Worth A Value Bet On River? - Underfull On River In Horse $10 Mtt

[Jam-Fly 8]

PokerStars Game #8746764826: Tournament #44300382, $10+$1 HORSE (Omaha Hi/Lo Limit) - Level II (30/60) - 2007/03/05 - 04:07:11 (ET)Table '44300382 3' 8-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: necromastr (2160 in chips) Seat 2: TokTobbe (1774 in chips) Seat 3: HardcorePawn (2543 in chips) Seat 4: spider425 (1460 in chips) Seat 5: Nick_Foxx (1810 in chips) Seat 6: TAMPAPETE (635 in chips) Seat 7: SatchelDad (1695 in chips) Seat 8: 60tinman (2323 in chips) Nick_Foxx: posts small blind 15TAMPAPETE: posts big blind 30*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to HardcorePawn [7c Jh 9c 7h]SatchelDad: folds 60tinman: folds necromastr: folds TokTobbe: calls 30HardcorePawn: calls 30spider425: folds Nick_Foxx: folds TAMPAPETE: raises 30 to 60TokTobbe: calls 30HardcorePawn: calls 30*** FLOP *** [Th 7s Tc]TAMPAPETE: bets 30TokTobbe: calls 30HardcorePawn: raises 30 to 60TAMPAPETE: raises 30 to 90TokTobbe: folds HardcorePawn: raises 30 to 120Betting is cappedTAMPAPETE: calls 30*** TURN *** [Th 7s Tc] [Js]TAMPAPETE: bets 60HardcorePawn: raises 60 to 120TAMPAPETE: raises 60 to 180HardcorePawn: raises 60 to 240Betting is cappedTAMPAPETE: calls 60*** RIVER *** [Th 7s Tc Js] [3d]TAMPAPETE: bets 60HardcorePawn: ???I think I was too loose pre flop for sure, but I was mainly playing the tournament for entertainment, and my pre flop selection wasn't very selective. I am wondering if it worth a value bet on river. Villain seems a little loose. I think since I have a jack, it is less likely for him to have one (ie JT). Thoughts?

[Moneyball16 0]

I would never ever value raise this. I would also almost never ever cap the turn. Underfulls are pretty shitty given this much action.

[Zach6668 513]

I like the pretty colours.

[David_Nicoson 1]

I think the best reason to raise this river is for negative reinforcement of the preflop call.

[Jam-Fly 8]

I would never ever value raise this. I would also almost never ever cap the turn. Underfulls are pretty shitty given this much action.

Yeah, that's kinda what the question is about, when is time to just call down. But the guy was very loose and could easily have had a hane 89Tx or something

[Vman96 0]

I think the best reason to raise this river is for negative reinforcement of the preflop call.

Definitely the best reason to raise this river.as played: Either fold to the flop 3-bet, or call down the whole way and pray he is betting AT. Also, if the other person would have cold-called your raise...fold to the 3-bet. Underfulls blow...avoid them like the plague.Edit: Oh since you raised the turn (why?????) I would fold to the turn 3-bet. Seriously.

[Chamonyx 0]

key question here is your read of villain. it is level 2 and he has blown 2/3 of his chips, plus he raised from bb. has he been raising a lot pf or does he need to have a hand? if you think he is looking to go home then jam the heck out of this. if you have seen him be even slightly selective then I would slow down on the turn.yes, flat calling preflop is horrible with your hand- even a raise would have been better.

[Vman96 0]

key question here is your read of villain. it is level 2 and he has blown 2/3 of his chips, plus he raised from bb.

Whoops I missed this. Cham is right...if he has raised with air before...then raise away...otherwise call down.