N H L Statistics

[digitalmonkey 929]

http://209.121.43.98:81/I'm not quite sure yet how he's arrived at some numbers but this guy is dedicated. I really like the NET value stat. It puts Souray at around $4.9 million which is what I expect he'll be looking for.The diving tracker is cool.

[goose 0]

that guy is my hero.

[Fenxis 99]

I love that there's an effort to measure the individual's contribution (while trying to negate the positive/negative impacts of linemates); only additional factor I'd like to see is hits taken/received to add a physical / power forward element.

[7s7c 0]

I hope Selanne doesn't go to URL's with no words.

[mrdannyg 274]

maybe it was there, but i'd love to see how he arrived at stats like their defensive contribution and shorthanded contribution. seems like anyone who killed penalties was significantly more valuable, even though they're not necessarily better at killing penalties than a 'replacement' player, and so are not necessarily that much more valuable to their team.

[Fenxis 99]

Legend is at the bottom:SHA - Goals against average while on ice with a man disadvantageDEF - Expected goals against while on the ice @ even strength

[Fenxis 99]

Seems like the number of underpaid players far exceeds the number of overpaid players (ignoring RFA and rookie salaries):Notable exceptions: M Chouinard who apparently should have paid Vancouver 2.1 mill this year & Havlat who's at 1.5 million due to his slump.Wonder if the total salaries assigned fit under the salary cap?

[digitalmonkey 929]

Seems like the number of underpaid players far exceeds the number of overpaid players (ignoring RFA and rookie salaries):Notable exceptions: M Chouinard who apparently should have paid Vancouver 2.1 mill this year & Havlat who's at 1.5 million due to his slump.Wonder if the total salaries assigned fit under the salary cap?

Have a look at McCabe's ACTUAL vs NET.

[Fenxis 99]

Ouch! Other thing is it calculates the players contract on straight stats.. while supply and demand would seem to indicate that premium players get overpaid and bench warmers should get underpaid.

[Zach6668 513]

Why is Heatley from Germany?

[digitalmonkey 929]

Why is Heatley from Germany?

He was born there. I believe his parents were on an Army base stationed in Germany.

[lordofelt 0]

He was born there. I believe his parents were on an Army base stationed in Germany.

That doesn't make him a German citizen, he was born in Germany but on a Canadian army base making him is a Canadian citizen.P.S. It is nice to see that Canada has the top 5 players and 8 of the top 10 as well looks like we're still #1.

[digitalmonkey 929]

That doesn't make him a German citizen, he was born in Germany but on a Canadian army base making him is a Canadian citizen.P.S. It is nice to see that Canada has the top 5 players and 8 of the top 10 as well looks like we're still #1.

The info says where he is born not what citizenship(s) he holds.Many hockey players (ex/ Brett Hull, Brendan Shanahan, Bryan Trottier) were born in Canada but hold American citizenship. It does not change the place where they were born.Plus, I'm not sure he was born on an army base.

[lordofelt 0]

The info says where he is born not what citizenship(s) he holds.Many hockey players (ex/ Brett Hull, Brendan Shanahan, Bryan Trottier) were born in Canada but hold American citizenship. It does not change the place where they were born.Plus, I'm not sure he was born on an army base.

Well whether or not he was born on an army base would be a key factor. If his parents were simply living in Germany and he was born there then he would be a German citizen however if his parents were living on a Canadian army base in Germany and he was born on the base then he would be a Canadian citizen as the base would be considered Canadian soil much like an embassy in a foreign country is. I have an American friend who was born on a Naval base in Japan and he was born an American citizen.Edit: Wikipeida says that he was born in Germany because his father was playing hockey over there, no mention of the army, so he was born a German citizen and likely quickly naturalized shortly thereafter. My only point was that children born on army bases are usually considered citizens of the base country and not the country where the base is located.

[digitalmonkey 929]

Well whether or not he was born on an army base would be a key factor. If his parents were simply living in Germany and he was born there then he would be a German citizen however if his parents were living on a Canadian army base in Germany and he was born on the base then he would be a Canadian citizen as the base would be considered Canadian soil much like an embassy in a foreign country is. I have an American friend who was born on a Naval base in Japan and he was born an American citizen.Edit: Wikipeida says that he was born in Germany because his father was playing hockey over there, no mention of the army, so he was born a German citizen and likely quickly naturalized shortly thereafter. My only point was that children born on army bases are usually considered citizens of the base country and not the country where the base is located.

Okay, your friend is an American citizen. Where does it say he was born on his birth certificate? That is my point.

[digitalmonkey 929]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Langway"Rod Cory Langway (born May 3, 1957 in Taipei, Taiwan) is a former American professional ice hockey defenceman in the National Hockey League (NHL), elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2002. He was born when his father, an American serviceman, was stationed in Taiwan, and he is the only NHL player to have been born in Taiwan."

[Babying 613]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Langway"Rod Cory Langway (born May 3, 1957 in Taipei, Taiwan) is a former American professional ice hockey defenceman in the National Hockey League (NHL), elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 2002. He was born when his father, an American serviceman, was stationed in Taiwan, and he is the only NHL player to have been born in Taiwan."

Rod Langway is Chinese? OMG!!!!!

[Belanger25 3]

I hope Visnovsky and Cammalleri would not see this site. Holy Hell. 7.4 for Visnovsky and 5.1 for Michael. That is one hell of a raise for both of them.

[strategy 4]

I hope Visnovsky and Cammalleri would not see this site. Holy Hell. 7.4 for Visnovsky and 5.1 for Michael. That is one hell of a raise for both of them.

Stempniak is supposedly worth $4.1M. He gets $500k this season, btw.

[digitalmonkey 929]

I hope Visnovsky and Cammalleri would not see this site. Holy Hell. 7.4 for Visnovsky and 5.1 for Michael. That is one hell of a raise for both of them.

The agents probably know about this site.

[serge 904]

This is interesting....According to this Wellwood should be the highest paid player on the Leafs and 19th highest in the NHL..ANd Pavel Kubina is a bargain at $5 million.....Hmmmm...

[doox 15]

I'm a little leery of this site, as far as the market value vs. actual salary stats. Looking at the Pens, it says most of the players are worth more than they're paid. While I can't argue that most are over-producing, it says Roberts should paid 1.2 million to leave town. I know a lot of fans aren't thrilled with Melichar, but to be worth negative $300k? How is Christensen only worth $100k? He has 16 goals and 12 assists. And Recchi is worth a million more than Malkin? Don't get me wrong - I love Recchi, but come on.

[serge 904]

I'm a little leery of this site, as far as the market value vs. actual salary stats. Looking at the Pens, it says most of the players are worth more than they're paid. While I can't argue that most are over-producing, it says Roberts should paid 1.2 million to leave town. I know a lot of fans aren't thrilled with Melichar, but to be worth negative $300k? How is Christensen only worth $100k? He has 16 goals and 12 assists. And Recchi is worth a million more than Malkin? Don't get me wrong - I love Recchi, but come on.

Yeah there are a lot of oddities..How can Sundin be worth only $2.2 million while Ponikarovsky is $4 Million...at first I thought this site was cool..but its a jokeBoyd Devereaux $3.2 million....A million more than Sundin...come on

[JavaGeek2 0]

Hello, I'm the administrator of that site. The primary goal of the site is for personal uses as it has information I like to have. Once I make a site for personal uses it's easy to share. Player's value is determined by results, if you cant get results you wont have value. Scoring goals is irrelevant (sounds strange), what matters is who you get those goals with (being the scorer of the goal or on the ice for the goal are considered equivalent). If all your goals are scored with Thornton maybe you don't really deserve the credit.With all statistics there are problems, primarily error. There are a number of things I do to control error, but if a player is having a bad (unlucky) year they will get a bad rating whether they are good or bad and that's how statistics work. So I'm not going to lie, there will be problems with the results and that's to be expected.The information on Wellwood vs. Sundin got me wondering what was wrong with my equation. I just noticed I was giving too much value to PP and PK situations and not enough to even strength situations. I fixed the formula and the results still don't give Sundin near $5M he probably is worth, it did push him to $3.6M.I thank you all for your interest and input into my site. The comments you share improve my data, which makes me happy.

[digitalmonkey 929]

Hello, I'm the administrator of that site. The primary goal of the site is for personal uses as it has information I like to have. Once I make a site for personal uses it's easy to share. Player's value is determined by results, if you cant get results you wont have value. Scoring goals is irrelevant (sounds strange), what matters is who you get those goals with (being the scorer of the goal or on the ice for the goal are considered equivalent). If all your goals are scored with Thornton maybe you don't really deserve the credit.With all statistics there are problems, primarily error. There are a number of things I do to control error, but if a player is having a bad (unlucky) year they will get a bad rating whether they are good or bad and that's how statistics work. So I'm not going to lie, there will be problems with the results and that's to be expected.The information on Wellwood vs. Sundin got me wondering what was wrong with my equation. I just noticed I was giving too much value to PP and PK situations and not enough to even strength situations. I fixed the formula and the results still don't give Sundin near $5M he probably is worth, it did push him to $3.6M.I thank you all for your interest and input into my site. The comments you share improve my data, which makes me happy.

Thanks for dropping in and for the info. I find your dedication extraordinary. I hope you'll drop back here from time to time.