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ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever fold this pre in this spot Link to post Share on other sites
bull62 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 ever fold this pre in this spot Against a 32/11, I am probably folding pre. Link to post Share on other sites
therescav 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 never ever fold this pre in this spot But the only hands I would put him on by 4 betting is AA, KK or maybe AK (I don't think he does this with JJ). Following from this range, I think perhaps I can get away from this; if I were nitty enough. The KK hand just wouldn't play right, surely he isn't shoving KK into an Axxxx board? AK I dunno, actually seems like a possible holding here, but again I really doubt he would even be 4betting pre with AK, I think he woulda flatted my 3bet Link to post Share on other sites
bull62 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 But the only hands I would put him on by 4 betting is AA, KK or maybe AK (I don't think he does this with JJ). The KK hand just wouldn't play right, surely he isn't shoving KK into an Axxxx board? AK I dunno, actually seems like a possible holding here, but again I really doubt he would even be 4betting pre with AK, I think he woulda flatted my 3betThe only hands he's ever going to have here is AA or KK. If a 12/11 raises utg and 4bets you, what do you think he's going to have? 11 is 11 no matter what the vpip is. I fold it pre. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Okay, I'll just feel like an idiot for missing the 4bet pre :)In that case Greg sums it up pretty well, I probably fold assuming we've been playing with villain long enough to know that the stats are reliable and he isn't capable of doing this with some retarded A-10 kind of hand (which I see a lot for some reason, one time I got a 20/18 guy to call my 4bet-shove with K-2 soooted)AK is deffo in his 4betting range though, not that I think he's a good player but flatting AK there OOP is just deliciously bad Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 The only hands he's ever going to have here is AA or KK. If a 12/11 raises utg and 4bets you, what do you think he's going to have? 11 is 11 no matter what the vpip is. I fold it pre.I'm still not folding QQ pre vs a 32/11. Maybe vs a 12/11 but not a 32/11. The difference in how the villains may perceive strengths of hands and I'd say it's far more likely for the 32/11 to do something spazzy than the 12/11. Link to post Share on other sites
bull62 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I'm still not folding QQ pre vs a 32/11. Maybe vs a 12/11 but not a 32/11. The difference in how the villains may perceive strengths of hands and I'd say it's far more likely for the 32/11 to do something spazzy than the 12/11.At 25NL, I promise this is going to be AA or KK every time. Link to post Share on other sites
therescav 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 At 25NL, I promise this is going to be AA or KK every time.Knowing he has AA or KK, can we call; given if we get a Qxx flop we are going to stack him? Or are we not priced in? /could hit the flop like I did and get stacked.... Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Knowing he has AA or KK, can we call; given if we get a Qxx flop we are going to stack him? Or are we not priced in? /could hit the flop like I did and get stacked....Meh. At that point, what happens if the flop comes 367? Or some other low combination? Are you capable of folding an overpair? Link to post Share on other sites
therescav 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Meh. At that point, what happens if the flop comes 367? Or some other low combination? Are you capable of folding an overpair?This was my other concern I was going to bring up. A low flop does leave me with an even tougher decision than pre. I think in future im folding pre in this spot; there are just too many situations where i get stacked. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Knowing he has AA or KK, can we call; given if we get a Qxx flop we are going to stack him? Or are we not priced in? /could hit the flop like I did and get stacked....I think the answer is that we're not really priced in. We hit our set without getting overset around 8-1 I think?And we lose $3.50 every time we don't hit our set. Eh, it may be closer than I originally thought. I've been drinking though, so feel free to correct me if my maths is wrong Link to post Share on other sites
StrippersNBlow 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I had a decent couple of days on FTP, and could use some money on Stars. Anyone need Tilt moneys? I'll ship first. $50-300. Much appreciated. I've traded with fitzina a couple times, and Bull62. STLSquash -FTPsouthSTL -Pstars Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I had a decent couple of days on FTP, and could use some money on Stars. Anyone need Tilt moneys? I'll ship first. $50-300. Much appreciated. I've traded with fitzina a couple times, and Bull62. STLSquash -FTPsouthSTL -Pstars$191.45no more, no less. Lemme know either by aim (in profile), or PM Link to post Share on other sites
Sheiky 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 dont know if you guys are watchin the 500/1000 NL game on full tilt right now crazy game. phil has 1mil and change in for 200k i think.Full Tilt Poker Game #8664092218: Table RailHeaven (6 max) - $500/$1000 - No Limit Hold'em - 2:01:30 ET - 2008/10/26Seat 1: elmariachimacho ($63,994)Seat 2: John Juanda ($575,538.50)Seat 4: durrrr ($220,177.50)Seat 5: Phil Ivey ($795,585.50)Seat 6: Urindanger ($118,788)John Juanda posts the small blind of $500durrrr posts the big blind of $1,000The button is in seat #1*** HOLE CARDS ***Phil Ivey raises to $3,000Urindanger foldselmariachimacho calls $3,000John Juanda foldsdurrrr calls $2,000*** FLOP *** [Jh 3c 4h]durrrr bets $7,300Phil Ivey calls $7,300elmariachimacho has been disconnectedelmariachimacho has reconnectedelmariachimacho calls $7,300*** TURN *** [Jh 3c 4h] [8s]elmariachimacho has been disconnecteddurrrr has 15 seconds left to actelmariachimacho has reconnecteddurrrr bets $27,400Phil Ivey calls $27,400elmariachimacho folds*** RIVER *** [Jh 3c 4h 8s] [3d]durrrr has 15 seconds left to actdurrrr checksPhil Ivey has 15 seconds left to actPhil Ivey bets $68,000durrrr has 15 seconds left to actdurrrr raises to $182,477.50, and is all inPhil Ivey has 15 seconds left to actPhil Ivey has requested TIMETilterMike (Support): Full Tilt Poker reminds you to respect the players and your fellow observers by refraining from flooding or spamming the chat box. Also, please refrain from begging for money, encouraging begging, or using profanity or other inappropriate comments. TilterMike (Support): Remember that your chat privileges can and will be revoked for failing to abide by these simple rules. Thanks for your cooperation; we hope you're enjoying the action.Phil Ivey calls $114,477.50*** SHOW DOWN ***durrrr shows [5c Ad] a pair of ThreesPhil Ivey shows [Qh Jc] two pair, Jacks and ThreesPhil Ivey wins the pot ($451,152) with two pair, Jacks and Threesdurrrr adds $200,000*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $451,155 | Rake $3Board: [Jh 3c 4h 8s 3d]Seat 1: elmariachimacho (button) folded on the TurnSeat 2: John Juanda (small blind) folded before the FlopSeat 4: durrrr (big blind) showed [5c Ad] and lost with a pair of ThreesSeat 5: Phil Ivey showed [Qh Jc] and won ($451,152) with two pair, Jacks and ThreesSeat 6: Urindanger didn't bet (folded)The biggest online pot ever record was just broke twice in the same day -http://www.highstakesdb.com/view-hand-hist...x?GameID=252644http://www.highstakesdb.com/view-hand-hist...x?GameID=252995 - Durrr loses AA V KK AIPF in a $600+K pothttp://www.highstakesdb.com/view-hand-hist...x?GameID=252997 Link to post Share on other sites
KevinFKHS 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 converter not working...sryVillain JUST sat down, and posted from UTG...imo he's never potting flop with a set or two pair, I'll snapshove most non-club turns, or almost any turn he checks to me......what do we think:Stage #1103934224: Holdem No Limit $0.10 - 2008-10-26 07:24:42 (ET)Table: COBRA AVE (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealerSeat 2 - DANOHOG ($7.23 in chips)Seat 3 - SBALA ($12.46 in chips)Seat 4 - RLUNDBLADJR ($2.59 in chips)Seat 5 - WICOMICO ($10.97 in chips)Seat 6 - me ($11.47 in chips)Seat 1 - VORDEN030988 ($14.48 in chips)SBALA - Posts small blind $0.05RLUNDBLADJR - Posts big blind $0.10WICOMICO - Posts $0.10*** POCKET CARDS ***Dealt to me [] WICOMICO - Checksme - Raises $0.50 to $0.50VORDEN030988 - FoldsDANOHOG - FoldsSBALA - FoldsRLUNDBLADJR - FoldsWICOMICO - Calls $0.40*** FLOP *** []WICOMICO - Bets $1.15me - Raises $3.85 to $3.85WICOMICO - Calls $2.70*** TURN *** [] []WICOMICO - Bets $6.50me..............? Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Played for about an hour and ended it down 5 cents, which I'm happy about as I dropped around 3BI running really bad bluffs to start the session. Link to post Share on other sites
babyelephant 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 i to trade someone $25 on FTP for $25 on StarsI will transfer first.PM me if you can help.thanks in advanceCan anyone do this? I know its a pathetic amount but I need to move some money on stars for the Sunday tourney's Link to post Share on other sites
therescav 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Can anyone do this? I know its a pathetic amount but I need to move some money on stars for the Sunday tourney'sI can, PM me Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Taking a shot at 50NL tomorrow, glglglgl me. I'll be wearing my "MAKE LUNCH NOT WAR" T-shirt tomorrow. I'm pretty sure it'll be mildly funny shirt to be wearing if and when I FT the HEARTLAND poker tour for the TV broadcast. O heartland, the real america!glglgl to both of you!Mark Link to post Share on other sites
No_Neck 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 pssst......keep this quiet......but Nate is deep in Daily Double B right now.J4< 88 unbelievable IMO Link to post Share on other sites
albertoflamingo 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 At 25NL, I promise this is going to be AA or KK every time.Just saying, from a 53/6/1.33. I think from the hand in question AK is definitely in villain's range and maybe even other hands depending on what's going on at the time.Full Tilt Poker, $0.10/$0.25 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 5 PlayersLeggoPoker.com - Hand History ConverterCO: $28.85BTN: $25.80SB: $25Hero (BB): $25.75UTG: $124.35Pre-Flop: Q:spade: Q:club: dealt to Hero (BB)UTG raises to $0.50, 3 folds, Hero raises to $2, UTG raises to $4, Hero calls $2Flop: ($8.10) 7:heart: 2:diamond: 8:spade: (2 Players)Hero checks, UTG bets $10, Hero raises to $21.75 and is All-In, UTG calls $11.75Turn: ($51.60) J:spade: (2 Players - 1 is All-In)River: ($51.60) T:spade: (2 Players - 1 is All-In)Results: $51.60 Pot ($2.55 Rake)Hero showed Q:spade: Q:club: (a pair of Queens) and WON $49.05 (+$23.30 NET)UTG showed K:club: A:spade: (Ace King high) and LOST (-$25.75 NET) Link to post Share on other sites
RickyG033 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 Hey guys, Long time lurker here. I was told to post here as I am looking for a transfer. Im trying to ship away somewhere between $200-$400 on Stars and receive it on FTP. PM me if you can help and obviously I'll ship first.Thanks all. Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 I found this on 2+2 coaching section. Anyone of you guys know him? I like how he prorates his fees to the level you want coaching in. Hey,My name is Nick Phillips and currently I do coaching on cardrunners. If you are a member you can look me up on the coaching forum. Im looking to take on a few students. I teach low end MTTs, NL $25NL-$200NL and also other aspects of the game. Here is my info:POKER BACKGROUND & CREDENTIALS:I have been playing poker for the past 4 years off and on, but have been playing for the last 2 as my primary source of income. I moved to Vegas about a year and a half ago to ultimately pursue poker as a career. I'm 20 years old and was able to move out to Vegas on my own with the poker winnings that I had and continue to make.My cash game results can be found at the beginning of my first video. My tournament results can be found here:Official Poker Rankings ProfileGAMES/STAKES:NL (.25-.50 - $1-$2), MTTs < $50 Buy-inLOCATION/COACHING MEDIA:Las Vegas, NV. I use Team Viewer 3 in conjuction with Skype.GENERAL PRICE RANGE:Current prices with students on the side I teach:$25NL: $50/HR$50NL: $75/HR$100 NL: $100/HR$200 NL: $125/HRHand Review VIA email: $2/handMTTs Live sweat: $50/hrMTTs replayer discussion: $40/hrDiscounts/Pkgs:10% off (Minimum of 5 hours)Package Available also:1 Month Focused=(4) Two hour sweat sessions once a week(Sweat sessions include use of skype and teamviewer)Open to emails during the 1 month period (which will be replied to ASAP) on hand history, tilt issues, account/bankroll management, etc.1 Month Focused Pkg $25NL: $3501 Month Focused Pkg $50NL: $5251 Month Focused Pkg $100NL: $7001 Month Focused Pkg $200NL: $875COACHING PHILOSOPHY:My philosophy on poker starts on a very broad level with the players life and how the game is fit into his or her schedule. A common problem I have seen in the past with some students is everything else in life comes after poker and that leads to many problems in life and while playing. However with poker my approach to the game is how to become a consistent winning player by learning basic techniques and skills way before anything complicated is brought into play.If you can play well and never even try to make a move you can still be a winning player online. The problem comes when players try to hard to make both moves and to force the action. This is where peoples problems lie and need to be dealt with before any other steps are taken.If any of you are interested feel free to PM ME or email me at kcinnire@gmail.comGL at the tables,Nick "togl" Phillips Link to post Share on other sites
KevinFKHS 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 converter not working...sryVillain JUST sat down, and posted from UTG...imo he's never potting flop with a set or two pair, I'll snapshove most non-club turns, or almost any turn he checks to me......what do we think:Stage #1103934224: Holdem No Limit $0.10 - 2008-10-26 07:24:42 (ET)Table: COBRA AVE (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealerSeat 2 - DANOHOG ($7.23 in chips)Seat 3 - SBALA ($12.46 in chips)Seat 4 - RLUNDBLADJR ($2.59 in chips)Seat 5 - WICOMICO ($10.97 in chips)Seat 6 - me ($11.47 in chips)Seat 1 - VORDEN030988 ($14.48 in chips)SBALA - Posts small blind $0.05RLUNDBLADJR - Posts big blind $0.10WICOMICO - Posts $0.10*** POCKET CARDS ***Dealt to me [] WICOMICO - Checksme - Raises $0.50 to $0.50VORDEN030988 - FoldsDANOHOG - FoldsSBALA - FoldsRLUNDBLADJR - FoldsWICOMICO - Calls $0.40*** FLOP *** []WICOMICO - Bets $1.15me - Raises $3.85 to $3.85WICOMICO - Calls $2.70*** TURN *** [] []WICOMICO - Bets $6.50me..............? anybody? Link to post Share on other sites
Dratj 0 Posted October 26, 2008 Share Posted October 26, 2008 anybody?fold Link to post Share on other sites
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