I'm a hockey pool nerd. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 The brothers I know I can do because I looked them up before asking the question. Backup goalies off the top of my head: Scott Clemmensen, Anders Lindback, Jhonas Enroth, Cory Schnieder, Moose Hedburg, Jason LaBarbera, Dan Ellis, Brent Johnson, Marty Biron, Dustin Tokarski, Ben Bishop, Brian Elliott (or Halak), Peter Budaj, Devan Dubnyk (or Khabi), JS Giguere, Richard Bachman, Chris Mason, Sergei Bobrovsky, Josh Harding, Thomas Greiss, Joey MacDonald, Jonas Gustavsson, Ray Emery. Teams I couldn't come up with: Columbus, Calgary, Carolina, Islanders (it's Kevin something, although I suppose I could be cheap and just say DiPietro) Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Oh, and LA's backup's name always escapes me...which is stupid because he's one of the big name backups. Bernier...just came to me. The other two teams I missed (had to look them up) are Boston (which is just dumb, it's Tukka Rask) and Washington (another easy one...it's a revolving door of Holtby, Neuvirth or Vokoun). Link to post Share on other sites
fryer98 30 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I could try both next time I'm sober.I can't wait to see your trivia skills in August! Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 What's a tougher trivia question for quizzing a real hockey fan? Try to name 5 sets of brothers currently playing in the NHL (not counting the Sedin twins), or try to name 15 current NHL backup goalies?I think given enough time (like 5-7 minutes) I could do both without cheating. Brothers: Eric, Jordan, Mark StaalTaylor, Tom PyattCal, Ryan O'ReillySergei, Andrei KostitsynChris, Anthony StewartZbynek, Milan MichalekJamie, Jordie Benn I have a bunch more in my mind of guys who were in the NHL, or who had brothers in the minors, etc.==============Back Up Goalies: Johnson, Bobrovsky, Hedberg, Biron, (Islanders?)Neuvirth, Mason, Garon, Clemmenson, PetersRask, Gustavsson, Budaj, Auld, (Sabres?)Elliot, Emery, Conklin, Sanford, LindbackKarlsson, Schneider, Dubnyk, Harding, GiguereGreiss, Bernier, Labarbera, (Stars?), (Ducks?) Took me 12 minutes to do all of this, and win $148 at poker. Can picture the guys I'm missing, but not coming immediately to mind. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 22, 2012 Share Posted April 22, 2012 Why is it that the US' domination of the U18 tournament hasn't translated to eventual dominance of the U20 tournament? 4 straight gold medals now for the US in U18, yet only 1 gold and 1 bronze in the same span at U20. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted April 22, 2012 Author Share Posted April 22, 2012 Why is it that the US' domination of the U18 tournament hasn't translated to eventual dominance of the U20 tournament? 4 straight gold medals now for the US in U18, yet only 1 gold and 1 bronze in the same span at U20.Just a guess, but perhaps other countries don't place much emphasis on it. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Just a guess, but perhaps other countries don't place much emphasis on it.That would make the most sense, I suppose, although Canada sent all their top U18 guys to play and only managed a Bronze. You just know the same kids are going to be right in the mix for gold at the U20 next year and the year after. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Why is it that the US' domination of the U18 tournament hasn't translated to eventual dominance of the U20 tournament? 4 straight gold medals now for the US in U18, yet only 1 gold and 1 bronze in the same span at U20.Because Canada's best players are still playing in the CHL playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The NHL remain a second tier league until refereeing gains some vague sense of consistency. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,320 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The NHL remain a second tier league until refereeing gains some vague sense of consistency.Officiating in all sports is horrible.NBA refs cheat all the time for certain teams and players.Baseball umpires are the most arrogant lard asses in the WorldBad officiating isn't just an NHL issue. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Because Canada's best players are still playing in the CHL playoffs.Thank you DobberProspects.com. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 NBA refs cheat all the time for certain teams and players.I'll never forgive Bill Simmons for making this line of thinking so legitimized. I don't believe the above is true. At all.I think NHL playoff refereeing has been generally fine. I don't know what the front office is doing with the suspensions but the in-game stuff seems ok. People's expectations are the problem; officiating in all sports is not horrible it is just a very difficult job especially for basketball or hockey. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 The NHL remain a second tier league until refereeing gains some vague sense of consistency.I'm also going to disagree with this. Refereeing in the NBA is much worse, and much less consistent. Considering the amount of calls, I'd say MLB umps do a great job, but there are far fewer judgment calls in the MLB, so fans get to see mistakes much more black and white. They're all second-tier leagues compared to the NFL, but I strongly feel officiating has nothing to do with it. Hockey is a second-tier sport in the US (really, third-tier, as NFL is #1, then NBA/MLB, then NHL/soccer) because it is a hell of a lot warmer, its expensive as hell to play and it is a game with a long history focused in a different country. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Ah, the annual rite of crapping on the ref's. Isn't this about the time each year where I change my avatar to a ref's uniform?Also, I cant help wonder if the Senators game 6 loss has anything to do with the statement. The NHL remain a second tier league until refereeing gains some vague sense of consistency. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Nothing says "**** You" quite like all the game changing decisions of football/soccer officials, esp in the World Cup. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Also, I cant help wonder if the Senators game 6 loss has anything to do with the statement.It's been a poorly reffed series all around (what is called, what is not called) and yesterday was the icing on the cake. The kicked in goal was just NHL's way of say "I'm sorry, you deserved better".But to answer the question -- statement because of game 6: yes. But I also realized years ago that we need coaches challenges etc because refs are not infallible. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Officiating has approximately 0% influence on popularity.Gambling has infinitely more influence. Especially when it comes to the NFL. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,320 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Does Luongo have any trade value ? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Re: Luongo: AbsolutelyRe: Officiating: I hate hate hate complaining about it. Nobody is out to get anybody, it's consistent enough that it balances out in the long run. We get the benefit of slow-mo, HD replays of everything, they have to make calls in real time, from wherever they happen to be on the ice, and be looking at it. Yes, we could make better rules regarding what can and can't be reviewed via video, but the refs do a fantastic job, given out difficult it is. People always complain about the refs, but it remains these guys are the best in the world at their job. It's not like they can just replace them.In the end, bad calls/bounces/etc all balance out in the long run. Your team plays harder, it draws more penalties.However, the one gripe I would have, is the refs tend to officiate to certain situations in the game. Like, maybe this is conspiracy thinking and the exact opposite of what I just said, it just feels like in one-goal games, last 5 minutes or so, it's pretty much everything goes, and the team down a goal can get away with murder, while the team up a goal has to walk on egg shells. It's entirely possible that this is because the team behind is usually throwing everything at the other team to try to tie it, so they're more likely to draw a penalty.Also, the notion that penalties and power plays in a game have to be even is silly. Commentators talk like, oh, they just had 2 straight PPs, better be careful now because the refs will be looking to get them back. Wtf is that shit? Call the game in a vacuum. The windbags like Tortorella go out after the game and whine when they're team got 2 PPs to someone else's 6. Like, that shit isn't supposed to be even in the short term that is one NHL game. Teams with the puck, and teams that work hard get more PPs. They SHOULD be drawing more PP time. Stop trying to bitch about it not being evened out within the game. It's fundamentally wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted April 24, 2012 Share Posted April 24, 2012 Ya if one team is dominating an entire game which does happen, why should pp opportunities be even?If I was a ref in the playoffs you would have to take away a serious scoring chance in order to get a 5-3 pp. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted April 25, 2012 Author Share Posted April 25, 2012 It turned out Tomas Vokoun wasn't that much of a bargain after all. Link to post Share on other sites
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