Top 2 With A Scary Board

[ftwnyc 0]

Here's a hand that I played last night. Want to know if I made the right move here. It's a 1/2 NL game. The game is fairly loose and the BB in this game is coming off a major bad beat in which he lost most of his stack (he was the chip leader but is now the short stack).Hero ($450)SB ($750)BB ($200)Preflop: Hero is Button with Ah, Qh Hero raises to $20, SB calls, BB callsFlop: ($61) As, 4s, 4d (3 players)SB bets $15, BB calls, Hero raises to $45, SB folds, BB callsTurn: ($166) Qc (2 players)BB pushes all in for $135, Hero ?I don't put him on a 4 here. He wouldn't have called a $20 PF raise with a 4.

[Zach6668 513]

I don't put him on a 4 here. He wouldn't have called a $20 PF raise with a 4.

Then what exactly are you worried about?

[linkwood 0]

Then what exactly are you worried about?

Yeah, if you're not worried about a 4 then, unless he has qq or aa your hand is good. Couple things though, i think your flop raise was a bit small. If my math is right you made it 30 more to them and the pot is 136. You made it correct for any flush draw to stick around. Secondly, would this guy call a button raise with a4? What about 5s3s? If you're sure he can't have the 4 its an easy call. honestly, i don't think you can lay this hand down. His play doesn't really make sense. Just call 45 on the flop and then move in for 135 on the turn? I call this.

[Acid_Knight 2]

Here's a hand that I played last night. Want to know if I made the right move here. It's a 1/2 NL game. The game is fairly loose and the BB in this game is coming off a major bad beat in which he lost most of his stack (he was the chip leader but is now the short stack).Hero ($450)SB ($750)BB ($200)Preflop: Hero is Button with Ah, Qh Hero raises to $20, SB calls, BB callsFlop: ($61) As, 4s, 4d (3 players)SB bets $15, BB calls, Hero raises to $45, SB folds, BB callsTurn: ($166) Qc (2 players)BB pushes all in for $135, Hero breaks both wrists furiously shoving chips into the pot to call the bet. He is sad to realize that the $425 that he will win in the pot will not cover his medical expenses.I don't put him on a 4 here. He wouldn't have called a $20 PF raise with a 4.

[mtdesmoines 2]

Here's a hand that I played last night. Want to know if I made the right move here. It's a 1/2 NL game. The game is fairly loose and the BB in this game is coming off a major bad beat in which he lost most of his stack (he was the chip leader but is now the short stack).Hero ($450)SB ($750)BB ($200)Preflop: Hero is Button with Ah, Qh Hero raises to $20, SB calls, BB callsFlop: ($61) As, 4s, 4d (3 players)SB bets $15, BB calls, Hero raises to $45, SB folds, BB callsTurn: ($166) Qc (2 players)BB pushes all in for $135, Hero ?I don't put him on a 4 here. He wouldn't have called a $20 PF raise with a 4.

Autopush. And chop?

[Acid_Knight 2]

The topic says "Top 2 with a scary board."What is scary about that board given your holding?

[Zach6668 513]

The topic says "Top 2 with a scary board."What is scary about that board given your holding?

He probably lost to a flush draw.

[Acid_Knight 2]

He probably lost to a flush draw.

Get ready to move the post to the bad beat forum that I hear is down the street.Flush draw is too likely. Villain has pocket 2s. It's a dangerous board for AQ against two little duckies.

[Zach6668 513]

Get ready to move the post to the bad beat forum that I hear is down the street.Flush draw is too likely. Villain has pocket 2s. It's a dangerous board for AQ against two little duckies.

I had a guy play a flush draw exactly like this the other day.I called with like TP medium kicker, and he hit his flush :'( Such a hero call gone to waste. lol

[Naismith 0]

Count me amongst those that don't know what you're looking for here. If you're sure he doesn't have a four, you're getting it all in every single time. I think it will be extremely rare where your opponent isn't drawing dead to a chop in this situation. If he hit a one outter on you, so be it. Reload.EDIT: Unless the super secret riddle here is that he wouldn't call with "a" four and has quads. Hard to get him off quads unless the 2, 3 or 5 of spades hits and you can rep the steel wheel.

[Acid_Knight 2]

Count me amongst those that don't know what you're looking for here. If you're sure he doesn't have a four, you're getting it all in every single time. I think it will be extremely rare where your opponent isn't drawing dead to a chop in this situation. If he hit a one outter on you, so be it. Reload.

He can't chop. He's got a flush draw or he's drawing dead. If he had Ax, he can't win the hand becuase if the last A falls, we makes As full of Qs and he will have As full of 4s.I don't ever fold this hand here based on the action.

[Naismith 0]

He can't chop. He's got a flush draw or he's drawing dead. If he had Ax, he can't win the hand becuase if the last A falls, we makes As full of Qs and he will have As full of 4s.I don't ever fold this hand here based on the action.

So what happens if a four falls? The world explodes?

[Acid_Knight 2]

So what happens if a four falls? The world explodes?

AAAAAAACK!!!! Outsmarted by Naismith again. I hate my life.

[offmandh 0]

call. maybe QsKs? nut flush draw after the flop, paired up on the turn??? that seems reasonable. a 4 really doesnt.

[petersun 0]

If BB is loose, I've seen many players play 45 suited in these situations (multipot against two players who are likely to have big cards). So I don't understand why a 4 is not possible. Flush draw or a smaller ace are also strong possibilities. There is no reason not to call at this point given that villian's range is not limited to hands that dominate you.It's hard to evaulate because you're making a 10x bb raise. This is a 1/2NL game on steriods. Is it normal to open bet 10xbb? I assume it is since two people called.

[No_Neck 0]

I go broke every single time here.... I think naismith does too.

[Acid_Knight 2]

I go broke every single time here.... I think naismith does too.

He'd go broke with pocket 8s on that board, so that really shouldn't be any kind of standard to adhere to.