TrueAce13 18 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Anyone advice on this hand? http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=129994 Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Anyone advice on this hand? http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...howtopic=129994 insta-fistpump-snapcallEven though we're so deep, villain just turns up with so much retarded shit and villain seems to be too stupid to actually hold a mouse and press buttons. An AF of 1.3 with a VPIP of 60 is pretty damn significant too. Has his shoves earlier been called? What kind of boards have they been? Is he donkish enough to shove his 9-8 here and immediately expect a call? Link to post Share on other sites
therescav 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I call there also TrueAce. If you're beat you're beat; but I highly doubt it Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Thats where my question is...bc we are so deep, can we let this go or do we have to call. He did it 2 other times, both on paired boards. Link to post Share on other sites
therescav 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Well as long as you're reviewing it and realising just what mistakes you make. And I really like raising that flop as at least somebody has a piece and they're much more likely to stack off on a flop as everybody loves to slowplay the flopped flush. Think about how you'd play KQ on that flop, AsQ, As-x, 44, x-x, etc. I think balancing your range is important there so you do get paid off on the monsters, though I guess it isn't important at the micro stakes we playThe most annoying part about this is that by playing the hand bad I saved money; if I raise that flop I still think he's calling, he hits his turn and I'm more commited/he now has a monster hand But yes, I definitely should have raised that flop with 4 players in the hand Link to post Share on other sites
therescav 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Thats where my question is...bc we are so deep, can we let this go or do we have to call. He did it 2 other times, both on paired boards.I still think you're ahead; villian could easily have 10-10, JJ etc here. He could even rock up with J10 I think with how active he has been Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 The most annoying part about this is that by playing the hand bad I saved money; if I raise that flop I still think he's calling, he hits his turn and I'm more commited/he now has a monster hand But yes, I definitely should have raised that flop with 4 players in the handIf you raise that flop I think there's a good chance he tries to get it in before a 4th spade rolls off, I'm amazed he smooth calls that bet as it gives everyone behind odds to hit their spade. Also, the card on the next street isn't a preset RNG and is determined by mouse movements or some crap like that so if you raise chances are the turn would be completely different.Ace: Bleh, you're sickeninly deep, but I think you'll lose equity folding here. So yeah, I call getting ready to die a little on the inside and them realise that the neighborhood donk has a massive stack just waiting for us to take Link to post Share on other sites
therescav 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 If you raise that flop I think there's a good chance he tries to get it in before a 4th spade rolls off, I'm amazed he smooth calls that bet as it gives everyone behind odds to hit their spade. Also, the card on the next street isn't a preset RNG and is determined by mouse movements or some crap like that so if you raise chances are the turn would be completely different.Forgot to mention villian running at 45/29 when I left, this was like his 5th hand with me I think so yes in the end he wasn't a very good player; didn't know this at the time but. Link to post Share on other sites
Jujoki3 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 F my lifeall of today...-10buyin...wtf Link to post Share on other sites
Fluffdog87 2 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I made the final table in the $555 Nl holdem WSOP Circuit Event today! I am the chipleader with 458k with the average at 180k. I played great all tourney and I had a big chip stack the entire day. $30,000 for 1st place. It starts today at 2pm at the Horseshoe Casino Hammond right outside of Chicago. I have met a few Chicago area fcp'ers over the first 2 days I've played at the Horseshoe and they all seemed like really nice guys. There is a seating area for the final table if anybody wants to watch. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 gl sir Link to post Share on other sites
Giggidy 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 GL Fluff + LOL @ Tre - $20 run upto $1K!! Link to post Share on other sites
leftygolfer 7 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I need to swap $1500 on fulltilt for $1500 on Stars, pm me if interested please. Have tilt, want Stars.I can do $600. I don't post in this thread...mostly lurk. Lots of strong comments here boys. Chicago fags guys can vouch for me. Met Mark at last years WSOP. Link to post Share on other sites
Painter567 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Mark,Thought of Marvel Ultimate Alliance also.....my wife daughter and I really enjoyed this game, great story as the game goes along and lots of great superheroes with their powers. You can build them up along they way as you gain points, getting them more and more powers and better outfits etc. Can play up to 4 at a time. Our team was the Human Torch (me), Wolverine (wife), and Colossus (daughter), she loved being him cause he was strong and it took alot to hurt him.Good family time.... Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I can do $600. I don't post in this thread...mostly lurk. Lots of strong comments here boys. Chicago fags guys can vouch for me. Met Mark at last years WSOP.He's good Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 I made the final table in the $555 Nl holdem WSOP Circuit Event today! I am the chipleader with 458k with the average at 180k. I played great all tourney and I had a big chip stack the entire day. $30,000 for 1st place. It starts today at 2pm at the Horseshoe Casino Hammond right outside of Chicago. I have met a few Chicago area fcp'ers over the first 2 days I've played at the Horseshoe and they all seemed like really nice guys. There is a seating area for the final table if anybody wants to watch. Glgl Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 And sigh @ slowplaying gone bad- although wouldn't of mattered, this guy was not folding that flop. Double sigh that I donk call his river bet:Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 8 playersThe Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterMP2: $26.20CO: $6.85Hero (BTN): $21.95SB: $18.25BB: $14.90UTG: $11.10UTG+1: $21.40MP1: $12.35Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with A J 1 fold, UTG+1 raises to $1, 2 folds, CO calls $1, Hero calls $1, 1 fold, BB calls $0.75Flop: ($4.10) Q 4 K (4 players)BB bets $1, UTG+1 calls $1, CO calls $1, Hero calls $1Turn: ($8.10) Q (4 players)BB checks, UTG+1 bets $2, CO folds, Hero calls $2, BB foldsRiver: ($12.10) 4 (2 players)UTG+1 bets $3, Hero calls $3Final Pot: $18.10Hero shows A J (a flush, Ace high)UTG+1 shows Q 4 (a full house, Queens full of Fours)UTG+1 wins $17.25(Rake: $0.85)Guess you already know but raise that flop. As played, fold the river. too bad you didn't make the royal flush on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Naked_Cowboy 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Glglwin fluff sir. Link to post Share on other sites
TeeSludge 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 GL Fluff + LOL @ Tre - $20 run upto $1K!! GL Fluff Also, last night had guy run $81.25 into 1.3k before I actually left. Still haven't figured out if the guy just completely owned me or he ran hotter then the sun. Link to post Share on other sites
The Lobster 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 win fluff sir. Link to post Share on other sites
therescav 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Gl Fluff! Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 If you raise that flop I think there's a good chance he tries to get it in before a 4th spade rolls off, I'm amazed he smooth calls that bet as it gives everyone behind odds to hit their spade. Also, the card on the next street isn't a preset RNG and is determined by mouse movements or some crap like that so if you raise chances are the turn would be completely different. Not sure where the hand was coming from, but from what I remember PokerStars has said that their cards are dealt like a deck. So the order is set for the whole hand when they are dealt. So time and mouse movements don't come in to play during the hand. (They are used to 'set' the deck though) And Full Tilt hasn't really said with clarity what they do. I made the final table in the $555 Nl holdem WSOP Circuit Event today! I am the chipleader with 458k with the average at 180k. I played great all tourney and I had a big chip stack the entire day. $30,000 for 1st place. It starts today at 2pm at the Horseshoe Casino Hammond right outside of Chicago. I have met a few Chicago area fcp'ers over the first 2 days I've played at the Horseshoe and they all seemed like really nice guys. There is a seating area for the final table if anybody wants to watch. glglglgl Justin!!!!Mark,Thought of Marvel Ultimate Alliance also.....my wife daughter and I really enjoyed this game, great story as the game goes along and lots of great superheroes with their powers. You can build them up along they way as you gain points, getting them more and more powers and better outfits etc. Can play up to 4 at a time. Our team was the Human Torch (me), Wolverine (wife), and Colossus (daughter), she loved being him cause he was strong and it took alot to hurt him.Good family time....This one looks quite promising tyty!He's good in bed.FYP. (Fortunecookied Your Post)Mark Link to post Share on other sites
psujohn 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 And Full Tilt hasn't really said with clarity what they do.Actualy full tilt runs a continuous shuffle so timing will determine what cards come next. Mouse movements and such are used to seed the random number generator but it's very unlikely that they're used in the middle of the hand. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Actualy full tilt runs a continuous shuffle so timing will determine what cards come next. Mouse movements and such are used to seed the random number generator but it's very unlikely that they're used in the middle of the hand.Yep, so when you get that bad beat, just blame yourself for taking too long, or not long enough. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Actualy full tilt runs a continuous shuffle so timing will determine what cards come next. Mouse movements and such are used to seed the random number generator but it's very unlikely that they're used in the middle of the hand.I just did some googling and apparently most sites use this method of continual picking of cards as the hand plays out. (except for Pokerstars who sets the deck when the hand starts). Just a random question: Why do you think that if Tilt continual shuffles (which Lederer has said they do) that only timing is used and not mouse movements and such are used during the hand? It doesn't seem any less likely to me that whoever programmed it grabs a new seed for each card than not?Mark Link to post Share on other sites
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