digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 STANDINGSTORONTO 91 (0)NEW YORK ISLANDERS 90 (1) New York Islanders (1)90 pointsMar 27 vs New Jersey LOST 2-3Mar 30 @ Buffalo LOST 4-6Mar 31 vs Ottawa LOST 2-5Apr 3 vs NY Rangers OT WON 3-2Apr 5 vs Toronto WON 5-2Apr 7 @ Philadelphia WON 4-2Apr 8 @ New JerseyToronto (0)91 pointsMar 27 vs Carolina WON 6-1Mar 29 @ Atlanta OT LOST 2-3Mar 31 vs Pittsburgh OT WON 5-4Apr 1 @ NY Rangers LOST 2-7Apr 3 vs Philadelphia OT WON 3-2Apr 5 @ NY Islanders LOST 2-5Apr 7 vs Montreal WON 6-5 Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 nice looking thread. i suggest putting the games remaining in brackets at the top, beside the point totals.Go Leafs! Let's hope no one on Atlanta, NYR or Pittsburgh listens to Gruven, and keeps going stick-side on raycroft. Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Limit 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Realistically we're out of it, but at least we're playing respectable of late and the Panthers could play spoiler. Link to post Share on other sites
Reelishymn 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Good thread.This is so intense, each of these teams only has like 1 or 2 "easy" games in their schedule. NYI and Montreal probably have the toughest schedule.I'm guessing that ATL will win their division and 6-7-8 will go to the Rangers, Tampa Bay, and Montreal or Toronto (whoever wins that last game of the season). I'm counting NYI and Florida out already because they're missing their top 2 goalies and too far behind, respectively. Carolina just doesn't look good right now. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 Florida is playing well. Their goalie last night (Anderson, I think) looked very good. I don't give them much of a chance at making it because they basically have to run the table and hope for losses from all the teams ahead of them.Montreal AND Toronto making it would be nice. Link to post Share on other sites
Governator 54 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Problem is.. Toronto can't tie for the last spot, as they don't have as many wins as everyone else. So unfortunately the leafs got to basically win 'em all and aim for 7th or even 6th. What an awesome finish to the season though, 6-7 teams fighting for 2 or 3 spots. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Problem is.. Toronto can't tie for the last spot, as they don't have as many wins as everyone else. So unfortunately the leafs got to basically win 'em all and aim for 7th or even 6th. What an awesome finish to the season though, 6-7 teams fighting for 2 or 3 spots. As was pointed out to the overzealous leaf fans (serge), wining their games is NO guarantee of the Leafs getting in. They need some teams to really slip (even the Canes recent slump hasn't pushed them out of contention completely). It looks like the season finale between Montreal and Toronto will have a huge impact on the season for probably 3 teams anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 March 29th Game(s)Toronto Maple Leafs @ Atlanta ThrashersThe Thrashers were able to pick up a point in a shootout loss against the Florida Panthers last night but they are still not in the clear. They will be looking to put some space between themselves and Tampa Bay in the battle for the division lead.A win by the Leafs would still leave them in 9th place. Link to post Share on other sites
hockey fan 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 As was pointed out to the overzealous leaf fans (serge), wining their games is NO guarantee of the Leafs getting in. They need some teams to really slip (even the Canes recent slump hasn't pushed them out of contention completely). It looks like the season finale between Montreal and Toronto will have a huge impact on the season for probably 3 teams anyway.No, actually, that's not true.If the Leafs win all their games they ARE guaranteed a playoff spot.The scheduling works out that by them beating the Islanders and Montreal; and Tampa and Carolina playing 2 games head-to-head - the Leafs would end up with 96 points and would finish higher than:- Montreal who would then only have a maximum of 95 points (assuming an OT/SO loss to the Leafs and 4 wins)- The Islanders who with the loss to the Leafs would have a maximum of 95 points (assuming an OT/SO loss to the Leafs and 5 wins)- Either the Canes or Tampa: If Carolina sweeps, Tampa can only get a maximum of 94 points (2 OT/SO losses to Carolina + 3 wins) If Tampa sweeps, Carolina can only get a maximum of 92 points (2 OT/SO losses to Tampa + 3 wins) If Tampa and Carolina split, Carolina still can only get a maximum of 93 points (1 OT/SO loss to Tampa and 4 wins)So while it is complicated, and unlikely, the Leafs simply have to win all their games to get in.EDIT: I just realized we would also beat the Rangers out.Since the Leafs would beat them once as well, the Rangers would have a maximum of 96 points (1 OT/SO loss to the Leafs and 4 wins)They would tie the Leafs in points and wins, but the Leafs would hold the tie-breaker with more points head-to-head. Link to post Share on other sites
hockey fan 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 ....Of course if the Leafs lose to Atlanta tonight, you can throw all that out! :PYou gotta love (hate) a good playoff race! Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 No, actually, that's not true.If the Leafs win all their games they ARE guaranteed a playoff spot.The scheduling works out that by them beating the Islanders and Montreal; and Tampa and Carolina playing 2 games head-to-head - the Leafs would end up with 96 points and would finish higher than:- Montreal who would then only have a maximum of 95 points (assuming an OT/SO loss to the Leafs and 4 wins)- The Islanders who with the loss to the Leafs would have a maximum of 95 points (assuming an OT/SO loss to the Leafs and 5 wins)- Either the Canes or Tampa: If Carolina sweeps, Tampa can only get a maximum of 94 points (2 OT/SO losses to Carolina + 3 wins) If Tampa sweeps, Carolina can only get a maximum of 92 points (2 OT/SO losses to Tampa + 3 wins) If Tampa and Carolina split, Carolina still can only get a maximum of 93 points (1 OT/SO loss to Tampa and 4 wins)So while it is complicated, and unlikely, the Leafs simply have to win all their games to get in.EDIT: I just realized we would also beat the Rangers out.Since the Leafs would beat them once as well, the Rangers would have a maximum of 96 points (1 OT/SO loss to the Leafs and 4 wins)They would tie the Leafs in points and wins, but the Leafs would hold the tie-breaker with more points head-to-head. Would the Leafs and Rangers have the same number of wins because that is the first tiebreaker? Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 No, actually, that's not true.If the Leafs win all their games they ARE guaranteed a playoff spot.The scheduling works out that by them beating the Islanders and Montreal; and Tampa and Carolina playing 2 games head-to-head - the Leafs would end up with 96 points and would finish higher than:- Montreal who would then only have a maximum of 95 points (assuming an OT/SO loss to the Leafs and 4 wins)- The Islanders who with the loss to the Leafs would have a maximum of 95 points (assuming an OT/SO loss to the Leafs and 5 wins)- Either the Canes or Tampa: If Carolina sweeps, Tampa can only get a maximum of 94 points (2 OT/SO losses to Carolina + 3 wins) If Tampa sweeps, Carolina can only get a maximum of 92 points (2 OT/SO losses to Tampa + 3 wins) If Tampa and Carolina split, Carolina still can only get a maximum of 93 points (1 OT/SO loss to Tampa and 4 wins)So while it is complicated, and unlikely, the Leafs simply have to win all their games to get in.EDIT: I just realized we would also beat the Rangers out.Since the Leafs would beat them once as well, the Rangers would have a maximum of 96 points (1 OT/SO loss to the Leafs and 4 wins)They would tie the Leafs in points and wins, but the Leafs would hold the tie-breaker with more points head-to-head. The first tiebreaker is wins. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 The first tiebreaker is wins.Cite your sources! Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Cite your sources! "An undisclosed source reported to The Hockey News today that....." "I'm sorry, I cannot reveal my source" Link to post Share on other sites
hockey fan 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 The first tiebreaker is wins.In all cases that I listed the Leafs come out with more points, no tie-breakers required.Except the Rangers where they would be equal in wins and would win on more points head-to-head.I know it sounds crazy, but the math doesn't lie - if the Leafs win ALL of their games they are in - no tie-breakers required. Link to post Share on other sites
hockey fan 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Would the Leafs and Rangers have the same number of wins because that is the first tiebreaker?Yes the Leafs would have 37 + 6 = 43 winsThe Rangers would have 39 + 4 = 43 winsThey would end up with identical 43-29-10 records and the Leafs would win the tie-breaker on having a 3-0-1 record against the Rangers this year head-to-head (7 points to 2 points). Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Tie-breaking procedureIf two or more clubs are tied in points at the end of the regular season, the standing of the clubs in each Conference will be determined in the following order: The greater number of games won. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing. The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. Iam calling the last game between tor-mon both teams needing just a single point. Game goes into OT and everyone calls fix. Thats my dream scenerio as I want as many Canadian teams in as possible. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Tie-breaking procedureIf two or more clubs are tied in points at the end of the regular season, the standing of the clubs in each Conference will be determined in the following order: The greater number of games won. The greater number of points earned in games between the tied clubs. If two clubs are tied, and have not played an equal number of home games against each other, points earned in the first game played in the city that had the extra game shall not be included. If more than two clubs are tied, the higher percentage of available points earned in games among those clubs, and not including any "odd" games, shall be used to determine the standing. The greater differential between goals for and against for the entire regular season. Iam calling the last game between tor-mon both teams needing just a single point. Game goes into OT and everyone calls fix. Thats my dream scenerio as I want as many Canadian teams in as possible.As a leafs fan this is unacceptable...I would do everything in my power to see the look of despair and misery on that sad sacked franchise...The Habs and the Isles have a tough test as they both play Buffalo and Ottawa on Friday and Saturday...I would be happy with 2pts from our next two games with Atl and Pittsburgh and more than satisfied with 3....Even though every game from now is a must win...If we lose tonight its not the end of the world. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Even though every game from now is a must win...If we lose tonight its not the end of the world. Wow... I don't even know where to START making fun of THAT statement....... LOL Link to post Share on other sites
coesillian 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Ya serge, keep looking for 2 of 4 points and we'll see if that gets you into the post-season lol. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 Wow... I don't even know where to START making fun of THAT statement....... LOLLMAOBogo the Clown strikes again! Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 LMAOBogo the Clown strikes again!YOu are all the clowns...Saying the Leafs had no chance at the playoffs..are you all gonna eat your words when they actually win the East??? Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 YOu are all the clowns...Saying the Leafs had no chance at the playoffs..are you all gonna eat your words when they actually win the East???Who said the Leafs had no chance at the playoffs? Link to post Share on other sites
Speed Limit 0 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 NYI and Florida out already because they're missing their top 2 goalies and too far behind, respectively.Too far behind..yes.Florida missing their top goalie..no. Anderson made a start last night to relieve Belfour from his record of straight starts for Florida. Belfour is in no way injured or ailing from anything, but if you were referring to Auld haha yes he is very much done for the season. I feel bad for NYI, DiPietro has been their everything, I still tip my hat to Ted Nolan for a great coaching job this season, I thought it was going to be like watching a train wreck at the beginning of the year. But for Ryan Smyth's sake I hope they edge it into the playoffs. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 Too far behind..yes.Florida missing their top goalie..no. Anderson made a start last night to relieve Belfour from his record of straight starts for Florida. Belfour is in no way injured or ailing from anything, but if you were referring to Auld haha yes he is very much done for the season. I feel bad for NYI, DiPietro has been their everything, I still tip my hat to Ted Nolan for a great coaching job this season, I thought it was going to be like watching a train wreck at the beginning of the year. But for Ryan Smyth's sake I hope they edge it into the playoffs.Anderson looked good last night. That save on Hossa with seconds left in the 3rd was very good.I've heard Dipietro could be back as early as tomorrow. Link to post Share on other sites
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