rocksquid 50 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Rangers taking it to Philly this aft. Link to post Share on other sites
rocksquid 50 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 What a goal by Moore Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 What a goal by Moore nice story this year that's he's back playing well after taking the year off Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Colorado was offside just prior to the tying goal. It was close. When's the last time you saw a player get called for unsportsmanlike conduct for snowing the goalie in the regular season? Same question but in the playoffs? There were other non calls against the AVS in this game that were potential game changers so I guess it evens out. Link to post Share on other sites
rocksquid 50 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Has Patrick explained his reasoning for the empty net with 2 or 3 mins left? Seems to be working as strategy, maybe something he's learned with all the playing years. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 It was close. When's the last time you saw a player get called for unsportsmanlike conduct for snowing the goalie in the regular season? Same question but in the playoffs? There were other non calls against the AVS in this game that were potential game changers so I guess it evens out. the refs were NBA quality at the end of the game. Just a lot of horrible calls both ways. Link to post Share on other sites
rocksquid 50 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Worked for Philly here with 2 mins to get within 1 Link to post Share on other sites
rocksquid 50 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Now for Game 2 of the day. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Roy is fine being unconventional so I don't know why he hasn't instructed the players to skate back and get a stick from the bench when a player losses a stick in the AVS zone. Has Patrick explained his reasoning for the empty net with 2 or 3 mins left? Seems to be working as strategy, maybe something he's learned with all the playing years. Not really anything beyond a standard response you would expect. the refs were NBA quality at the end of the game. Just a lot of horrible calls both ways. Agreed. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 When's the last time you saw a player get called for unsportsmanlike conduct for snowing the goalie in the regular season? Same question but in the playoffs? I dunno about the regular season but Nick Foligno got one in game 3 of Pens/CBJ Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Don't know if Roy is actually aware of this, but there has been some work done (by Tyler Dellow, I think) where they determined the optimal time to pull your goalie and figured out that basically every nhl coach was too conservative with it. Everyone would have a better chance of winning with an earlier pull. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 http://people.stat.sfu.ca/~tim/papers/goalie.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Wasn't Dellow, it was an actual scholarly research study published in an academic journal. Link to post Share on other sites
Untilted 158 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Colorado was offside just prior to the tying goal. Yes it was offside but it was close. What is 10 times worse is the NON call when Minny had a gimme chance for an empty net and the Col player held the Minny player. I am to lazy to look up who the players where Link to post Share on other sites
Untilted 158 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Don't know if Roy is actually aware of this, but there has been some work done (by Tyler Dellow, I think) where they determined the optimal time to pull your goalie and figured out that basically every nhl coach was too conservative with it. Everyone would have a better chance of winning with an earlier pull. Most teams pull there goalie around the 90 second mark. Ask yourself this? How many times do you see a team down 1 who score during the 2 or so minutes prior to pulling there goalie? Not many. Another thing, when you have a team down 1 and they get a PP with say 4 minutes left, I really think a goalie should be pulled. That PP is your chance. Go for it. But you rarely see it Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I dunno about the regular season but Nick Foligno got one in game 3 of Pens/CBJ I didn't know this. If they don't call it in the regular season then they should NEVER call it in the playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 You see it in the regular season. It's pretty standard that it's an unacceptable practice. Refs will call blatant ones. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I only watch avalanche games....every single one of em, and I don't think I've ever seen this called. It's possible I'm just forgetting since it would have been in an insignificant moment. Homer goggles says the ice Landeskog shaved into the air went over Kuemper's shoulder and didn't hit him in the face. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 It's not particularly frequent. Players don't snow goalies all that often. It happens and gets called though. It's usually some plug skating really hard towards the goalie like 5 seconds after the whistle and so clearly doing it to snow him. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 It's not particularly frequent. Players don't snow goalies all that often. It happens and gets called though. It's usually some plug skating really hard towards the goalie like 5 seconds after the whistle and so clearly doing it to snow him. Quite often too it's the result of a ref warning both teams. That's why sometimes the one extra face wash gets called. Because the ref has told the players clearly 'next one who does that is going'. That's why I like US broadcasts for that one single reason: their camera over the glass behind the net is live miked. You get to hear everything..... Link to post Share on other sites
rocksquid 50 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Looks like Chicago just locked up a trip to the next round. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I dunno about the regular season but Nick Foligno got one in game 3 of Pens/CBJ Nick Foligno gets goaltending interference penalties just skating across the blue line. Maybe the refs are on edge because he goes to the net so hard but he gets called on a lot of stuff other players get away with. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 The Blues are the new Sharks. Well, Unless the Sharks manage to blow this series against the Kings, in which case the Sharks are still the Sharks, or something. What I'm trying to say is I'm going to stop picking the Blues to win the cup every year. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 The Blues are the new Sharks. Well, Unless the Sharks manage to blow this series against the Kings, in which case the Sharks are still the Sharks, or something. What I'm trying to say is I'm going to stop picking the Blues to win the cup every year. I wonder if this is Hitchcock related. I don't have stats (Zach?) but it seems to me that Hitchcock teams struggle in the playoffs. I've thought before that Hitchcock teaches his teams to play playoff style hockey all season, and that leaves them unable to crank it up a gear for the playoffs? Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 I think the Sharks are going to blow this. They were talking on the radio the other day after game 4 that LA had too much pride to be swept....and I started to think about all the times SJ has blown it, and thought....ya, its gonna be the final nail in the coffin for this team, and they are going to lose 4 straight to LA. been looking for a LA to win series bet on bet365 since then, and havent found it. Link to post Share on other sites
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