mmic23 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 It was $95Chamber of Commerce will help, bring the kid and the medical recordsSorry for not memorizing my deposits. If you want all my information, I'm pretty sure I deposited $200 or so after that. Lost that too. Link to post Share on other sites
OrzyVibe 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I live in Oregon.Ok....sorry.....but this is really stupid. Selling your measly possessions isn't going to do anything. Why would you not talk to the hospital or A hospital to work it out??? This is ridiculous. Also....shame on you for no medical insurance. Phucking stupid. Posting on a poker board for help with this? Epic Phucking Stupid. Link to post Share on other sites
rgold79 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I hope this is bullshit. If that's the case it's just you who looks like a moron and a loser. Otherwise you've got a sick son whose father's best idea is to post repeatedly on an internet poker forum rather than look for real ways to help him. Either way, sign off and get help for either yourself or your son. Link to post Share on other sites
HoosierAlum 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 He even confused his story as to whether his initial deposit was $50 or $90...this should get good. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 If you had "made a comfortable living" the past 5 years playing poker why would you randomly come to an internet forum asking what % of hands you should be playing and other basic newbie poker questions?There are no dumb questions.Are there? Link to post Share on other sites
HoosierAlum 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I hope this is bullshit. If that's the case it's just you who looks like a moron and a loser. Otherwise you've got a sick son whose father's best idea is to post repeatedly on an internet poker forum rather than look for real ways to help him. Either way, sign off and get help for either yourself or your son.qft Link to post Share on other sites
mmic23 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 I'm on the edge of calling shenanigans. You're uninterested in asking anybody for a loan, or explaining where the mother is or where the rest of your family is, but you are interested in the idea of a charity golf tournament? And you make a living playing poker but made a thread asking what limits you should play with a $90 BR? Also, you support yourself and your son by playing poker and selling some stuff on ebay and deposit $90?????? To make a living at poker you need a serious BR, $90 should be like nothing to you in regards to poker. SHENANI.......ok not yet, almost though.I don't own a house, so a loan from a bank is pretty much out of the question. As far as I go, I was adopted and have had no contact with my adopted parents since I was 16. My wife's mom is broke, her dad died a while back. Her mom lives with us, because she never worked while she was married to my wife's father. He didn't have a retirement account or anything set up for the future, was still working when he past away. Kind of put her in a shitty situation, so we took her in. As far as I go, since I have to defend myself. I make maybe $300-400 a week playing poker at the casino, playing 3 days a week, sometimes 4. With ebay, I make another $200-300 a week. Usually, I bring in a total of around $2500 a month. After expenses, I have around $1,000 or so left over -- which depletes somehow.The casino by my house is small. $3/6 is all there is. I never planned on doing it for a living, but I have consistently seen results. I can't tell you any statistics that I have and I have never really had to manage a bankroll - it has all been relatively simple. Some of my friends told me to play online, that I needed to be a lot more organized. Everything with online poker and being successful was relatively new to me. I came here for help. End of story. Link to post Share on other sites
mmic23 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 He even confused his story as to whether his initial deposit was $50 or $90...this should get good.Seriously? My mind isn't really focused on what my initial deposit was. I don't really understand what me not knowing means. That I purposely lied about how much I deposited? Why would I do that? I just went along with what the other guy said. I was up all night doing everything I thought I could. I have been looking up things for the last 15 hours. I am so overwhelmed at this point, with getting no results, that I thought I would come here. I thought maybe someone could point out an idea that I was missing or would have pertinent knowledge on the situation. And, some help has actually been helpful.All I know is that a loan isn't possible, that I probably am a loser for having no medical insurance and being helpless right now, but that I also can't do anything about all of that. I am just looking to try to figure something out. I don't want to argue, fight, defend myself or anything. I just wanted to vent, hear some advice, and pray that someone had a miracle idea. I know I am pathetic. I know I am failing my family. I don't need to be attacked when all I am trying to do is figure out how to fix things. Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda 1 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 You say you provide for your family but you don't even have one of those crappy $100/mo medical insurance plans with a large deductible? Link to post Share on other sites
bull62 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 As far as I go, since I have to defend myself. I make maybe $300-400 a week playing poker at the casino, playing 3 days a week, sometimes 4. With ebay, I make another $200-300 a week. Usually, I bring in a total of around $2500 a month. After expenses, I have around $1,000 or so left over -- which depletes somehow.So a good month is about $2800. You support your family + mother-in-law on $1800 a month. Taxes? Food? Clothing? Shelter? Porn? Link to post Share on other sites
HoosierAlum 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 all I am trying to do is figure out how to fix things.Why would you come to a poker forum where you have 13 posts at to try and fix a situation this serious? If your son is truly sick, trolling around FCP is about the worst thing you could be doing. If you are a scumbag and made up this story to get a few sympathy donations, gg good effort, but its not happening. Move on. Link to post Share on other sites
mmic23 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 So a good month is about $2800. You support your family + mother-in-law on $1800 a month. Taxes? Food? Clothing? Shelter? Porn?My rent is $750 a month. Food is usually $250ish or so. Clothes usually get purchased before the school year, and we spend $300 or so. I put money aside, out of the left over money, to prepare for taxes. Mother-in-law babysits, which saves money. My wife also has a job - she works at Kay Jewelers, since you will probably attack. She works part time, so guess what, no medical coverage. She doesn't bring in a lot, but we have consistently made enough to have no problems. My wife used to work full time somewhere else, but when she was laid off a couple years ago, the medical insurance that we did have went away. She had tried to get upgraded to full time status at Kay's, but they kept putting it off. I know I was stupid to not get any type of insurance in the meantime. But I cant do anything about all that now. Link to post Share on other sites
mmic23 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Why would you come to a poker forum where you have 13 posts at to try and fix a situation this serious? If your son is truly sick, trolling around FCP is about the worst thing you could be doing. If you are a scumbag and made up this story to get a few sympathy donations, gg good effort, but its not happening. Move on.I came here because I am tired, depressed, and out of options. I have called places, been told that they cannot help me. I have looked online, which has only lead to dead ends. I have tried calling everyone I can think of... but I am lower middle class, and all of my friends are too. No one I know has this kind of money. The costs of treating this are staggering. I have posted in all sorts of forums, trying to get the advice of as many people as possible. 3 or 4 of the posts here have lead to more searches, more phone calls, more of everything. So have the other forums. I am trying to figure out all of my options, since I am not that knowledable on the subject. All I know is that the hospital we went to seemed to care about its bottom line as opposed to a life. ****ing wonderful. I am not here for any handouts. Handouts wont pay my bills. I need a lot of money, and I need it consistently for the immediate future. I thought I would be able to get ideas as how to accomplish that. Link to post Share on other sites
MyPlayIsRAB 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 the next super thread/ this is 2 or 3 degenerates in 2 days we';ve had, im loving this dramabeat Link to post Share on other sites
mmic23 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Thank you to everyone who replied with a helpful tip. I will check back periodically to see if anyone else contributes anything positive. But I can't defend myself anymore. It isn't helping my situation and it is a waste of time. Link to post Share on other sites
ColeSLaw 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 The internet breeds skepticism and harshness. That's its nature. However, I never understand why people don't weigh of the risk/reward of calling someone out. Reward: you spotted a scam/joke/whatever (but one that did not appear to be hurting anyone at this point). Risk: you have just suggested an overwhelmed father trying to help his sick son should die. I, personally, am going to assume he is telling the truth, and not looking for fakecancerstakeaments. Anyway: As some people have mentioned, your focus is off. You are trying to make quick money to pay for treatment. Instead, you should be trying to find subsidized or charitable treatment.I have no experience in this area, but I suggest you contact every stakeholder you can imagine: hospitals, government, non-governmental orgs, media, insurance (not likely). Start with the most likely to point you in the right direction (hospitals and charities), but cast a wide net.You say you are in Oregon, hospitals:Legacy Emanuel Hospital & Medical Center in PortlandOur Financial Counselors are available Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Legacy Emanuel: 503-413-4075 Legacy Good Samaritan: 503-413-7086 or 503-413-8417 Legacy Meridian Park: 503-692-2683 Legacy Mount Hood: 503-674-1195 Legacy Salmon Creek Hospital: 360-487-1080 What if I do not have insurance?Legacy will provide eligible uninsured hospital patients who receive inpatient or outpatient medically necessary services from a Legacy hospital with a discount from Legacy charges. To determine if you qualify for an uninsured discount, please call Legacy Patient Business Services at the numbers above. Try other hospitals too.----------------NGOsThis is a good link.Bear Necessities Pediatric Cancer Foundation Children First for OregonEaster Sealsetc.-------------------------------Government- not sure who is best to contact here.Your local, state and fed reps is one idea.----------------Media- pretty straight forward.-----Start doing this instead of posting your rookie card on Ebay. You will find someone with direct and extensive experience on this issue and they will point you in your best direction. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
mmic23 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 The internet breeds skepticism and harshness. That's its nature. However, I never understand why people don't weigh of the risk/reward of calling someone out. Reward: you spotted a scam/joke/whatever (but one that did not appear to be hurting anyone at this point). Risk: you have just suggested an overwhelmed father trying to help his sick son should die. I, personally, am going to assume he is telling the truth, and not looking for fakecancerstakeaments. Anyway: As some people have mentioned, your focus is off. You are trying to make quick money to pay for treatment. Instead, you should be trying to find subsidized or charitable treatment.I have no experience in this area, but I suggest you contact every stakeholder you can imagine: hospitals, government, non-governmental orgs, media, insurance (not likely). Start with the most likely to point you in the right direction (hospitals and charities), but cast a wide net.You say you are in Oregon, hospitals:Legacy Emanuel Hospital & Medical Center in PortlandOur Financial Counselors are available Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 4:30 p.m. Legacy Emanuel: 503-413-4075 Legacy Good Samaritan: 503-413-7086 or 503-413-8417 Legacy Meridian Park: 503-692-2683 Legacy Mount Hood: 503-674-1195 Legacy Salmon Creek Hospital: 360-487-1080 What if I do not have insurance?Legacy will provide eligible uninsured hospital patients who receive inpatient or outpatient medically necessary services from a Legacy hospital with a discount from Legacy charges. To determine if you qualify for an uninsured discount, please call Legacy Patient Business Services at the numbers above. Try other hospitals too.----------------NGOsThis is a good link.Bear Necessities Pediatric Cancer Foundation Children First for OregonEaster Sealsetc.-------------------------------Government- not sure who is best to contact here.Your local, state and fed reps is one idea.----------------Media- pretty straight forward.-----Start doing this instead of posting your rookie card on Ebay. You will find someone with direct and extensive experience on this issue and they will point you in your best direction. Good luck.THANK YOU so much... Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Work out a payment plan, and everything will be fine. I would rather believe you than even entertain the thought of someone making up a story like this.True or false God bless you as you will need a blessing in any case. Link to post Share on other sites
ColeSLaw 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 I should have put the NGOs first. Hospitals will be more interested in getting paid unfortunately. Start with the charities on the link. A few of them are cancer-focused. Good luck.Charities Children's organizations Children's Hospice InternationalSt Jude Children's Research Hospital Shriners Hospitals for Children Bear Necessities Pediatric Cancer Foundation Children's Neuroblastoma Cancer Foundation Ronald McDonald House Charities etc. Link to post Share on other sites
aedread 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Why would you come to a poker forum where you have 13 posts at to try and fix a situation this serious? If your son is truly sick, trolling around FCP is about the worst thing you could be doing. If you are a scumbag and made up this story to get a few sympathy donations, gg good effort, but its not happening. Move on.Ding Ding Ding we have a winner.I read to much of this... Link to post Share on other sites
joshrogo 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Hey everyone - Thanks for advance for any help you guys can offer.I found out yesterday, although I still haven't been able to sleep, that my son has leukemia. Even worse, I do not have medical insurance. My main source of income over the years has been poker and selling on Ebay. But, while I have been profitable in both arenas, I do not play high stakes or make a tremendous amount of money. I make enough to survive, provide for my family, and live a somewhat comfortable life. But I don't have anywhere near enough money to handle a situation like this. Thus, I am hear not only to get some advice on what I should do to try to come up with money, but also to get some support. I am incredibly overwhelmed, but I have to keep pretending to be strong, just to keep some sort of order within my home. I know that if it were easy to come up with a lot of money, then everyone would do it. But, at this point, I need a miracle. My only thought is to pawn all of my personal possession (electronics, huge collection of basketball cards, football jerseys, an expensive watch that I have hardly used, etc) --- but I know nothing about pawning things. I would try to sell these things on Ebay, but people are looking for a deal on Ebay, and I would probably only get a couple grand for all these things, when it reality they are probably worth 15-20,000. I'm not sure if a pawn shop would be better... I'm not really sure of anything.Does anyone have any sincere ideas or words of wisdom.Thanks...I have 3 children and I can't imagine the feelings you must be going through. Please send me a list of the things you are selling (PM) and I will give you as fair a price as possible for any that are interesting. Also, have you established a medical fund on your child's behalf. If so, I will be happy to seed it with a nice contribution.I am sure this is a hard time for you and yours and my thoughts and prayers are with you and the family in this time of crisis. Link to post Share on other sites
ColeSLaw 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 A couple other points-Sure, you are in a terrible situation, but there are some positives to focus on:1. At the income level you have described, you meet every charitable income requirement imaginable. You aren't close to the cut-off.2. You probably wish you had the cancer instead of your son, but in terms of charity and organization, there are a lot more organization to help children and youth than adults.3. Cancer survival rates are ever-increasing and while medical treatment available in the U.S. is expensive, it is world-class.I think you get my point. Also, I think you will be surprised how many people in your community are willing to help. Good luck. Link to post Share on other sites
ChrisRichey 1 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 OP, Oregon does have a health plan for those that meet the criteria. Not sure what that is, it's something you'd have to look into yourself. http://www.oregon.gov/DHS/healthplan/I hope everything works out for you. Link to post Share on other sites
mmic23 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Thank you for the recent posts that have included some very helpful paths. I am making phone calls as we speak. Link to post Share on other sites
aggyanglr 0 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 THANK YOU so much...I live in Oregon. It's about as close as you can get (socialistic) in the United States to a Canadian Health Care System. Go to this link: http://www.oregon.gov/DHS/healthplan/app_benefits/main.shtml. Open up the 64 page pdf file of the actual plan itself. There are about 20 good contact numbers in there for agencies that can assist you. I know you know this now, but get all your family members signed up for this immediately. At between 9 and 20 bucks a month, your whole family including your mother in law can get on it for premiums of 36-80 dollars a month, well within your 1000 dollars a month extra that you have each month after bills. good luck. I hope all turns out well. Link to post Share on other sites
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