dtblizz 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 in the first image...why is my red so far below the others if I'm only $5 above expectation in the second?also posted because I'm pulling a Mark and quitting for the day. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 in the first image...why is my red so far below the others if I'm only $5 above expectation in the second?Sklansky Bucks aren't the same as All In Equity. Sklansky Bucks calculates street by street equity. Link to post Share on other sites
dtblizz 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 in the first image...why is my red so far below the others if I'm only $5 above expectation in the second?also posted because I'm pulling a Mark and quitting for the day.suckouts in hands that we were not all in in that were shown down? Link to post Share on other sites
dtblizz 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Sklansky Bucks aren't the same as All In Equity. Sklansky Bucks calculates street by street equity.yeah, figured that out right as i posted it...whoopssssiiiieeee Link to post Share on other sites
FARGOpokerND 22 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 FWIW, I don't think I jumped all over him. The point I was making is that there are 0 merits for checking that flop......like ever. So for him to even talk about "merits" is going way down the wrong path. People make mistakes all the time when giving advice on a hand, including myself, the real issue is when you backtrack and try to say you didn't say what you said when if anyone just goes backs and reads they can see exactly what was said. That's all. We ALL say shit we shouldn't, take responsibility and move on.I believe he wasn't saying he would check on that flop, he was just trying to say checking may not be horrible. As you all pointed out, checking is money-suicide, but as I said, I am pretty sure he wasn't saying he WOULD check that flop.I think everyone was just on a different level of that topic. Link to post Share on other sites
dtblizz 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 If he's calling with ATC you should make a bigger 3bet to maxamize the money that goes in when you're ahead. I would not c-bet this flop and would probably just give up.edit: i was looking at the wrong hand me thinks haha Link to post Share on other sites
KevinFKHS 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Depending on how the other players are playing at the time I don't think checking that flop is a bad option. Only for the reason that C-betting into 3 people on that board really puts you at a minimum of QJ. I don't know if they are observant to know that or not. You'll also get free cards after they realize you check with a big hand at times.I'm not saying betting is bad but it puts you on a strong narrow range when checking puts you at a wider weaker range unless you Cbet this flop with AK/AJ.this one Link to post Share on other sites
bull62 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 The only thing I would say about this hand is to make a slightly bigger flop bet. His range is going to be all of this cordnated board and your range still fairs well against his range. I'd bet 11.25 or something.His range based on previous play could be almost anything on the flop and doesn't narrow all that much on the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
bull62 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Everyone seems to be running horribly today..I'm still up despite running horribly. Link to post Share on other sites
dtblizz 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 this oneyeah i found it...never in life check that flop Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Tell you what....If you make robusto by the end of today Ill log on to one of my joke accounts and vote for you in the "favorites" thread. And if you dont make it, Ill log on to one and vote for King..... WTF how do you not vote for me anyway?! My month graph = prettier then RDogs. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 WTF how do you not vote for me anyway?! My month graph = prettier then RDogs.If by prettier you mean less money then yes......you are correct. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 LOL, true reg HU4ROLLZ going on in the Stars Regs Thread right now. It's awesome. Funny thing is, they both blow balls. Link to post Share on other sites
msals11 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 LOL, true reg HU4ROLLZ going on in the Stars Regs Thread right now. It's awesome. Funny thing is, they both blow balls.link Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 linkStarts with the post by Blackice, post #9306http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthre...883&page=94 Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Sklansky Bucks calculates how badly you're running and how likely it is that the resulting tiltage will lead you to become a sicko pervert who bangs blind retards. Link to post Share on other sites
Cadam11 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Villian is a donk....Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (4 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comButton ($48.40)SB ($98.95)BB ($100.85)Hero (UTG) ($202.70)Preflop: Hero is UTG with A A Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, BB calls $2.50Flop: ($7.50) J Q 3 (2 players)BB bets $7.50, Hero raises to $22.00, BB calls $14.50Turn: ($51.50) 10 (2 players)BB bets $1.00, Hero raises to $30.00, BB calls $29.00River: ($111.50) 8 (2 players)BB bets $45.35 (All-In), Hero calls $45.35Total pot: $202.20 | Rake: $2.00Results in white below: BB had 6 Q (one pair, Queens)Hero had A A (one pair, Aces)Outcome: Hero won $200.20I am station with over pairs.... bad call? I really think I am rarely good but I couldnt fold. Let me know how terrible I am. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Starts with the post by Blackice, post #9306http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthre...883&page=94 Is it really that bad calling with 98s? Seems to me like they're a bunch of unimaginative nitty fucks. Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Is it really that bad calling with 98s? Seems to me like they're a bunch of unimaginative nitty fucks.at 2+2? that's unpossible! Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Is it really that bad calling with 98s? Seems to me like they're a bunch of unimaginative nitty fucks.It's not gonna play great OOP against a reg who is 3 betting an UTG raise. I think the bigger issue is his flop min raise which is typically to induce more action. The main person going off about how bad it is (other than the person that posted the hand0 is definitely one of the top 5 regs at 1/2. He was a winning player at 2/4 and moved down to mass table. One of the few that might actually get me to leave a seat when he sits on my left. I love how once people start chiming in on the hand, others chime in about that person being horrible, lol. Link to post Share on other sites
chgocubs99 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 LOL sorry to come in and post a bad beat but thsi was a pretty funny one:PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB ($37.35)Hero (Button) ($56.70)Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 5Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.00Flop: ($3.00) A 5 Q(2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $2.00, SB raises to $6.00, Hero raises to $16.50, SB raises to $35.85 (All-In), Hero calls $19.35Turn: ($74.70) Q(2 players, 1 all-in)River: ($74.70) 2(2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $74.70 | Rake: $0.50Results in white below: Hero had 9 5 (two pair, Queens and fives)SB had 3 4 (one pair, Queens)Outcome: SB won $74.20 Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 LOL sorry to come in and post a bad beat but thsi was a pretty funny one:PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (2 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB ($37.35)Hero (Button) ($56.70)Preflop: Hero is Button with 9 5Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.00Flop: ($3.00) A 5 Q(2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $2.00, SB raises to $6.00, Hero raises to $16.50, SB raises to $35.85 (All-In), Hero calls $19.35Turn: ($74.70) Q(2 players, 1 all-in)River: ($74.70) 2(2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $74.70 | Rake: $0.50Results in white below: Hero had 9 5 (two pair, Queens and fives)SB had 3 4 (one pair, Queens)Outcome: SB won $74.20 that converter sucks. Link to post Share on other sites
Suited_Up 2 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 It's not gonna play great OOP against a reg who is 3 betting an UTG raise. I think the bigger issue is his flop min raise which is typically to induce more action. The main person going off about how bad it is (other than the person that posted the hand0 is definitely one of the top 5 regs at 1/2. He was a winning player at 2/4 and moved down to mass table. One of the few that might actually get me to leave a seat when he sits on my left. I love how once people start chiming in on the hand, others chime in about that person being horrible, lol.I didn't really read the HH, just the comments pretty much. But I usually see minraises as exactly what it was, a flush draw, or some sort of draw where you want to be deceptive but do it cheaply. So that's worse to me than it being something that might be to induce action. I don't see that as often as I see it for exactly what it was.I just don't think he has much of a reason to be mad. Link to post Share on other sites
ice4804 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 beat: med school has officially startedbrag: i have a dashing new white coat variance: i have been playing 2x as much poker since school started compared to the summer. sustainable? Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I didn't really read the HH, just the comments pretty much. But I usually see minraises as exactly what it was, a flush draw, or some sort of draw where you want to be deceptive but do it cheaply. So that's worse to me than it being something that might be to induce action. I don't see that as often as I see it for exactly what it was.LMAO, haven't we had this discussion before? Most of the people commenting are pretty good and Krmont would never be considered an unimaginative nit. Pots against regs, especially 3 bet pots have so many different dynamics, are verrrrrrrrry different from pots you play with fish. For the most part him calling that raise there 100 BB's deep isn't going to be very profitable. He is very, very spewy and that hand kind of illustrates it. As does this one.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2.00 BB (4 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (UTG) ($550.35)Button ($117.00)SB ($176.85)BB ($205.00)Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q AHero raises to $8.00, 2 folds, BB raises to $26.00, Hero calls $18.00Flop: ($53.00) 3 Q 2(2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $34.00, BB calls $34.00Turn: ($121.00) 5(2 players)BB bets $145.00 (All-In), Hero calls $145.00River: ($411.00) 8(2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $411.00 | Rake: $2.00Results in white below: BB had 8 8 (three of a kind, eights)Hero had Q A (one pair, Queens)Outcome: BB won $409.00 Link to post Share on other sites
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