kkcountry 0 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 casino windsor lhe 3/68 handedreads: SB has seen every flop, check called flop, in a previous hand, he led into me from SB on turn and river with A3o on a 269[A][T] board after i raised UTG+1 with AJs (i just called the turn and river on that hand )BTN also played nearly every hand, bet, raised a lot of flops with weak holdings (bet out on AQ5 board from SB with 77) has called multiple single bets on the river with nothing "because the pot was so big"kkcountry is UTG+1 with T 7 :diamond:UTG calls, hero calls, MP1 folds, MP2 calls, CO folds, BTN calls, SB completes, BB checksflop: (6 handed, pot $15)A T Q :diamond:SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, hero checks, MP2 bets, BTN raises, SB 3-bets, BB folds, hero calls, MP2 calls, BTN callsturn (4 handed, pot $46)J :club:SB bets, hero calls, MP2 folds, BTN callsriver (3 handed, pot $64)3 :diamond:SB bets, hero calls...i was pretty sure I had the best hand by the river, but does anybody have a problem with my calling on the river? i didn't want to get 3 bet by a better flush, and if the button had nothing, he had shown that he was capable of making a call on the river with just about anything. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 17, 2007 Share Posted March 17, 2007 With the way you described the BTN, you need to raise the river.For one, you make the same amount if BTN folds and SB calls, secondly, you can make more if they both call.Also, lead the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
kkcountry 0 Posted March 18, 2007 Author Share Posted March 18, 2007 For one, you make the same amount if BTN folds and SB calls, secondly, you can make more if they both call.Also, lead the flop.BTN wasn't going to call 12 bucks out of curiosity, and like you said, if he folds and SB calls, and i'm good, i get the same number of bets in. if BTN/SB has a higher flush i lose 2 big bets by raising, and .5 by calling (assuming if the SB has me beat, the BTN will not raise closing the action)i agree that i should have lead the flop Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 BTN wasn't going to call 12 bucks out of curiosity, and like you said, if he folds and SB calls, and i'm good, i get the same number of bets in. if BTN/SB has a higher flush i lose 2 big bets by raising, and .5 by calling (assuming if the SB has me beat, the BTN will not raise closing the action)i agree that i should have lead the flopYou really think SB has a flush? In a loose passive game, I'd say he has a flush here 1% of the time.Button, same thing. Why would he raise the flop with a flush draw to charge the field with 2 cold? Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 18, 2007 Share Posted March 18, 2007 I'm with Zach.I too, tended to not raise the river enough, justifying it because of the win two/lose 3 idea.Button is getting $84 to call $12, SB rarely has a flush or better flush..sometimes 3 betting a worse flush.please lead that flop.And then you'd want to cap it.As played, still cap it!! Link to post Share on other sites
shpaget 0 Posted March 19, 2007 Share Posted March 19, 2007 If you're only against two opponents, I NEVER go for the overcall...If you raise, and get a fold-call, you're gonna get the same money as getting an overcall....raise, and hope for a call for two bets from the guy....and a guy like that will call two bets with the straight.I am loving a three-bet here...so often it's an idiot with a straight, or a worse flush.Cap the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 It's already been said, but if you're going to play these cards from this position, you've absolutely got to lead this flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Actuary 3 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 oh, Cobalt reminds me, the preflop is a fold.I was going to say that in the initial post but the flop play made me forget Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 oh, Cobalt reminds me, the preflop is a fold.I was going to say that in the initial post but the flop play made me forgetPreflop has got to be fine in these loose games. 2 gappers too much? Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Preflop has got to be fine in these loose games. 2 gappers too much?Even so, it's still pretty loose. Can defend it more from MP3 and CO than UTG+1. Link to post Share on other sites
thecove 0 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Gotta raise here, the only diamonds that are beating you is a K or J.Then call if you get reraised.If you get beat, "Nice Hand" Hmmmm I still wonder what the SB has, maybe Kd-Jd? He should have raised pre flop. But that hand could be a real possibility for him to call with OOP. Also that is a great flop for him to check raise the flop then bet the turn and river Link to post Share on other sites
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