digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 Who does it and who thinks it's a crock of shit? I recycle AND think it's a crock. Link to post Share on other sites
ricker 0 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 reeeeeeeeeeeeee cyyyyyyyyyy cllllllll iiiiiiiiiing?I'm afraid I'm not familar with that term you adorable little ragamuffin.... Link to post Share on other sites
JoeyJoJo 18 Posted March 12, 2007 Share Posted March 12, 2007 reeeeeeeeeeeeee cyyyyyyyyyy cllllllll iiiiiiiiiing?I'm afraid I'm not familar with that term you adorable little ragamuffin.... Link to post Share on other sites
ricker 0 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 ahhh The Simpons back when it was worth watching... Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 reeeeeeeeeeeeee cyyyyyyyyyy cllllllll iiiiiiiiiing?I'm afraid I'm not familar with that term you adorable little ragamuffin....Yeah, that's what I thought of when I heard the topic too.I do it. I haven't done enough research to know whether or not it's a crock or not. I can't really imagine that it is, though. At very worse it could be almost neutral. I'm sure it's much more of a crock with certain things than others (glass vs paper, etc), though I have no idea which ones or why.So, uh, I have absolutely nothing to add. Link to post Share on other sites
pckt10s 0 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I hated writing on that recycled paper they used to sell when I was in elementary school... you'd erase something and it would mess up the paper...also, I used to recycle bottles and cans at the grocery store, where they had the self serve machines up front... put a botttle in and hear it get shredded up... and than the nickel would drop... Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I hated writing on that recycled paper they used to sell when I was in elementary school... you'd erase something and it would mess up the paper...also, I used to recycle bottles and cans at the grocery store, where they had the self serve machines up front... put a botttle in and hear it get shredded up... and than the nickel would drop...I wanna recycle Vida.. whatever that means.. Link to post Share on other sites
showstopper24 0 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Who does it and who thinks it's a crock of shit? I recycle AND think it's a crock.me too, i put bottles in the 'blue bag' but i doubt that makes a difference Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 there was a summer in high school when i worked for the school district, and about once every two weeks we had to take a few trucks full of old beat up desks and file cabinets and dump them at a landfill. no matter what time of day we went there was a constant, steady stream of garbage trucks - the place was always completely full. by the end of the summer it was clear how much the landfill had grown... just an insane amount. it was both disgusting and scary.i recycle everything now. if you ever want to make someone feel better about recycling, take them to a landfill. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Penn & Teller Bullsh!t season 2, episode recycling.[/recycling] Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 I don't. Mainly cause it's far too much hassle. I thought I heard recently it's a law in chicago. Is that right? Anyone know? Not that it's gonna change anything. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 Penn & Teller Bullsh!t season 2, episode recycling.[/recycling]forming opinions based off of the biased viewpoints of entertainers like penn & teller & john stossel & michael moore & anyone who tries to present themselves as a whistleblower on issues that obviously contradict their personal politics:/intelligence Link to post Share on other sites
coesillian 0 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 conspiracy theory? Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 My understanding is the recycling is almost always a net negative for the environment. This is just based on a variety of reports on both sides, but I haven't seen recent reports or really convincing reports either way.I try to recycle, but it appears to be a joke. We have a separate container, and I dutifully separate the cans, bottles, and papers, and then the garbage truck comes and dumps them all together in the back of the truck. No, it's not a separate compartment. The garbage and the recycling are mixed and all get compressed together.I still do it because it saves us from buying so many garbage bags.It is much more efficient to save on the "reduce" and "reuse" side than the "recycle" side. Buy products that use less packing material (for example, buy in bulk and break stuff into smaller, reusable containers at home). Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 forming opinions based off of the biased viewpoints of entertainers like penn & teller & john stossel & michael moore & anyone who tries to present themselves as a whistleblower on issues that obviously contradict their personal politics:/intelligenceThat's a cop out. Link to post Share on other sites
spm 1 Posted March 13, 2007 Share Posted March 13, 2007 My understanding is the recycling is almost always a net negative for the environment. This is just based on a variety of reports on both sides, but I haven't seen recent reports or really convincing reports either way.I try to recycle, but it appears to be a joke. We have a separate container, and I dutifully separate the cans, bottles, and papers, and then the garbage truck comes and dumps them all together in the back of the truck. No, it's not a separate compartment. The garbage and the recycling are mixed and all get compressed together.I still do it because it saves us from buying so many garbage bags.It is much more efficient to save on the "reduce" and "reuse" side than the "recycle" side. Buy products that use less packing material (for example, buy in bulk and break stuff into smaller, reusable containers at home).I'm confused as to how recycling can be a negative for the environment. I not read any reports for the 'against' side.Surely to recycle anything doesn't involve, or uses less of a 'new' component. If you recycle cardboard surely there is a drastic drop in the need of tree felling etc.It's pretty poor though that you have made an effort and the garbage people mix it together though. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 13, 2007 Author Share Posted March 13, 2007 I'm confused as to how recycling can be a negative for the environment. I not read any reports for the 'against' side.Surely to recycle anything doesn't involve, or uses less of a 'new' component. If you recycle cardboard surely there is a drastic drop in the need of tree felling etc.It's pretty poor though that you have made an effort and the garbage people mix it together though.You are not considering the cost and energy needed to collect and process the materials. And as for saving trees: trees are specifically grown for paper. Link to post Share on other sites
mk 11 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 That's a cop out.what?You are not considering the cost and energy needed to collect and process the materials. And as for saving trees: trees are specifically grown for paper. what? Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 what?what?Yes, they plant trees to grow for paper use. They also grow trees to be used as Christmas trees. It's amazing I know, but true.http://www.tappi.org/paperu/all_about_pape...s/GrowTree1.htm Link to post Share on other sites
Tailspin 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 Yes, they plant trees to grow for paper use. They also grow trees to be used as Christmas trees. It's amazing I know, but true.thats crazy.. next you will say they grow chickens and cows specifically for food Link to post Share on other sites
MorphyATL 0 Posted March 14, 2007 Share Posted March 14, 2007 If you think that you are saving the world when you recycle, well you aren't. If you are recycling because it makes you feel good, well awesome! Keep it up.If a town is forcing its citizens to recycle, well then thats what we call a government subsidy of big business. You see, it costs companies more to recycle most materials than it costs for those same materials to be reharvested or remanufactured. In addition, it often pollutes more than original harvesting. In order to offset this, some local government are paying companies to handle their recycling, and as a part of that deal all people within their governance must take part. So basically, a local government has sold its citizens' freedom of choice to a private corporation.One exception to the cost differential is aluminum. Ever notice how you see bums on the street collecting them? Thats because money can be made doing so. That means that recycling aluminum cans, foil, etc can actually be a beneficial endeavor for everybody involved (except for aluminum miners of course). So from here on out, lets use this formula:If its worth a bum's time to perform the collection of the item for recycling, then its possibly worth having a truck roll to your house to come and pick it up. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 14, 2007 Author Share Posted March 14, 2007 If you think that you are saving the world when you recycle, well you aren't. If you are recycling because it makes you feel good, well awesome! Keep it up.If a town is forcing its citizens to recycle, well then thats what we call a government subsidy of big business. You see, it costs companies more to recycle most materials than it costs for those same materials to be reharvested or remanufactured. In addition, it often pollutes more than original harvesting. In order to offset this, some local government are paying companies to handle their recycling, and as a part of that deal all people within their governance must take part. So basically, a local government has sold its citizens' freedom of choice to a private corporation.One exception to the cost differential is aluminum. Ever notice how you see bums on the street collecting them? Thats because money can be made doing so. That means that recycling aluminum cans, foil, etc can actually be a beneficial endeavor for everybody involved (except for aluminum miners of course). So from here on out, lets use this formula:If its worth a bum's time to perform the collection of the item for recycling, then its possibly worth having a truck roll to your house to come and pick it up.Yeah, I saw that episode of Bullshit too. Did you cut and paste that drectly from the script? Link to post Share on other sites
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