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[bull62 0]

I'm getting close to the bankroll level I want to be at to move to 25nl. How is the play so far in comparison?

Cbets actually work a decent percentage of the time. You see fewer hands at showdown that make you scratch your head in disbelief (still a lot, just fewer than 10NL). A little more 3 betting. I'm sure there's more but that's all I can think of for now. I'm rolled for 50NL now but I think I'll spend a few more weeks at 25NL. I'll probably wait for this month's rakeback payment then move up. I don't think a little extra cushion would hurt.

[Snamuh 0]

For whatever reason I can't convert this. I don't know the best line to take on a board like this. Thoughts? Hero is generally a 21/17 TAG. Button is unknown and we haven't tangled yet. For anyone who responds, give me your entire plan for the hand. If you cbet, please explain why and what you plan to do on the turn if called (depending on what falls), or what to do if raised.POKERSTARS GAME #515011915000036: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2008/05/29 - 00:33:27 (ET)Table 'Cake_ Amsterdam (6-max) 11915' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: Dang*** ($400.00 in chips)Seat 3: ytha*** ($350.90 in chips)Seat 8: bull*** ($477.60 in chips)Seat 9: Hero ($403.50 in chips)Seat 10: Call*** ($738.20 in chips)bull***: posts small blind $2Hero: posts big blind $4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Hero [Qc Qs]Call***: foldsDang***: foldsytha***: raises $8.00 to $12.00bull***: foldsHero: raises $26.00 to $38.00ytha***: calls $26.00*** FLOP *** [Tc Jc Ks]Hero?

[a__thekevlar__2 0]

LOOOOOL, OMG YES! BEST GIFT EVER, im just gonna copy exactly what the planet hollywood invite says for me."Planet Hollywood Resort & Casino cordially invites you and a guest to a private shopping event at Neiman Marcus.Your shopping itinerary includes:Complimentary four day, three night stay,Friday, July 25-Sunday July 27.$250Private Shopping Event and Continental Breakfast from 9am to 11am at Neiman Marcus, Fashion Show Mall on Sunday, July 27."if there was ever a comp designed specifically for me...

[AAsnake88 0]

LOOOOOL, OMG YES! BEST GIFT EVER, im just gonna copy exactly what the planet hollywood invite says for me."Planet Hollywood Resort & Casino cordially invites you and a guest to a private shopping event at Neiman Marcus.Your shopping itinerary includes:Complimentary four day, three night stay,Friday, July 25-Sunday July 27.$250Private Shopping Event and Continental Breakfast from 9am to 11am at Neiman Marcus, Fashion Show Mall on Sunday, July 27."if there was ever a comp designed specifically for me...

I don't think they took total consideration here.

[KHSPoker21 0]

Bull, it's great to hear your hard work is paying off and you're ready to make your second jump in as many months, wp.Kinger, when you stop running bad it's gonna be ez imo2nd session of the night, this time w/ 4 BI swongs lollers positive is goot

[bull62 0]

Bull, it's great to hear your hard work is paying off and you're ready to make your second jump in as many months, wp.

tyvm

[aussiedonk 0]

For whatever reason I can't convert this. I don't know the best line to take on a board like this. Thoughts? Hero is generally a 21/17 TAG. Button is unknown and we haven't tangled yet. For anyone who responds, give me your entire plan for the hand. If you cbet, please explain why and what you plan to do on the turn if called (depending on what falls), or what to do if raised.POKERSTARS GAME #515011915000036: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2008/05/29 - 00:33:27 (ET)Table 'Cake_ Amsterdam (6-max) 11915' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: Dang*** ($400.00 in chips)Seat 3: ytha*** ($350.90 in chips)Seat 8: bull*** ($477.60 in chips)Seat 9: Hero ($403.50 in chips)Seat 10: Call*** ($738.20 in chips)bull***: posts small blind $2Hero: posts big blind $4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Hero [Qc Qs]Call***: foldsDang***: foldsytha***: raises $8.00 to $12.00bull***: foldsHero: raises $26.00 to $38.00ytha***: calls $26.00*** FLOP *** [Tc Jc Ks]Hero?

I would rr more pre - to $44 or $48.Interesting spot post flop. Button starts hand with $350 - did he lose $50 or so last hand and hasn't had a chance to reload, or has he had $350 the last few hands? This would make a pretty important difference for me as I would be happier getting it in vs a reg type player than a random donk on this flop. I think a random donk flats with a lot more Kx hands.Having said that obviously you are never going to be in great shape if you do get it in - you equity will generally be somewhere between 35%ish and 60%ish.Obviously it is a super wet board and plenty of turns will improve villian's hand, but I think that the hands that stand to improve are the hands that would raise a c-bet with the intention of getting it in. Hands that would fold to a c-bet like low pocket pairs and non-club suited connectors are unlikely to be improved by the turn. So I would check / call flop and re-evaluate turn.

[psujohn 0]

POKERSTARS GAME #515011915000036: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($2/$4) - 2008/05/29 - 00:33:27 (ET)Table 'Cake_ Amsterdam (6-max) 11915' Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 1: Dang*** ($400.00 in chips)Seat 3: ytha*** ($350.90 in chips)Seat 8: bull*** ($477.60 in chips)Seat 9: Hero ($403.50 in chips)Seat 10: Call*** ($738.20 in chips)bull***: posts small blind $2Hero: posts big blind $4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Hero [Qc Qs]Call***: foldsDang***: foldsytha***: raises $8.00 to $12.00bull***: foldsHero: raises $26.00 to $38.00ytha***: calls $26.00*** FLOP *** [Tc Jc Ks]Hero?

I check/call the flop. I'm looking for villain to give away the strength of his hand. It very easy for villain to have us crushed (TT,JJ,JT,AQ,Kx) but it's also very easy for villain to be in bad shape (J9, T9, QT, QJ, AJ, AT). If villain is ahead we likely have a decent number of outs against him so I don't want to get blown off the hand. If villain is behind it's unlikely that he'll bet again at a blank turn and we can then value bet a blank river. I'm playing cautiously if a Q falls though. I highly recommend going runner runner for the royal.

[Snamuh 0]

I would rr more pre - to $44 or $48.Interesting spot post flop. Button starts hand with $350 - did he lose $50 or so last hand and hasn't had a chance to reload, or has he had $350 the last few hands? This would make a pretty important difference for me as I would be happier getting it in vs a reg type player than a random donk on this flop. I think a random donk flats with a lot more Kx hands.Having said that obviously you are never going to be in great shape if you do get it in - you equity will generally be somewhere between 35%ish and 60%ish.Obviously it is a super wet board and plenty of turns will improve villian's hand, but I think that the hands that stand to improve are the hands that would raise a c-bet with the intention of getting it in. Hands that would fold to a c-bet like low pocket pairs and non-club suited connectors are unlikely to be improved by the turn. So I would check / call flop and re-evaluate turn.

He raised 3x. I raised just about pot I think? I think raising above 42-44 here is excessive. Doesn't check/calling pretty much give away the fact that we have a weak hand in this situation as pretty much any hand we'd want to get it in with, we'd be getting it in on the flop (as it's so drawy). What other hands are you check calling on this board that you 3bet here? AJ? KQ?Edit: And what are you doing on certain turns?

[Snamuh 0]

I check/call the flop. I'm looking for villain to give away the strength of his hand. It very easy for villain to have us crushed (TT,JJ,JT,AQ,Kx) but it's also very easy for villain to be in bad shape (J9, T9, QT, QJ, AJ, AT). If villain is ahead we likely have a decent number of outs against him so I don't want to get blown off the hand. If villain is behind it's unlikely that he'll bet again at a blank turn and we can then value bet a blank river. I'm playing cautiously if a Q falls though. I highly recommend going runner runner for the royal.

I think the hand range that you give for the villain to be in bad shape with is pretty unrealistic. You'd have to assume villain was pretty loose before you can throw ANY of those hands in his 3bet calling range, especially as we have no history. A queen is probably the worst card that could come.

[Jordan 1]

I think with that QQ hand, it's pretty standard to bet/call as he will be pushing pair + draws that you're ahead of.If you think he's pretty weak though, then I'd just check/call or w/e and try to induce. He certainly most likely doesn't have AK. KQ unlikely, so as far as Kx hands you're 'afraid' of, it's KJ. That being said, if he has KJ, you still have 10 outs or ~40% equity, so if you bet flop and he raises imo you pretty much get it in every time.- Jordan

[Acid_Knight 2]

I think with that QQ hand, it's pretty standard to bet/call as he will be pushing pair + draws that you're ahead of.If you think he's pretty weak though, then I'd just check/call or w/e and try to induce. He certainly most likely doesn't have AK. KQ unlikely, so as far as Kx hands you're 'afraid' of, it's KJ. That being said, if he has KJ, you still have 10 outs or ~40% equity, so if you bet flop and he raises imo you pretty much get it in every time.- Jordan

Agreed. AQ is in his range though, which sucks balls. I still just bet/call though.

[Snamuh 0]

I think with that QQ hand, it's pretty standard to bet/call as he will be pushing pair + draws that you're ahead of.If you think he's pretty weak though, then I'd just check/call or w/e and try to induce. He certainly most likely doesn't have AK. KQ unlikely, so as far as Kx hands you're 'afraid' of, it's KJ. That being said, if he has KJ, you still have 10 outs or ~40% equity, so if you bet flop and he raises imo you pretty much get it in every time.- Jordan

Ok so you cbet 61 and the Jd falls on the turn. Check/fold good now?

[TeeSludge 0]

One of these right around the corner from my apt. I like it.

It was soooo good. We had the pan fried pork dumplings for app. For entrees we split a Garlic Chicken Pizza which had Sauteed Mushrooms, Bell Peppers, sliced Red onion and roast garlic sauce and the Chicken Tequila Fettucine which is Spinach Fettucine sauteed with red onions, bell peppers and jalapenos in tequila lime cream sauce. We finished it off with one of their messy sundaes which was a site to see. Really good meal. Also went down to La Jolla Coves which was beautiful.. probably gonna head back down in that area in a little bit

[Naked_Cowboy 0]

It was soooo good. We had the pan fried pork dumplings for app. For entrees we split a Garlic Chicken Pizza which had Sauteed Mushrooms, Bell Peppers, sliced Red onion and roast garlic sauce and the Chicken Tequila Fettucine which is Spinach Fettucine sauteed with red onions, bell peppers and jalapenos in tequila lime cream sauce. We finished it off with one of their messy sundaes which was a site to see. Really good meal. Also went down to La Jolla Coves which was beautiful.. probably gonna head back down in that area in a little bit

i never thought i'd hear of a meal being served in a restaurant that includes dumplings, pizza, and a tex-mex sounding pasta. That sounds like a gourmet version of i'd throw together out of leftovers in my fridge.I love it.

[Acid_Knight 2]

It was soooo good. We had the pan fried pork dumplings for app. For entrees we split a Garlic Chicken Pizza which had Sauteed Mushrooms, Bell Peppers, sliced Red onion and roast garlic sauce and the Chicken Tequila Fettucine which is Spinach Fettucine sauteed with red onions, bell peppers and jalapenos in tequila lime cream sauce. We finished it off with one of their messy sundaes which was a site to see. Really good meal. Also went down to La Jolla Coves which was beautiful.. probably gonna head back down in that area in a little bit

How the hell did you eat that much?I like the Thai Chicken Pizza. Pretty much everything is good except for their artisan thin crust pizzas which are basically like $12 cheese and crackers.

[Sheiky 0]

Comments on these hands please, i'm trying to analyse my many many leaks but i seem to be so ****ing terrible that I can't even notice wtf i'm doing wrong-Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Hero ($25.60)CO ($25.35)Button ($27.15)SB ($15.05)BB ($20.20)UTG ($79.60)Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 , 9 . 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, 1 fold, Button calls $0.85, 2 folds.Flop: ($2.05) 8 , Q , 6 (2 players)Hero bets $1.55, Button calls $1.55.Turn: ($5.15) 7 (2 players)Hero checks, Button bets $3.25, Hero calls $3.25.River: ($11.65) K (2 players)Hero checks, Button checks.Final Pot: $11.65Bet turn/check-fold turn? No reads on villainFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)CO ($26.45)Hero ($29.55)SB ($25)BB ($25)UTG ($32.70)MP ($25)Preflop: Hero is Button with Q , Q . 2 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.35, 1 fold, BB raises to $4.65, CO folds, Hero???BB is 2/2 over 25 handsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)MP ($21.05)Hero ($35.65)Button ($25)SB ($29.75)BB ($32.70)UTG ($25)Preflop: Hero is CO with A , K . 1 fold, MP calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.35, 3 folds, MP calls $1.10.Flop: ($3.05) 7 , K , 8 (2 players)MP checks, Hero bets $2.25, MP calls $2.25.Turn: ($7.55) T (2 players)MP checks, Hero bets $4, MP raises to $17.45 (All-In), Hero folds.Final Pot: $15.55Villain is an incredibly loose donk, 3.4 or something aggro factor i think. I was considering checking behind but i thought that there are still a lot of hands that i can get value out of even though that was a really terrible card, after he shoves I think it's a standard fold on that turn, but given how bad i play it's probably a snap call.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Hero ($27.95)Button ($31.70)SB ($15.05)BB ($8.85)UTG ($80.70)Preflop: Hero is MP with K , J . 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.85, Button calls $0.85, 2 folds.Flop: ($2.05) 5 , 8 , T (2 players)Hero bets $1.6, Button calls $1.60.Turn: ($5.25) A (2 players)Hero bets $3.85...Good spot to double barrel? There are a few draws he could have on the flop that he won't fold on the turn, but I think it's a credible bet by me and hopefully he folds his one pair handsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)SB ($5)Hero ($27.60)UTG ($25)MP ($31.70)CO ($58.75)Button ($25)Preflop: Hero is BB with J , J . UTG posts a blind of $0.25. 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.95, UTG (poster) raises to $3.1, Hero raises to $7.95, UTG raises to $28.1 (All-In), Hero folds.Final Pot: $15.90Villain is 12/12 over 30 hands IIRC, 3-bet % of 12 over that time, the pot was $32 and it's $18 more for me to call I think, I have no idea about these spots anymore because lately everytime i call i seem to be crushed and everytime I fold i feel like a nit.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)SB ($6)Hero ($26.95)UTG ($33.25)MP ($56.95)Button ($25)Preflop: Hero is BB with K , Q . 1 fold, MP raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.60.Flop: ($1.80) Q , 3 , 2 (2 players)Hero checks, MP bets $1.5, Hero calls $1.50.Turn: ($4.80) A (2 players)Hero checks, MP bets $3, Hero folds.Final Pot: $4.80Villain is relatively TAG-ish/decent, guess I should have raised the flop, I could imagine him being good enough to represent the ace though.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) Full Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)Hero ($32.30)SB ($26.45)BB ($49.05)UTG ($24.65)MP ($18.05)CO ($10.30)Preflop: Hero is Button with 4 , A . UTG calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.35, 2 folds, UTG calls $1.10.Flop: ($3.05) 7 , Q , 4 (3 players)UTG bets $0.25, Hero raises to $2.45, UTG calls $2.20.Turn: ($7.95) 2 (3 players)UTG bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25.River: ($8.45) T (3 players)UTG bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25.Final Pot: $8.95Very donkish UTG so far, posted out of turn and did some other goofy things, I feel like a girl for not raising the turn or river here.

[king1305 0]

Hand 1 - I bet the turn, and check the river, especially if you're going to call the turn. Why not bet it and stay in control of the hand?Hand 2 - I flat here and reevaluate the flop looking for safe ones and then bitch and moan whenever the flop comes 8hi and we get it in vs KK or AA.Hand 3 - This is prob a standard fold(?) but I'm a POW and ZOMGWEHASTOPPAIRTOPKICKERICALLICALLICALLICALLICALLHand 4 - Don't mind the double-barrel, better then shutting down continually when we don't make some sort of a hand and it gives us a chance to still win the pot with a worse hand.Hand 5 - Meh, pretty standard fold vs random imo, I don't wanna flip for stacks with JJ.Hand 6 - I lead the flop and then the turn too.Hand 7 - If you're going to raise the flop here because you're confident in your hand, raise the turn also.These are just imo, and isap, so take it fwiw.

[gobears 0]

Hands

1: I bet turn, you picked up an OESD along with your pair and it's well disguised. If he calls turn, I check river since FD got there2: I flat there in position but I also flat with AA/KK there3: I check behind, FD got there4: Fine5: Fine, Flatting there is also ok but I do that with my monsters too like AA/KK6: I'd 3-bet there and bet the flop.7: Seems like he's on a FD so I'd raise turn. I'd bet river too but if he's the type that won't fold, then of course calling down turn/river is fine. It's very opponent dependent.

[KHSPoker21 0]

http://www.pokerhand.org/?2682561 - Sooooo sick, but I'll take it

[king1305 0]

http://www.pokerhand.org/?2682561 - Sooooo sick, but I'll take it

Run better.

[Dratj 0]

3/6 nl. four handed. I'm on the button, villian is UTG/cutoffI have $750, villian is a loose aggro who has me covered.History: The previous time he 3 bet me all in preflop, I had AK, he showed 66.I have QQ, Villian raises to $24 preflop.I reraise to $75. He shoves. Call or Fold?

[king1305 0]

3/6 nl. four handed. I'm on the button, villian is UTG/cutoffI have $750, villian is a loose aggro who has me covered.History: The previous time he 3 bet me all in preflop, I had AK, he showed 66.I have QQ, Villian raises to $24 preflop.I reraise to $75. He shoves. Call or Fold?

Fist-pump and then puke when AJ gets there

[rdtedm 0]

3/6 nl. four handed. I'm on the button, villian is UTG/cutoffI have $750, villian is a loose aggro who has me covered.History: The previous time he 3 bet me all in preflop, I had AK, he showed 66.I have QQ, Villian raises to $24 preflop.I reraise to $75. He shoves. Call or Fold?

I probably end up calling here vs. this villain.

[Acid_Knight 2]

3/6 nl. four handed. I'm on the button, villian is UTG/cutoffI have $750, villian is a loose aggro who has me covered.History: The previous time he 3 bet me all in preflop, I had AK, he showed 66.I have QQ, Villian raises to $24 preflop.I reraise to $75. He shoves. Call or Fold?

4 handed with the previous hands stated, it's only a decision between a regular call and an instacall.