Influcted 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I'm quitting this shit.Badbeat magnet ftw Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 wow did you just take a shot at a higher limit? What the hell happened? Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 wow did you jump limits for the billionth time with a 3BI roll after being repeatedly told that it's a terrible ideaFYPBoy am I in a bad mood today, I think I'll try and get some sleep Link to post Share on other sites
KHSPoker21 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Bump. I already gave my opinion on this one in private. Want some discussion without my bias.In all honesty, my first thought was 3bet floop w/ omgsh i has 2 over and a fd!!! Since I actually took time to think about it....That line looks a ton like AcJx, I know you said he looked spewy but w/ minimal reads and not really any #s I think it's a fold or 3bet. What were you looking for on the turn that would make you like your hand more? (serious question, not trying to be dickish)Also, I know if you call turn you're pretty much calling all rivers but unless he's a complete spewtard it's hard to see him shoving anything you beat.edit #1: Philadelphia Phillies are '08 world champs Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Thoughts on this line? Don't have many hands on villain but he seems a little spewy.Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 playersThe Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterBTN: $101.50SB: $47.65BB: $99.85UTG: $23.50Hero (CO): $102.40Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with Qc Kh1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, 2 foldsFlop: ($8.50) Jc 5c 8c (2 players)Hero bets $6, BTN raises to $18, Hero calls $12Turn: ($44.50) 9c (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $26, Hero calls $26River: ($96.50) Kd (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $54 all in, Hero calls $54Final Pot: $204.50Fold flop. If you call the flop once a club comes there's no point in folding or you shouldn't have called the flop.Spew or good line? 23/15/5, but we've had some history together and he has been pretty loose/spewy.Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 playersThe Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterUTG: $198.05Hero (MP): $275.80CO: $100.00BTN: $110.60SB: $150.95BB: $100.00Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 9c 9s1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50Flop: ($11.00) 8d 4c 8s (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $7.50, BTN raises to $24, BB folds, Hero calls $16.50Turn: ($59.00) 4s (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $36, Hero calls $36River: ($131.00) Qd (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $47.10 all in, Hero calls $47.10 I think I'm folding turn...Same. Again, after you call turn, there's no point in folding the river though.Also, any reason you are raising to 3.5x pre? Link to post Share on other sites
Citizen Erased 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Finally back on FCP after having a break to avoid learning about the WSOP. Turns out I could have visited here (thread) and have been fine all along. Ah well.Had a nice tilt-enducing 3-day saga of HEM not working. Finally got it sorted when one of the main guys came on TeamViewer and did it for me. That was kewl. He also said he'd never seen a problem like mine before. Check me out :)Quick question: On people's HUDs, what colour ranges do people have for 6m?Also, what are good numbers to judge someone's WentToSD and W$SD on? I think ~22 and ~45, respectively, are what to aim for, so I could make reads if someone's deviating from there?I think these are two stats on the HUD I don't exploit enough, and would like to change that fact.Oh, also, does anyone know if we're allowed to datamine on Absolute? I asked support, but they didn't know what datamining was (ftr, this was the dumbest person I'd spoken to in a while, though) Boy am I in a bad mood today, I think I'll try and get some sleep I'm sorry I didn't sweat you. My uncle arrived early and I was home alone so had to entertain. No need to get upset over it, Aussie!!<3Hope everyone's good. Link to post Share on other sites
KHSPoker21 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 King, 2nd hand Im folding as well, what are you expecting villian to have that you beat? Like I said before though, you cant fold river once you get there even thought its ghey.edit #2: Philadelphia Phillies are '08 world champs. Link to post Share on other sites
KHSPoker21 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Quick question: On people's HUDs, what colour ranges do people have for 6m?Also, what are good numbers to judge someone's WentToSD and W$SD on? I think ~22 and ~45, respectively, are what to aim for, so I could make reads if someone's deviating from there?I think these are two stats on the HUD I don't exploit enough, and would like to change that fact.VPIP red<15 orange <25 and green for restPFR green<10 orange<18 and red for restW$SD 45 is def too low, methinks >50% is solid. WentSD should be higher too, somewhere around 26 imo. There's a checkup article in HEM that explains where your stats should be and how they correlate to other winning players. Obv it may be skewed in diff directions but interesting nonetheless.edit #3: Philadelphia Phillies are '08 world champs Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Same. Again, after you call turn, there's no point in folding the river though.Also, any reason you are raising to 3.5x pre?FTP = Pot button = Mash it all day Link to post Share on other sites
Influcted 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 FYPBoy am I in a bad mood today, I think I'll try and get some sleep Not true. After that huge downswing at like 11k I went back to 25NL and just got badbeat after badbeat and now I'm at -302.95 and quitting basically. I just kept getting runner runnered so maybe in a few months I'll start playing again or something. Link to post Share on other sites
AcesOnFire 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Spew or good line? 23/15/5, but we've had some history together and he has been pretty loose/spewy.Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 playersThe Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterUTG: $198.05Hero (MP): $275.80CO: $100.00BTN: $110.60SB: $150.95BB: $100.00Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP with 9c 9s1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50Flop: ($11.00) 8d 4c 8s (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $7.50, BTN raises to $24, BB folds, Hero calls $16.50Turn: ($59.00) 4s (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $36, Hero calls $36River: ($131.00) Qd (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $47.10 all in, Hero calls $47.10Perhaps folding turn, hurling my cards at the muck on that river. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Thoughts on this line? Don't have many hands on villain but he seems a little spewy.Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 playersThe Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterBTN: $101.50SB: $47.65BB: $99.85UTG: $23.50Hero (CO): $102.40Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with Qc Kh1 fold, Hero raises to $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, 2 foldsFlop: ($8.50) Jc 5c 8c (2 players)Hero bets $6, BTN raises to $18, Hero calls $12Turn: ($44.50) 9c (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $26, Hero calls $26River: ($96.50) Kd (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $54 all in, Hero calls $54Final Pot: $204.50Fold flop......even cards that look good could be very bad. Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I manage to watch the final table and the only spoilers I saw before the event were Chino being knockout at some point from pokerbay.com Demidov being one of the two players that get to HU play from pokertube.comso in my efforts to get the event it got spoiled anyway. Not as bad as it could of been though so thanks challenge thread. Link to post Share on other sites
Acid_Knight 2 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Your new strategy should include paying me not to go on vacation anymore.This is a reasonable idea. Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I'd fold the first hand on the flop, but given that you called down all the way 2 buy-ins deep I imagine you had a pretty good reason to do so, which makes it probably a lot closer than I think it is atm. If you really have got the dynamic where you can be confident in playing it like that, then I can imagine the flop call being ok, but against standard players I would just muck. Giving more info on what your exact history is with him would help a lot I think.Not much clue about the second one, I suck at hands like that. Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 [x] make hand[x] get paid[ ] games are drying upFull Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 5 playersThe Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterCO: $22.85BTN: $203.05SB: $128.15BB: $107.35Hero (UTG): $108.95Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with A J Hero raises to $3.50, 3 folds, BB calls $2.50Flop: ($7.50) 9 A 6 (2 players)BB bets $103.85 all in, Hero calls $103.85Turn: ($215.20) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)River: ($215.20) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)Final Pot: $215.20BB shows 5 A (a pair of Aces)Hero shows A J (a pair of Aces)Hero wins $212.20(Rake: $3.00) Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Per the King hands:I think the first one is a definite fold flop, and it's not really close at all. Overs and a flush draw aren't the same on a monotone board. Additionally, you are drawing to the third nut flush OOP 2 buyins deep, which is just pretty bad. Your equity is just pretty terrible vs a huge range of hands.Second hand, I fold turn for sure. I might even fold flop depending on opponent. An 8 is definitely in his range. You are OOP and will be guessing the rest of the hand and most of the deck is not going to be favorable for you. Link to post Share on other sites
KHSPoker21 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 On both hands they are no more than 110bbs effective ftr. King made the 100NL jump.And re my post on the first hand, the more I think about it the more sure I am that you might as well have air and put ur opponent on a bluff/super weak if you're ging to 3bet. Folding is def the best option barring those things.Philadelphia Phillies are '08 world champs. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 On both hands they are no more than 110bbs effective ftr. King made the 100NL jump.And re my post on the first hand, the more I think about it the more sure I am that you might as well have air and put ur opponent on a bluff/super weak if you're ging to 3bet. Folding is def the best option barring those things.Philadelphia Phillies are '08 world champs.You are right. But it doesn't change things. Pretty standard fold imo. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I'm so tired of losing money to regs that the only thing stopping them from being complete fish is a bankroll. Link to post Share on other sites
KHSPoker21 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 You are right. But it doesn't change things. Pretty standard fold imo.Agreed. And...LOLOLOLOLOL So AP ships me $10 to obv lure me back to their 100NL games and crappy bonuses/software/riggedness ( sorry lobster<3 ) and so im like um blackjack duh! Theyve sent me $10 twice in the past and ive played exactly two hands of BJ and lost twice. Im expecting the same today when I sit down and get insta-dealt 20 and it flips over A2 and runs 3,4 for the chop. Standard amirite? So I insta-dealt blackjack on the next hand and im at $25. One more time obv and I bink a 10 after being dealt 7-4. EZ game, so I decide to play one more because then I'd have $100 duh. So I hit deal and the dealer voice says "21" and ships me back $125. shipppppppppp the xmas present buying for the fam.Im now 3-2 vs AP and up $105 lifetime.Philadelphia Phillies are the '08 world champs Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 okay so yesterday, a tree company came to remove a huge dead tree outside in my front lawn. The tree is pretty much right next to the cable/internet lines that run to the house so obviously they cut off a branch that totally obliterates the cable lines so gg internet. I was already regged for the ftops pl HA and a few others (around 1-2:00 est) and I really wanted to play so I went to Panera (free wifi ftw) and just hung out all day and ended up bubbling the ftops and bubbling the ft of the 50 cubed. QTcc<24 ftl. sigh. So all in all a real shitty day. I also still havent seen the wsop yet.. sigh.. today is a new day though!Congrats on the jump to 100nl king1305, gl sir. Link to post Share on other sites
TeeSludge 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 So in my boredom today of waiting for action (have been sitting for 2 hours almost and have played 280 hands total) I registered for one of those Super turbo 100 chip things for todays PLO8 FTOPS. Troyomac happened to be in this one with me and I think I scooped every hand and knocked every player out and finished it in literally 2 minutes. I decided to unregister tho and use the $T for something else. Link to post Share on other sites
cwik 0 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Still trying to figure out PT3....Can somebody please tell me how to filter and export hands?? (export hands by player/level/date, and not my whole database)Can you export a HUD layout after you configured it?? Link to post Share on other sites
BellaireDrew 2 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Poker can SMD seriously. In the last 10k hands -19 BIs at 100nl and -5 BIs at 50nl. Going to take a couple days off and start over. fskjgadsklbgiadsugiuashgkihdfsu Link to post Share on other sites
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