Played The Casino Arizona Nl Tourney Tonight..

[SCYUKON 0]

So I finally snuck out for a night of poker here in beautiful Scottdale. Played the Wednesday night tourney (170+ players), and busted out 92 when some donk who had limped from early position with k10 off (and a M of 7 or so) called my semi bluff push with kd9d diamonds on a flop of 5d 5c 10d (I was SB and there were 3 players in the pot, the donk, the BB and me). Oh well my M was less than 5 preflop so had to go for it or die on that flop as the blind structure is REALLY quick.What excited me most though about the evening was using the tells I spotted after having a quick read of "Read em and Reap" by the FBI dude and Helmuth. Man is that thing BANG ON, from the shaking hands, to the happy feet, to the inching closer to the table. I would highly recommend it to anyone who is going to be playing live.On the second hand of the tourney I should have been toast, as I woke up with aq spades in the bb. An early position player made it 3x the bb, got a caller, and I called as well. On an AK rag rainbow flop I checked, the original player pushed, the second player called, and I mucked my AQ simply because of the tells given by the first player (happy feet and hands nearly touching the middle of the table). Sure as could be he had AK, the second player had AJ, and everyone thought I was bsing when I said I laid down AQ. Probably not that great a laydown but probably not one I usually make without reading the 1st players body language.Fun to start adding that dimension to my game. I had strictly been a numbers guy before that (too much online play and HOH). Anyways, again would strongly recommend that book to FCP'ers.BTW - Scottsdale rocks! God I love all the bling and female eye candy!

[PiercE^Bodog 0]

lol dude, i was out there tonight too. i have been going like 3 times a week. i was playing from 9 till 1 or so. i have been running so well there, the people that play at that place are just so ****ing bad. i had a prty bad session tonight. i started off owning as usual, built my 300 stack to 750 or so then got in a huge hand, had 77 opponent at AQ flop came AQ7 he had 400, i put him allin on the flop and what do you know, the ****ing 4 outer appears ). oh well, luck comes and goes. i love that place, these people just dont know what the **** they are doing. yeah Scottsdale is the ****, fine *** woman and an overall lovely place. I was born an raised in phx, i go out there all the time. its only a nice 20 min drive away.

[rogerwilco 0]

On the second hand of the tourney I should have been toast, as I woke up with aq spades in the bb. An early position player made it 3x the bb, got a caller, and I called as well. On an AK rag rainbow flop I checked, the original player pushed, the second player called, and I mucked my AQ simply because of the tells given by the first player (happy feet and hands nearly touching the middle of the table). Sure as could be he had AK, the second player had AJ, and everyone thought I was bsing when I said I laid down AQ. Probably not that great a laydown but probably not one I usually make without reading the 1st players body language.

No offense, but in that situation I don't need a tell to throw away AQ.

[sholden 0]

If your M was less than 5, and you weren't the BB, and it didn't see everyone from UTG to the button limping then how did you manage to see a flop without already being all-in?

[Suited_Up 2]

No offense, but in that situation I don't need a tell to throw away AQ.

QFT

[nutzbuster 7]

So I finally snuck out for a night of poker here in beautiful Scottdale. Played the Wednesday night tourney (170+ players), and busted out 92 when some donk who had limped from early position with k10 off (and a M of 7 or so) called my semi bluff push with kd9d diamonds on a flop of 5d 5c 10d (I was SB and there were 3 players in the pot, the donk, the BB and me). Oh well my M was less than 5 preflop so had to go for it or die on that flop as the blind structure is REALLY quick.What excited me most though about the evening was using the tells I spotted after having a quick read of "Read em and Reap" by the FBI dude and Helmuth. Man is that thing BANG ON, from the shaking hands, to the happy feet, to the inching closer to the table. I would highly recommend it to anyone who is going to be playing live.On the second hand of the tourney I should have been toast, as I woke up with aq spades in the bb. An early position player made it 3x the bb, got a caller, and I called as well. On an AK rag rainbow flop I checked, the original player pushed, the second player called, and I mucked my AQ simply because of the tells given by the first player (happy feet and hands nearly touching the middle of the table). Sure as could be he had AK, the second player had AJ, and everyone thought I was bsing when I said I laid down AQ. Probably not that great a laydown but probably not one I usually make without reading the 1st players body language.Fun to start adding that dimension to my game. I had strictly been a numbers guy before that (too much online play and HOH). Anyways, again would strongly recommend that book to FCP'ers.BTW - Scottsdale rocks! God I love all the bling and female eye candy!

Yes.Yes it does.Glad you are enjoying your time out here.

[SCYUKON 0]

If your M was less than 5, and you weren't the BB, and it didn't see everyone from UTG to the button limping then how did you manage to see a flop without already being all-in?

??????I had 2900 in chips, Blinds were 200 400, and I limped from the SB. 2900/(200+400) =<5??????Um early position player limped for 400, I completed for 200, and BB checked. Sorry if I posted something which would indicate otherwise

[SCYUKON 0]

No offense, but in that situation I don't need a tell to throw away AQ.

Well I did not think anyone would be impressed with that laydown, so that is why I said that it was probably not that great of a laydown in the original thread.I guess you had to be there though. People were pushing with A10 off, A8 off etc in the opening rounds, so it was not as easy a fold as it might seem. At any rate, another time the SB raised me in the BB in a battle of the blinds, saw his hands shaking, told him "I can't call, your hands are shaking too much", folded, and he showed me a 10 10.I guess the point I am making is that I never used to watch for these things and it is a lot of fun to have that extra weapon to play with.

[SCYUKON 0]

Yes.Yes it does.Glad you are enjoying your time out here.

Oh yea. Been out here now a total of 6 times since 97 and I hope to make this an annual trip. A quick direct flight (3 hours), reasonably priced accomodation (especially now that I have found www.arizonatimesharerentals.com), great shopping for the wife, great golfing for me, and nice pools for the kids, man this place is Heaven on Earth.It's so much fun to pretend that I am rich and belong for a couple of weeks

[sholden 0]

??????I had 2900 in chips, Blinds were 200 400, and I limped from the SB. 2900/(200+400) =<5??????Um early position player limped for 400, I completed for 200, and BB checked. Sorry if I posted something which would indicate otherwise

There's 1000 in the pot when it's your turn to act. I'd be pushing or folding - putting in 7% of my chips out of position wouldn't be an option (but that's probably just me). The pot is over a third of your stack, you're suited, as poorly connected as possible while still being connected, and king high - pushing looks good to me. Of course when I do that the early limper had AA and was hoping someone would do just what I did.An early position limp (from a short stack no less) is hard to work out, could be very strong hoping for someone to raise could just be a bad weak player. Knowing the results it's option 2 - K 10???The stop-n-go seems unwise he might hit the flop with a hand he would have folded to a shove preflop. If he has a monster waiting for a raise preflop then he'll call anyway (unless it's a scary board - A high and he has pocket Kings maybe), plus you let the BB in to hit the flop too (or to shove preflop). Limping to see the flop seems like throwing 7% of your stack away.But I'm not a exactly the world' best poker player?

[Omaha Hi/Lo 0]

I guess you had to be there though. People were pushing with A10 off, A8 off etc in the opening rounds, so it was not as easy a fold as it might seem. At any rate, another time the SB raised me in the BB in a battle of the blinds, saw his hands shaking, told him "I can't call, your hands are shaking too much", folded, and he showed me a 10 10.

How are you gonna play against someone with Parkinson's?

[trussdude 0]

Who is the donkey?

[SCYUKON 0]

How are you gonna play against someone with Parkinson's?

Good Point - they did not cover that in the book Doh!

[SCYUKON 0]

Who is the donkey?

Um - you for asking after having a total of 17 posts.

[trussdude 0]

Yeah, you're right. That was a bad beat. As a previous poster said, it was a simple fold or a push pre-flop.You can't expect your donkey to fold top pair to a short stack in that situation.

[trussdude 0]

If you're still in town, Casino Arizona has their last Saturday of the month tournament this Saturday. There is usually 300-400 players. $150 buy in. They also have a $170 buy in WSOP qualifier on Sunday. Top two get a seat to the Main Event. This one is limited to 180 players.Both tournaments start at 10 AM.

[SCYUKON 0]

If you're still in town, Casino Arizona has their last Saturday of the month tournament this Saturday. There is usually 300-400 players. $150 buy in. They also have a $170 buy in WSOP qualifier on Sunday. Top two get a seat to the Main Event. This one is limited to 180 players.Both tournaments start at 10 AM.

Yea - I noted that. If the tourney structure is like the one Wednesday night, I think I will skip it and play 5-150 instead. That tourney structure was way too fast for my taste. Oh well I guess they wanted to be done in 5 to 6 hours so no choice....Thanks for the heads up.

[HermanKahn 0]

If you liked Navarro's work on poker tells, you might want check out the rest of his professional research on detecting deception. There's a whole body of unclassified literature out there you'll find tremendously useful--not just for your game, but for your life. His poker book only scratches the surface...In my opinion, Bella DePaulo is the BOMB:http://www.belladepaulo.com/deceptionpubs.htm#other

[SCYUKON 0]

If you liked Navarro's work on poker tells, you might want check out the rest of his professional research on detecting deception. There's a whole body of unclassified literature out there you'll find tremendously useful--not just for your game, but for your life. His poker book only scratches the surface...In my opinion, Bella DePaulo is the BOMB:http://www.belladepaulo.com/deceptionpubs.htm#other

Indeed that would be very useful for a lot of things outside of poker, especially for when my kids get older and want to start wandering a bit, or the wife starts getting eyes for a tennis pro or something .Fascinating stuff - was cool to read about some of the interrogation tricks.Thanks for the link! Will def check it out.