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[bull62 0]

a white obama never has won a presidential election...most liberal president EVER

He is half white you know.

[Suited_Up 2]

a white obama never has won a presidential election...most liberal president EVER

Good. LOL @ Liberal being bad. Liberal means progressing into the 21st century. Sorry you hate progress. The world is different than it was 200 years ago. Deal with it.

[babylondonks 5]

Do we think that McCain would have won if he were black?I think we need a Mexican as our next president, that would show them.

[bull62 0]

Do we think that McCain would have won if he were black?I think we need a Mexican as our next president, that would show them.

Our?

[babylondonks 5]

Our?

Yeah, you haven't realised that Australia is an independant nation in name only yet?

[dtblizz 0]

As opposed to the people that voted against him simply because of his color? I think its funny that in a country where a pretty decent % of the population is racist that you think someone was elected because he was black. Nice logic. Especially since most black people weren't already Democrats before this election right?

black people didnt vote before this election...the statistical increase in the number of black voters coupled with the percentage of black voters that voted for obama definitely shows a racial bias there. do i blame them? no. i think this was pretty much a perfect storm. he is extremely liberal and he is black...the first doesn't seem to fit with a predominately moderately conservative america. the second doesnt seem to fit with the racist america you described. could a person like this ever be elected president without the amazing series of events that have unfolded recently?....current president, economic downturn, oil crisis, credit crisis...does this say more about how far our country has come since segregation or more about how insanely we react to things?

[dtblizz 0]

Good. LOL @ Liberal being bad. Liberal means progressing into the 21st century. Sorry you hate progress. The world is different than it was 200 years ago. Deal with it.

right. liberal means progress and conservative means regress.

[terradawg 0]

On the contrary, I think it's sad to think about all the people who voted for him simply because of the color of his skin and not the merits of his platform. Ceteris paribas, a white obama would never have been elected, and I think that's an extremely poor reflection on our country.

I wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. I think his platform of change was the single most important factor in his candidacy. He had a clear message and stayed the course throughout the primaries and general election. McCain had a muddled message and focused on negative connections (true or not, mostly not) from Obama's past. What would electing him have said about our country? Maybe the true beauty of it all is that we voted for someone based on his platform and not for the person who focused not on his own policies but on a series of accusations that were mostly ridiculous and untrue...

[RDog 0]

black people didnt vote before this election...the statistical increase in the number of black voters coupled with the percentage of black voters that voted for obama definitely shows a racial bias there. do i blame them? no. i think this was pretty much a perfect storm. he is extremely liberal and he is black...the first doesn't seem to fit with a predominately moderately conservative america. the second doesnt seem to fit with the racist america you described. could a person like this ever be elected president without the amazing series of events that have unfolded recently?....current president, economic downturn, oil crisis, credit crisis...does this say more about how far our country has come since segregation or more about how insanely we react to things?

It's a racial bias just because more people were heard? I think you are way off that he will be pushing a completely liberal agenda. I think given his historical significance he is going to do everything he can to make sure he creates a lasting legacy. Making his Presidency partisan is a sure way to make sure that doesn't happen. He has moved much more to the middle since all this started. I highly doubt he is moving back.

[bull62 0]

black people didnt vote before this election...the statistical increase in the number of black voters coupled with the percentage of black voters that voted for obama definitely shows a racial bias there. do i blame them? no. i think this was pretty much a perfect storm. he is extremely liberal and he is black...the first doesn't seem to fit with a predominately moderately conservative america. the second doesnt seem to fit with the racist america you described. could a person like this ever be elected president without the amazing series of events that have unfolded recently?....current president, economic downturn, oil crisis, credit crisis...does this say more about how far our country has come since segregation or more about how insanely we react to things?

So which states would McCain have won against a white Obama that would have put him over 270?You currently need 114.

[The Lobster 0]

It's a racial bias just because more people were heard? I think you are way off that he will be pushing a completely liberal agenda. I think given his historical significance he is going to do everything he can to make sure he creates a lasting legacy. Making his Presidency partisan is a sure way to make sure that doesn't happen. He has moved much more to the middle since all this started. I highly doubt he is moving back.

THIS.Now someone has to say it, but DBFIDTS (Daniel's Blog Forum Is Down The Street)

[theinvestor 0]

It's a racial bias just because more people were heard? I think you are way off that he will be pushing a completely liberal agenda. I think given his historical significance he is going to do everything he can to make sure he creates a lasting legacy. Making his Presidency partisan is a sure way to make sure that doesn't happen. He has moved much more to the middle since all this started. I highly doubt he is moving back.

Good thing we have the House and Senate to keep him in check...........

[Suited_Up 2]

right. liberal means progress and conservative means regress.

Hmm, I didn't say that.

[Deftones150 0]

Not to mention that a Republican president edit: hasn't done what they are suppose to do in 20 years which is decrease spending. I find it odd that the last time we had a surplus was with a democratic president. The fact is Obama rallied people of all demographics the way no candidate has in decades and he did it without trying to induce fear but hope instead speaks volumes about him as a leader.

[albertoflamingo 0]

On the contrary, I think it's sad to think about all the people who voted for him simply because of the color of his skin and not the merits of his platform. Ceteris paribas, a white obama would never have been elected, and I think that's an extremely poor reflection on our country.

It's well known that young people have an inherent bias towards black people. I think it had something to do with that trashy hip hop culture that everyone talks about. Seriously, what a dumb statement.

[dtblizz 0]

It's a racial bias just because more people were heard? I think you are way off that he will be pushing a completely liberal agenda. I think given his historical significance he is going to do everything he can to make sure he creates a lasting legacy. Making his Presidency partisan is a sure way to make sure that doesn't happen. He has moved much more to the middle since all this started. I highly doubt he is moving back.

if you vote based on race than you are racially biased no matter what color you are. if black people only vote because a black person is running than they are racially biased. of course he moved to the middle on certain issues. he's a politician. what's more of a legacy than implementing policies of change such as socialized health care...

[dtblizz 0]

Hmm, I didn't say that.

if liberal means progress and conservative and liberal are opposites then what does conservative mean?

[bull62 0]

if you vote based on race than you are racially biased no matter what color you are. if black people only vote because a black person is running than they are racially biased. of course he moved to the middle on certain issues. he's a politician. what's more of a legacy than implementing policies of change such as socialized health care...

Do you even know what his health care proposal is?

[Suited_Up 2]

if liberal means progress and conservative and liberal are opposites then what does conservative mean?

Fearing change doesn't mean going backwards.

[dtblizz 0]

So which states would McCain have won against a white Obama that would have put him over 270?You currently need 114.

honestly for the democrats to lose this election they would have had to try really, really hard...and they did. in terms of record their ticket is the most liberal of all time and their top two presidential candidates were a woman and a black man. they really went for it. they said "hey, we can do anything we want. this president is considered one of the worst ever and the economy is tanking...let's really go for it. what do we have to lose?"

[dtblizz 0]

Fearing change doesn't mean going backwards.

liberal = progressconservative = ?????

[bull62 0]

honestly for the democrats to lose this election they would have had to try really, really hard...and they did. in terms of record their ticket is the most liberal of all time and their top two presidential candidates were a woman and a black man. they really went for it. they said "hey, we can do anything we want. this president is considered one of the worst ever and the economy is tanking...let's really go for it. what do we have to lose?"

So did he win just because he was black or not?

[Deftones150 0]

liberal = progressconservative = ?????

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[Suited_Up 2]

Status Quo

This works.

[RDog 0]

if you vote based on race than you are racially biased no matter what color you are. if black people only vote because a black person is running than they are racially biased. of course he moved to the middle on certain issues. he's a politician. what's more of a legacy than implementing policies of change such as socialized health care...

So what exactly is worse? Voting FOR someone because you have felt left out of the process and they are of your ethnic group or voting AGAINST someone because they are of a different color?