GWCGWC 83 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 After 10 and half years after the incident the Moore/Bertuzzi case has been settled out of court.. I have nothing to add other than Bertuzzi is a flucking cnt. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 MoniKa Platek @MonikaPlatek now So Bertuzzi's lawyer said there's a settlement...Moore's brother said there isn't...and the Canucks just confirmed there IS. What a mess. Link to post Share on other sites
iBeaver 409 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I like Bert. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Whats with this expansion report..Reputable source saying league will expand to 4 cities including Toronto. League denying it Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Whats with this expansion report..Reputable source saying league will expand to 4 cities including Toronto. League denying it Move 2 teams from the East to the West who are losing a lot of money and add 2 expansion teams bringing the league up to 32 teams is my bet. Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Whats with this expansion report..Reputable source saying league will expand to 4 cities including Toronto. League denying it Imagine watching the Leafs in Vegas. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Imagine watching the Leafs in Vegas. Jagr will love it Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I bet we see LV and Seattle, plus Florida finds a way out of their lease to move to Quebc City. Toronto has to wait for another east team to fail. Florida's lease is until 2028, fwiw. 34 teams is so dumb that the nhl could possibly do it. 32 obv the sweet spot. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Imagine watching the Leafs in Vegas. Imagine watching any real game in Vegas? Its so cool idea... Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I bet we see LV and Seattle, plus Florida finds a way out of their lease to move to Quebc City. Toronto has to wait for another east team to fail. Florida's lease is until 2028, fwiw. 34 teams is so dumb that the nhl could possibly do it. 32 obv the sweet spot. Guys like Colton Orr will be happy... Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Bettman is greedy..Expanding the league by 4 teams makes no sense, he just wants the franchise fee obviously. the talent pool will be so watered down.... Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 There's enough to do 32. Think of how many teams have those guys on the farm that are "ready" but need a break or injury or whatever. The top end talent is watered down, sure, but there's average talent to go around. Colton Orr is still not an nhler. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Everything is going to turn around in a big hurry for the Islanders once Wang and Snow are out of the picture. Move to Brooklyn, new owner, competent mgmt, it will make a tremendous difference. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 trying to think what cap ramifications this would have...If they get all that expansion money, there will be more HRR, but how will the bottom teams spend? You will have guys like Grabovski being overpaid..NHLPA should be happy, the NHL is happy obviously, I am not sure how it affects fans of teams like ours... I guess its a good thing Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I don't think expansion fees are HRR. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 And as usual, nobody cares about the floor so stop worrying about it. Grabovski isn't overpaid, lots of people at his level are underpaid. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Everything is going to turn around in a big hurry for the Islanders once Wang and Snow are out of the picture. Move to Brooklyn, new owner, competent mgmt, it will make a tremendous difference. howdy stranger 1 Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 And as usually, nobody cares about the floor so stop worrying about it. Grabovski isn't overpaid, lots of people at his level are underpaid. Its your opinion..Grabovski signed that contract because the Islanders have to get to floor..Its a real issue, I know you dont agree...But look at the numbers. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 And as usual, nobody cares about the floor so stop worrying about it. Grabovski isn't overpaid, lots of people at his level are underpaid. The floor is more important for the overall economic health of the league than the cap is Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 From my calculation, Grabovski is making $5.5 from the Islanders, plus roughly $1.8 from the Leafs.. Thats $7.3 million this year, for a guy that will score 15 goals, miss 20-25 games for toe injuries Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 His buyout salary is completely irrelevant to his market value. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 The floor is more important for the overall economic health of the league than the cap is I agree that it's important, but my point is that Serge typically hyperbolizes it's effect. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 His buyout salary is completely irrelevant to his market value. If that were true, is there any way Ehrhoff signs with Pittsburgh for only $4 mill? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 I agree that it's important, but my point is that Serge typically hyperbolizes it's effect. You use hyberbole a lot...It doesnt improve your argument..The floor is a true market force that has increased salaries for certain players Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 His buyout salary is completely irrelevant to his market value. I was just stating a fact regarding Grabo..His $5 million salary is way too high...Only a team like the Islanders, Florida or Calgary will give him that money, because they have to spend it...If there is no floor Grabo doesnt get $5 mill IMO.. Link to post Share on other sites
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