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Here's a hand that happened in a live tournament and I think I butchered it. It's been pretty standard to have 3-4 limpers in a pot. Post flop play has been tight. Any advice greatly appreciated:Blinds 25-50 8 HandedHero is BB with about 1700 in chips. MP1, CO, SB all call. Each has 1000-1200 in chips.Hero has Qs-10c and checks.Flop is A-K-J rainbow. SB checks, hero???

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I probably bet 200 unless I'm fairly sure someone is going to bet behind me (in which case I'd smooth call). I don't really think you need to worry much about protecting your hand because of the lack of a preflop raise. KJ and AJ are really the only hands that don't need runner runner to outdraw you. I'd focus on building the pot.

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bets. if you bet and they all folded, on we go.imo you are going to get a lot of action from hands people limp in live tourney's Ax, etc.then post in the tourney section.edit: i see, you're asking how much to bet. i bet 150-200 on the flop. this should be about right for one of them to take a card off. if the most tight/agg. guy at the table peels, i c/r turn all in or make a overbet value bet on the river if he checks behind on the turn.

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At any point in a hand when I decide Ive got the nuts and want to extract the most chips to the end I use the following rule of thumb: I try and figure out the maximum number of bets I am going to be able to make and have called, including 1 extra for a succesful check raise if Im out of position and think it wont kill the rest of the action or is on the river. Then I divide the smallest remaining stack by twice the number of bets remaining, with a minimum of 1/2 pot maximum pot on the flop, minimum of 3/4 pot and max of pot on the turn. River depends on whether you think he has a hand or not...check/push or suck bet"/push OOP and when you think you can get a raise out of him, push if you think hes got a monster (eg your boat vs his flush). IP follow his lead with the most you think you can get out of him.

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At any point in a hand when I decide Ive got the nuts and want to extract the most chips to the end I use the following rule of thumb: I try and figure out the maximum number of bets I am going to be able to make and have called, including 1 extra for a succesful check raise if Im out of position and think it wont kill the rest of the action or is on the river. Then I divide the smallest remaining stack by twice the number of bets remaining, with a minimum of 1/2 pot maximum pot on the flop, minimum of 3/4 pot and max of pot on the turn. River depends on whether you think he has a hand or not...check/push or suck bet"/push OOP and when you think you can get a raise out of him, push if you think hes got a monster (eg your boat vs his flush). IP follow his lead with the most you think you can get out of him.
Im sorry but that made no sense to me
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Im sorry but that made no sense to me
If you have two bets to go, and the second can comfortably be twice the first, then you would divide the "goal" for total chips by 3. If you have three bets to go, in a ratio of 1,2,4 you would divide by 7, and if you have 4 bets to go, a reasonable ratio might be 1, 2, 3, 4 you would divide by 10. Those are close enough to 2x the number of bets to go, especially after constraining by the bottom and top limits
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Man, that's complicated.I think a bet of 150-200 will scare off too many of the limpers, especially since you mentioned that post-flop play has been tight at the table. I'd be inclined to make a really small bet (trying to make it look like you connected with something but are afraid to bet bigger), in which case you might get a raise from someone, or just check if you feel confident that one of them will bet.

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Man, that's complicated.I think a bet of 150-200 will scare off too many of the limpers, especially since you mentioned that post-flop play has been tight at the table. I'd be inclined to make a really small bet (trying to make it look like you connected with something but are afraid to bet bigger), in which case you might get a raise from someone, or just check if you feel confident that one of them will bet.
Depends on the quality of the players, but to me a small bet screams monster and is only getting called/raised by someone with a decent hand (2pr, tpgk, etc.) And if that's the only thing calling or raising here, lets extract more chips out of him. I'm betting 3/4 pot for 150 here.
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If post flop play has been tight, a bet here might risk getting any value out of flopping the nuts. A check call or check raise is a good play here. Even if the board pairs on the turn, you can't be too worried about a boat with no preflop raisers. IF someone is slow playing AA, KK or JJ you should see a bet on the flop after you check because the board is dangerous to a set.Once that feeler bet is out there, you can check raise big and get them out or smooth call and raise on turn (the latter being more risky of the board does pair).

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I don't like a pot sized bet. We have a huge hand but a very tiny pot. We want to bring the pot up a little bit. If you bet the pot, you're giving players too much of a reason to fold. I don't wanna scare off hands like JT or KQ here. I do think that you need to bet. I think if you bet half of the pot (100 chips) that it will accomplish several things.1. It will hopefully get some chips moving into the pot, which is a good thing when you got the nuts2. It doesn't look too susiciously small or large where it could discourage action3. It is an easy bet for your opponents to reraise if they read weakness in the bet4. It disguises your hand becuase most players will not lead with the nuts here.Against 3 limpers, I'm sure that someone connected with that flop and if so, they'll likely call or raise a 100 chip bet.

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I don't like a pot sized bet. We have a huge hand but a very tiny pot. We want to bring the pot up a little bit. If you bet the pot, you're giving players too much of a reason to fold. I don't wanna scare off hands like JT or KQ here. I do think that you need to bet. I think if you bet half of the pot (100 chips) that it will accomplish several things.1. It will hopefully get some chips moving into the pot, which is a good thing when you got the nuts2. It doesn't look too susiciously small or large where it could discourage action3. It is an easy bet for your opponents to reraise if they read weakness in the bet4. It disguises your hand becuase most players will not lead with the nuts here.Against 3 limpers, I'm sure that someone connected with that flop and if so, they'll likely call or raise a 100 chip bet.
I agree. It's very likely that somebody has a pair, and probably with a straight draw as well. 100 sounds good to me as well.
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