Dubey 1,035 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Crosby Not even close to resuming contact. No timeline for his return.Doesn't sound good, I hope he plays this season. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 The whole press conference sounded pretty optimistic to me. May not be ready to play on October 6th, but there's no way of knowing either way, according to both doctors. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 dchesnokov Dmitry Chesnokov The updated list of the dead in the crash now includes Ruslan Salei. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Guess the Penguins fan: Looks like any games played this season would be a bonus. Doesn't sound good, I hope he plays this season. The whole press conference sounded pretty optimistic to me. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 What I got from the press conference:Sidney is nowhere near ready for NHL games. We will be EXTREMELY cautious in his return. Time table on return from my read:Minimum 6 months , that is optimistic..There is a good chance he will miss the season. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 What I got from the press conference:Sidney is nowhere near ready for NHL games. We will be EXTREMELY cautious in his return. Time table on return from my read:Minimum 6 months , that is optimistic..There is a good chance he will miss the season.I took away that he's not ready, won't play until he's 100% and nobody has any idea when he will be 100%, but they're almost certain he will get to 100% at some point. I wonder if they felt the same about Marc Savard? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 He said himself he will likely play this season...I don't get it. I listened to every word in the conference and all of the questions after. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I took away that he's not ready, won't play until he's 100% and nobody has any idea when he will be 100%, but they're almost certain he will get to 100% at some point. I wonder if they felt the same about Marc Savard?They asked him if he would consider retiring, he said no..At some point it has to cross his mind..24 years old, rest of his life ahead of him. All the money in the world..Can make more just based on his popularity..He has won a cup, gold medal and all the trophies he needs.Why risk his late 40s and 50s to play another 10 years of hockey which in reality will be pretty tough to surpass what he already has in the game.I get the fact that he is a competitor and he needs to play, but it has to have crossed his mind. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 He said himself he will likely play this season...I don't get it. I listened to every word in the conference and all of the questions after.With serious concussions you can't really know much of anything other than he can't play now. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 With serious concussions you can't really know much of anything other than he can't play now.I agree. It wouldn't surprise me if they announced he was ready to play come Christmas time.It also wouldn't surprise me if he was exactly in the same condition this time next year.It sucks because he is a helluva hockey player and I enjoy watching him play. I am shocked more hasn't been made about the decisions that have led to his injury. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Like was said, with concussion, there's no timetable. Its just a guess, based on no facts.The one thing I haven't heard though is, if he woke up tomorrow with no symptoms, and then started to train/skate....and experienced no symptoms, what then? How long before he could practice+play in the NHL? Im guessing maybe that would only be like 3 weeks/1 month, just to make sure nothing pops up. So then, really, he could be playing game #1 for all we know. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Like was said, with concussion, there's no timetable. Its just a guess, based on no facts.The one thing I haven't heard though is, if he woke up tomorrow with no symptoms, and then started to train/skate....and experienced no symptoms, what then? How long before he could practice+play in the NHL? Im guessing maybe that would only be like 3 weeks/1 month, just to make sure nothing pops up. So then, really, he could be playing game #1 for all we know.The question i have is , how do you know you are ready for an elbow from Chris Pronger to the head, until you actually get hit by Chris Pronger?I would assume that after a serious injury like this, you are NEVER 100%. Anyone can go out and train and skate, its the NHL contact that is the problem. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Nauseating:Russian Plane Not Up To Standards Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 The question i have is , how do you know you are ready for an elbow from Chris Pronger to the head, until you actually get hit by Chris Pronger?I would assume that after a serious injury like this, you are NEVER 100%. Anyone can go out and train and skate, its the NHL contact that is the problem.well, I think they said he has no permanent damage, or more like, no signs of trauma. Kypreos was saying how on his last scan, it still showed signs of trauma. (how scary is that?)So Im guessing that if the usual thing is to go 1 month symptom free, and then see what happens, then thats what they would do with Crosby. Go a month, then clear for contact.Any NHL player could get hit in the head by Pronger tomorrow, and never play again if the concussion is bad enough. Take a look at the Perron injury. He got "accidentally" clipped by Joe Thornton, and hasnt played since. Fluke thing, and who knows when he'll be back, and they are already saying he wont start the year.Here's a thought....maybe they should outlaw Pronger from hitting guys in the head in the first place! Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Very good points Arp..I guess they are trying to get rid of these hits to the head, but still happening. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Nauseating:Russian Plane Not Up To Standards Ok, Ill be the ass who says it. Im guessing many N.American/Euro NHL'ers will think twice about going there now.First the issues with the Cherapanov death, now this. How much is fact, we dont know, but its hard to imagine anyone doesnt think of this the next time they get a KHL offer. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ok, Ill be the ass who says it. Im guessing many N.American/Euro NHL'ers will think twice about going there now.First the issues with the Cherapanov death, now this. How much is fact, we dont know, but its hard to imagine anyone doesnt think of this the next time they get a KHL offer.They asked Ray Emery this very question and he said he would still go over.EDIT: But he's a goalie and they're all ****ing crazy anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Its paranoia to think this will happen to you, but you really are gonna have a tough time convincing a family man to move his whole crew over there, just to make some extra money. Then again, if the only other option is making $80k in the AHL, and the KHL offers you $250,000....hard to turn down I suppose. If your an established star who has already made his millions, whats the point of taking a risk? Love of the game I guess.Like, why is Brent Sopel still playing? He must really love the game or loves the idea of living somewhere else. If I didnt have a family, I would love the idea of working abroad. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Its paranoia to think this will happen to you, but you really are gonna have a tough time convincing a family man to move his whole crew over there, just to make some extra money. Then again, if the only other option is making $80k in the AHL, and the KHL offers you $250,000....hard to turn down I suppose. If your an established star who has already made his millions, whats the point of taking a risk? Love of the game I guess.Like, why is Brent Sopel still playing? He must really love the game or loves the idea of living somewhere else. If I didnt have a family, I would love the idea of working abroad.It's really hard to give up the game, and in some cases, the income. But the players that play over there (the north americans) all have horror stories about playing there, including crazy scary plane stories. That hasn't stopped a steady flow from going. This one, however, may get the families to say no way.. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ok, Ill be the ass who says it. Im guessing many N.American/Euro NHL'ers will think twice about going there now.First the issues with the Cherapanov death, now this. How much is fact, we dont know, but its hard to imagine anyone doesnt think of this the next time they get a KHL offer.Ya, the talking heads on the radio were going on about how every hockey player will thinking about this blah lbah blha.I'm thinking ... it's a shite Russian plane of which 9/200 (max) have crashed. Please don't put that pos on the same level as a Boeing or Airbus. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 "Doomed Lokomotiv Yaroslavl Plane Was Banned In Europe Due To Safety Concerns"http://deadspin.com/5838024/"The Russian Federation initially promised they would bring the aircraft up to date, but later decided against it. All planes owned by charter company YAK Service have been prohibited from flying to countries within the European community, which does not include Belarus, today's destination.Preliminary legislation is currently making its way through labyrinthine Russian law that would bring the country's aviation standards up to the rest of the world's, in a "gradual reform." Currently Russia and the former Soviet States have the world's worst air safety record, with 13 times more incidents than the international average."So uh... who's going to Sochi? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Lets hope today is a better day than yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 **** this shit, I'm going to Five Guys. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 **** this shit, I'm going to Five Guys.*jealous* Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I tried to talk him out of it, with minimal (no) success. Link to post Share on other sites
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