MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Don't have the link, but there was a counter argument in the same paper, with doctors' opinions. I haven't read either. My concern really isn't just with the NHL players health....its beyond that. I mean, I think its awful these guys are getting their head bashed in for money, but I can only imagine how much worse it is in the non-pros, or semi-pros, where 18yr olds are getting smashed in by 22yr olds, and guys with no income to live off of for the rest of their lives are damaging their brains. At least George Parros has a nest egg, what about the poor goon in OHL, then ECHL, who wont be able to work in his 40's cause light causes him migraines. I still think fighting is barbaric, stupid, and ruins the game. I have little to no interest in watching a fight. Burke is smart, and articulate. I can understand his argument. Personally, I'm still not buying it that without fighting, this game turns into a free for all. But he's played the pro game and been around it forever. I'm just some guy who watches it on tv. Link to post Share on other sites
The Machine 210 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Personally, I'm still not buying it that without fighting, this game turns into a free for all. I hate this argument so much. If I was a hockey player, I would hate it even more. "You guys aren't capable of controlling yourself without the fear of getting punched." If guys are fighting because an opponent is taking shots at them, then those shots should be penalized if they are illegal. If they are within the rules of the game, you need to suck it up and take it. I also hate his arguments about being more afraid of boarding and other dangerous acts. The presence of worse infractions doesn't make lesser infractions acceptable. Finally, the idea that the players know the risks is pretty much meaningless. To use his own example, players know the risk of being checked from behind head first into the boards, but that is still legislated against. Why the distinction? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Finally, the idea that the players know the risks is pretty much meaningless. To use his own example, players know the risk of being checked from behind head first into the boards, but that is still legislated against. Why the distinction? This is an interesting position given the NFL's situation. Those players "knew the risks" and yet there is a giant lawsuit. Seems like among former NFL players there is a divide between those who "knew the risks" and those angry that the NFL hid evidence (which the NHL may or may not have also done, but almost certainly did to a lesser extent than the NFL), and those that are just plain mad at a sport that encouraged the behaviour. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Downie back to the Flyers. Max Talbot to the Avs. what's with Downie? I always think he's in a great spot, really playing well.....and then boom, gets dealt for nothing. With Phi#1, he was really coming into his own, and then off to Tampa. With Tampa he started playing with Stamkos+St.Louis, and he started racking up pts, and then bam, off to Colorado. The other night Im watching the Col game, and he fit in so well with the #1 line, I started to wonder about picking him up in pools. (hence FCHL) Now, hes gone. This is a bigger punch to the gut than Varly being arrested. I don't get it. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Talbot has 'veteran intangibles' and is signed for two more years while Downie is in this last year of his deal and has 'history'. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 31, 2013 Share Posted October 31, 2013 Everyone loved Talbot in Pittsburgh, myself included. I think he'll be useful there. Top 6 could be Duchene, Landeskog, Stastny, Tanguay, O'Reilly, Parenteau... and keep a 3rd line of MacKinnon, McGinn, Talbot? Talbot played the entire 09 Cup run with Malkin and Fedotenko as linemates, and scored twice in the Cup clinching game. He can play with skilled players. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted November 1, 2013 Share Posted November 1, 2013 So ahead of the Leafs coming in for the big game Canucks sign the Sedin s 4 years $56 million. For both Link to post Share on other sites
InternetExplorer 2,609 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 why does steen have 12 goals Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 why does steen have 12 goals 40% shooting percentage helps Link to post Share on other sites
InternetExplorer 2,609 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 I actually almost threw up when I saw it Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Line Brawl Chicken Shit move by Emery, I think doing what he did here should actually get a significant suspension http://youtu.be/S0mZAk6wMSM Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 7-0 loss Lecavalier injured again. Downie concussed. Great game for Philly. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 The referee waving off what I presume are Holtby's teammate(s) while he stands there watching a helpless guy get pummeled in the head says a lot about fighting culture. Gross. But hey, Flyers gon Flyer. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 well that worked for Philly Frank Seravalli @DNFlyers 13m Holmgren says Downie has a concussion from fight. Lecavalier has a facial injury and will miss time. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Hahahahaaahahhaa Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 I agree, Emery deserves a suspension. So does St. Laurent. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Strombone @strombone1 6m Just an FYI. If Ray Emery ever decides to skate down the ice and try to fight me I'm getting the **** out of dodge!!! Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Anyone recall that sound bite they kept playing for the press conference after Berube was hired, of the reporter asking the owner about why they keep hiring from within, and maybe they should consider bringing in someone else non-Flywer to change up the culture. Ed Snider I believe then says "there's nothing wrong with our culture" I didn't see anything, but I would love to find out later Schenn is hurt, Lecavalier is hurt and Emery is suspended. The fact the announcer says this is about firing themselves up and showing heart.....ummmm, maybe that should have been the before you went down 7-0. What a stupid bunch of people some hockey fans and players can be. Link to post Share on other sites
doox 15 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 ''He didn't want to fight, but I basically said, 'Protect yourself,''' Emery said. Here are Emery's stats: GAA: 10.53 SV: 11 SV % .733 And the grossest part of all of this? He got the 3rd f-ing star of the game. Philly is garbage. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 So much for the "what will happen to Washington without OV" storyline Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 So much for the "what will happen to Washington without OV" storyline Well they still have Mr Point Per Game Grabovski Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Under the category of tough to do: George Parros played 4:48 and was a minus 3 Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 The referee waving off what I presume are Holtby's teammate(s) while he stands there watching a helpless guy get pummeled in the head says a lot about fighting culture. Gross. But hey, Flyers gon Flyer. How does that happen? Holtby was getting murdered. What if he got seriously hurt? That's ridiculous. Ray Emery loves this stuff. He went too far. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted November 2, 2013 Share Posted November 2, 2013 Worst part.. no suspension. They "looked" for a reason but couldn't find one? jfc Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted November 2, 2013 Author Share Posted November 2, 2013 What about the "sloppy seconds" catch-all rule? Link to post Share on other sites
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