Tipping The Dealer

[freak2304 0]

Here's an argument against what the OP suggested also. Say you decide to wait until the end to tip. You win a good amount of pots while they're there where you could've already tipped $5-$10 for the pots you dragged. Then, towards the end of the dealers sit, you get involved in a cooler hand or get sucked out on and go broke. You're upset, not happy, and call it a night with no tip going towards the dealer for all that time.

[ukwildcat09 0]

What I don't understand is that dealers make pretty decent money and you guys argue to tip more. Dealers are making more then a lot of poker players per hour. Not all, but a lot of low limit players. If the dealer gets a $1 tip per hand, then they are making 25-30 bucks from that per hour, plus the flat wage they are getting. That's an amazing amount of money per hour for an uneducated manual labor job that really isn't that hard.

[Grumpy 0]

What I don't understand is that dealers make pretty decent money and you guys argue to tip more. Dealers are making more then a lot of poker players per hour. Not all, but a lot of low limit players. If the dealer gets a $1 tip per hand, then they are making 25-30 bucks from that per hour, plus the flat wage they are getting. That's an amazing amount of money per hour for an uneducated manual labor job that really isn't that hard.

SO TRUE.I must say I top a lot. I tip when I win, I tip when the dealer makes a good comment and I tip in the end of the session. But when I think about it, your way is very smart. And yes as you said dealers do make a lot of money, the tips are a pure EXTRA. It's not like other jobs that without tips they won't make anything.And about delaers that get mad, those dealers don't get a dollar from me. If a dealer is not proffesional enough to accept the fact not everyone tips, he shouldn't get anything.

[StrippersNBlow 0]

What I don't understand is that dealers make pretty decent money and you guys argue to tip more. Dealers are making more then a lot of poker players per hour. Not all, but a lot of low limit players. If the dealer gets a $1 tip per hand, then they are making 25-30 bucks from that per hour, plus the flat wage they are getting. That's an amazing amount of money per hour for an uneducated manual labor job that really isn't that hard.

You think that most dealers make 30-40 dollars an hour? Wow. Exactly how long does it take a person to make themselves believe that all service industry people are making so much money that they should find another job if they don't like being stiffed or abused? Hopefully the real world doesn't shock you too badly.

[Grumpy 0]

You think that most dealers make 30-40 dollars an hour? Wow. Exactly how long does it take a person to make themselves believe that all service industry people are making so much money that they should find another job if they don't like being stiffed or abused? Hopefully the real world doesn't shock you too badly.

Most dealers make 13-15$ an hour, which isnt bad, at all.

[StrippersNBlow 0]

SO TRUE.I must say I top a lot. I tip when I win, I tip when the dealer makes a good comment and I tip in the end of the session. But when I think about it, your way is very smart. And yes as you said dealers do make a lot of money, the tips are a pure EXTRA. It's not like other jobs that without tips they won't make anything.And about delaers that get mad, those dealers don't get a dollar from me. If a dealer is not proffesional enough to accept the fact not everyone tips, he shouldn't get anything.

Tips are pure EXTRA over the "lot of money" they do make? Tipping sounds like a power trip with you, not gratuity for service received. I would love to play at the casino where dealers made 7-9 base pay only, and everyone stiffed them. All the low limit wannabe pros who needed to save a dollar would be on tilt and easy pickings. They'd leave after a couple of hours and go honk their horns in the drivethru at McDonalds.

[StrippersNBlow 0]

Most dealers make 13-15$ an hour, which isnt bad, at all.

No, it's not bad, but it's a far cry from the 30-40 that our kentucky econ major pulled out of his ass. If numbers speak for themselves then there's no reason to grossly exaggerate.This has been gone over far too many times. If you don't like the way our society compensates the service industry, stay home with a 6 pack, a frozen pizza, and play online. I'm speaking in general Grumpy, not really at you.

[swahnroger 0]

Imagine if you had a deal with a dealer or waittress. You win a big pot and realize you are the donkey at the table. You give the guy a $300 tip in order to get money off the table - it shouldn't be allowed.. Period. It is a form of cheating that I know people use (ive seen ridiculous tips and have told a floorman to which he has said there is nothing he can do).

If you are the donkey at the table, wouldn't it be easier to just take that big pot and leave the table?

[blacktie31 0]

I do tip at the Hustler in their tournaments however. They are the only tournies I've played that DO NOT pull from the prize pool for tips. But I still only tip like $15-20 even if I win $5000. It just cuts too much into my profit at the end of the day and since I have become much more serious into this, I realized that the "cheap" pros actually have it right. Here's the sick part. If theres a serious donkey at the table who is drinking and wins a big pot. I actually get pissed when he tosses $10 to the dealer. Thats $10 that just came off the table! I actually think it should be disallowed that tips come off the table. Just like food or massages. You shouldnt be allowed to pull money off the table EVER. Imagine if you had a deal with a dealer or waittress. You win a big pot and realize you are the donkey at the table. You give the guy a $300 tip in order to get money off the table - it shouldn't be allowed.. Period. It is a form of cheating that I know people use (ive seen ridiculous tips and have told a floorman to which he has said there is nothing he can do).

Why would you tip in tournaments? By your own logic the dealers should just quit if they don't like not getting paid a resonable wage for dealing them.Your stance is way - life EV

[freak2304 0]

What I don't understand is that dealers make pretty decent money and you guys argue to tip more. Dealers are making more then a lot of poker players per hour. Not all, but a lot of low limit players. If the dealer gets a $1 tip per hand, then they are making 25-30 bucks from that per hour, plus the flat wage they are getting. That's an amazing amount of money per hour for an uneducated manual labor job that really isn't that hard.

As someone who's worked in the service industry (waiter and bartender) for the past 5 years, people like this drive me nuts. They don't seem to realize/don't want to believe that most service job's pay is comprised primarily from tips. Dealers obviously make a better hourly than waiters and bartenders, but tips still make up probably half of their income.

[swahnroger 0]

Hey guys,I wanted to float an idea that I've been kicking around in my head. Before I propose this, I want you to know that I'm not a cheapskate. I believe that dealers have largely thankless jobs, are underpaid, and deserve all the tips that they get. From my experiences, I noticed that people usually tip the dealer after winning a hand, as have I to this point. I think that it might be better, however, to tip the dealer at the end of their dealing session as opposed to tipping after individual hands. I think that you should not be tipping the dealer because you're winning, but because of the quality of service you're receiving. Under this system, I would tip the dealer at the end of their session, regardless as to whether I won a hand during that time. I wouldn't tip the dealer more if I had an extremely profitable session, because I think a profitable session and good dealing are two distinct entities. Should I reward a dealer who continually flips cards and runs the table poorly just because they deal me aces and I rake a pot? I think not. On the other hand, should I not reward a dealer who deals well and keeps the pace of play quick just because I don't have good results? I think not. Let me know what you guys think, because I'm strongly considering using this system of tipping from now on. Thanks.

Or, from a different perspective... Don't tip at all. The casino should be paying a decent salary. And If the salary is bad, then don't work there. Likewise, if the dealer is not doing his/her job, then fire the dealer. Just like at any other job. You don't tip the checkout person at the grocery store, do you?

[freak2304 0]

Or, from a different perspective... Don't tip at all. The casino should be paying a decent salary. And If the salary is bad, then don't work there. Likewise, if the dealer is not doing his/her job, then fire the dealer. Just like at any other job. You don't tip the checkout person at the grocery store, do you?

ahhhhhh, yet another guy who I'm sure takes his woman to a fancy dinner at Applebee's, racks up a $50 check, and leaves a buck for the waiter for his trouble.

[blacktie31 0]

What I don't understand is that dealers make pretty decent money and you guys argue to tip more. Dealers are making more then a lot of poker players per hour. Not all, but a lot of low limit players. If the dealer gets a $1 tip per hand, then they are making 25-30 bucks from that per hour, plus the flat wage they are getting. That's an amazing amount of money per hour for an uneducated manual labor job that really isn't that hard.

This might be true if they came to work and delt constantly for their entire shift.

[StrippersNBlow 0]

You don't tip the checkout person at the grocery store, do you?

Yes, that's a very unique perspective. Did you even bother reading the thread?

[untunga 0]

I tip a dollar for every one of my pots... three dollars if it is a big one. If I like the service I got I will also throw out a red chip before I leave. Every dealer knows me and the service I get is great.

[swahnroger 0]

Yes, that's a very unique perspective. Did you even bother reading the thread?

Yes I did. What makes you ask?

[DoinSublime 0]

ahhhhhh, yet another guy who I'm sure takes his woman to a fancy dinner at Applebee's, racks up a $50 check, and leaves a buck for the waiter for his trouble.

QFT

[swahnroger 0]

ahhhhhh, yet another guy who I'm sure takes his woman to a fancy dinner at Applebee's, racks up a $50 check, and leaves a buck for the waiter for his trouble.

Instead of being a schmuck, explain what part of my argument you did not agree with?

[freak2304 0]

Or, from a different perspective... Don't tip at all. The casino should be paying a decent salary. And If the salary is bad, then don't work there. Likewise, if the dealer is not doing his/her job, then fire the dealer. Just like at any other job. You don't tip the checkout person at the grocery store, do you?

Pretty much just what's in bold

[the shank 0]

it's a far cry from the 30-40 that our kentucky econ major pulled out of his as

how so. im sure ur right but why is it so ridiculous to assume dealers take in about 25$ in tips from a session and with their hourly they make about 30 as he said.

[freak2304 0]

how so. im sure ur right but why is it so rediculous to assume dealers take in about 25$ in tips from a session and with their hourly they make about 30 as he said.

Do you really think dealers make 60K a year???

[profxavier9 0]

people take tipping too serious in north america in my opinion. If you can afford to tip someone and you feel they deserve it, do it. If your broke *** poor and the person is a prick i dont see why you would. I own a bussiness with my brothers, a deli i dont accept tips EVER what the hell for?because i did what im supposed do? big deal although ive never been offered any "big" amount for a tip maybe 5-10 bucks is pretty standard. I doubt id turn down a 50 though.... hell im not perfect.

[the shank 0]

im sure ur right

next time read more than the first two words

[Balloon guy 158]

I don't just tip, I over-tip.. That is my philosophy.Sometimes I bluff tip though, you know throw them a $5 every time you win for a little while, build up a table image, then when you rake a big pot, pull out 3 $5 chips and pretend to throw them. The dealers always fall for it. Good times

[swahnroger 0]

Pretty much just what's in bold

When someone is wrong, they don't like to debate the finer points of their arguments. As this wouldonly prove that they are wrong. You fall into that category.