MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Then we get to hear from the twidiots about Luckily we get this no matter what happens. Yay! Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Never thought about the locking the player for longer angle.. I somehow think that no matter what is said, if a long term deal isnt reached before UFA status, PK is not staying... Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 twidiots. I like it. Agree with your analysis Dale. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I somehow think that no matter what is said, if a long term deal isnt reached before UFA status, PK is not staying... You could be right, but I don't think there are any absolutes in this. If it gets ugly at all though, its entirely possible, but I would bet 99/100 he is still a Hab for at least the next 5 years if not much more. Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Isn't it amazing how much attention is paid to an arbitration hearing on August 1st for a hockey player? lol Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Chris Johnston @reporterchris 4m Another break in the Subban arbitration hearing. P.K. did not look happy ... at all. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I'm hearing Subban had a burrito for breakfast. #sources Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Chris Johnston @reporterchris 4m Another break in the Subban arbitration hearing. P.K. did not look happy ... at all. There's a reason teams don't want to go to arb... they basically have to trash players in order to 'win' it. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 None of us thought it would get to arbitration, but here we are.. Is their any chance of the following scenarios: A) Habs walk away..This would seem silly and not even an option. B) Habs try and trade Subban during the year or at the deadline. C) PK demands a trade I know all 3 scenarios seem out there, but we have seen from previous arbitration rulings the player and the team relationship is soured and lot of occasions the player isnt with team long term. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted August 1, 2014 Author Share Posted August 1, 2014 1. I doubt Subban heard anything during arbitration he hasn't already been told. 2. If there are so few cases that actually make it to arbitration then how can you suggest there's a precedent for players being soured? 3. I'd love to be a player agent. How does one become one? Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 1. I doubt Subban heard anything during arbitration he hasn't already been told. 2. If there are so few cases that actually make it to arbitration then how can you suggest there's a precedent for players being soured? 3. I'd love to be a player agent. How does one become one? Start with going to law school Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I don't think team or player can walk away form the arb ruling under the new CBA, but I could be wrong Link to post Share on other sites
Ottawa_Biatch 288 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Haha everytime you say arb hearing, I think of arp hearing. And arp is the judge and decides whether a fantasy trade is vetod or not Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 8 years. Details please! Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted August 2, 2014 Author Share Posted August 2, 2014 8 years $65 million Free dance lessons from Marc Bergevin and all the burritos he can eat. * I made all that up Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 $72 million. Fair deal though he would have gotten more on the open market. I would honestly be ecstatic if he was on the Leafs on an 8x$12m deal Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 72? Wtf took so long? Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I suspect they were playing hard ball with him, the realized the repercussions if they let him sign a 1 year deal and potentially piss him off, and they just gave in at the last minute and gave him what he wanted, or close to it. Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Yeah, definitely sounds like Bergevin blinked. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 3, 2014 Share Posted August 3, 2014 Boring. PK ruined the 2 years of fun. Sigh. Back to PK hating. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Alexei Kovalev rips PK: "I'm not saying that he isn't a good hockey player - he's not the guy," he said. "He's a risky defenceman and he's a wide open defenceman. What I'm saying is that he can give up five goals and score five goals, and the score's still going to be zero-zero. So if for example, he saves five goals and scores five goals, that's a different style of hockey. So I always compare him with (former Rangers teammate) Brian Leetch, because he wants to play the same kind of style and be more offensive. He's not making the right decisions. He's making the risky plays, he's not making the right decisions sometimes. He just plays like we used to play on the street...street hockey." http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=459761 Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He's wrong. It's pretty well established that the habs in the last couple years have been a cup contender calibre team when PK is on the ice, and an average to below average team when he is off. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 He's wrong. It's pretty well established that the habs in the last couple years have been a cup contender calibre team when PK is on the ice, and an average to below average team when he is off. I dont know..Kovalev's english might be not helping him here. PK admittedly is no Scott Stevens. He isnt the greatest defensive dman to play the game. But he can control the game with his explosive offense...Does he make the Habs better, absolutely. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Doesn't really matter though. If he creates 5 goals and costs his team 4 goals, he is still more valuable than a super shut down defenseman who never gives up a goal but who never creates a goal for either. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted August 20, 2014 Author Share Posted August 20, 2014 Isn't Leetch in the HHOF? Lol Link to post Share on other sites
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