New Challenge (old Challenge)

[TB17 0]

I need - $13,031. Some tech guy is coming to fix my internet so hopefully it gets done so I don't have to start my sessions at midnight. I had a LOT of stackages, but I ruined a lot of it by making some poor bluffs, some poor hero calls, and hitting about .250 with the Continuation bets. Every big pot I won, and ended up with about $300+ profitThe big pots:PokerStars Game #11122713017: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/07/25 - 02:33:43 (ET)Table 'Palinurus V' 6-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 1: a_tranpoker9 ($155.05 in chips) Seat 2: mrcrgl ($279.50 in chips) Seat 3: yome ($54.65 in chips) Seat 4: MikaNord ($221.05 in chips) Seat 5: tb17 ($328.30 in chips) Seat 6: NoMasBluffs ($121.50 in chips) tb17: posts small blind $1NoMasBluffs: posts big blind $2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to tb17 [4h 4d]a_tranpoker9: calls $2mrcrgl: raises $6 to $8yome: folds MikaNord: folds tb17: calls $7NoMasBluffs: folds a_tranpoker9: calls $6*** FLOP *** [4c 2h Qd]tb17: checks a_tranpoker9: checks mrcrgl: bets $18tb17: calls $18a_tranpoker9: folds *** TURN *** [4c 2h Qd] [9s]tb17: checks mrcrgl: bets $38tb17: raises $64 to $102mrcrgl: raises $151.50 to $253.50 and is all-intb17 said, "o god pls dont have qq"tb17: calls $151.50*** RIVER *** [4c 2h Qd 9s] [5s]*** SHOW DOWN ***tb17: shows [4h 4d] (three of a kind, Fours)mrcrgl: mucks hand tb17 collected $566 from potmrcrgl leaves the table*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $569 | Rake $3 Board [4c 2h Qd 9s 5s]Seat 1: a_tranpoker9 folded on the FlopSeat 2: mrcrgl mucked [Ac Ad]Seat 3: yome folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: MikaNord (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: tb17 (small blind) showed [4h 4d] and won ($566) with three of a kind, FoursSeat 6: NoMasBluffs (big blind) folded before FlopPokerStars Game #11122446365: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/07/25 - 02:03:16 (ET)Table 'Khryses III' 6-max Seat #3 is the buttonSeat 3: tb17 ($202.85 in chips) Seat 4: VIDEOBOX.COM ($423.40 in chips) Seat 5: badb0iie ($40 in chips) Seat 6: mymanveldin ($193 in chips) VIDEOBOX.COM: posts small blind $1badb0iie: posts big blind $2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to tb17 [Ah Ks]mymanveldin: folds tb17: raises $6 to $8VIDEOBOX.COM: raises $18 to $26badb0iie: folds tb17: raises $74 to $100VIDEOBOX.COM: raises $323.40 to $423.40 and is all-intb17: calls $102.85 and is all-in*** FLOP *** [4s Tc Kc]*** TURN *** [4s Tc Kc] [6c]*** RIVER *** [4s Tc Kc 6c] [Jh]*** SHOW DOWN ***VIDEOBOX.COM: shows [9c 9d] (a pair of Nines)tb17: shows [Ah Ks] (a pair of Kings)tb17 collected $405.70 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $407.70 | Rake $2 Board [4s Tc Kc 6c Jh]Seat 3: tb17 (button) showed [Ah Ks] and won ($405.70) with a pair of KingsSeat 4: VIDEOBOX.COM (small blind) showed [9c 9d] and lost with a pair of NinesSeat 5: badb0iie (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: mymanveldin folded before Flop (didn't bet)PokerStars Game #11122782738: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/07/25 - 02:42:34 (ET)Table 'Palinurus V' 6-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: a_tranpoker9 ($194.75 in chips) Seat 2: luckybacon ($209.10 in chips) Seat 3: yome ($56.20 in chips) Seat 4: MikaNord ($220.85 in chips) Seat 5: tb17 ($561.80 in chips) Seat 6: NoMasBluffs ($133.15 in chips) a_tranpoker9: posts small blind $1luckybacon: posts big blind $2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to tb17 [Kd Qd]yome: folds MikaNord: folds tb17: raises $6 to $8NoMasBluffs: folds a_tranpoker9: raises $14 to $22luckybacon: folds tb17: calls $14*** FLOP *** [Ac 6s Qh]a_tranpoker9: checks tb17: checks *** TURN *** [Ac 6s Qh] [Ks]a_tranpoker9: bets $32tb17: calls $32*** RIVER *** [Ac 6s Qh Ks] [3s]a_tranpoker9: bets $140.75 and is all-intb17: calls $140.75*** SHOW DOWN ***a_tranpoker9: shows [9d 7d] (high card Ace)tb17: shows [Kd Qd] (two pair, Kings and Queens)tb17 collected $388.50 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $391.50 | Rake $3 Board [Ac 6s Qh Ks 3s]Seat 1: a_tranpoker9 (small blind) showed [9d 7d] and lost with high card AceSeat 2: luckybacon (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 3: yome folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: MikaNord folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: tb17 showed [Kd Qd] and won ($388.50) with two pair, Kings and QueensSeat 6: NoMasBluffs (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)PokerStars Game #11122044149: Hold'em No Limit ($1/$2) - 2007/07/25 - 01:24:22 (ET)Table 'Eumaios V' 6-max Seat #2 is the buttonSeat 1: $GM$AN$EY$ ($100 in chips) Seat 2: repnthebay ($169.75 in chips) Seat 3: AsydRayne ($415.70 in chips) Seat 4: Housegamer ($299.20 in chips) Seat 5: tb17 ($239.35 in chips) Seat 6: CarpeZiem ($174.70 in chips) AsydRayne: posts small blind $1Housegamer: posts big blind $2$GM$AN$EY$: posts small & big blinds $3*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to tb17 [Ah Ad]tb17: raises $6 to $8CarpeZiem: raises $15 to $23$GM$AN$EY$: folds repnthebay: folds AsydRayne: folds Housegamer: folds tb17: calls $15*** FLOP *** [Th Td 9c]tb17: checks CarpeZiem: bets $38tb17: raises $178.35 to $216.35 and is all-inCarpeZiem: calls $113.70 and is all-in*** TURN *** [Th Td 9c] [Kd]*** RIVER *** [Th Td 9c Kd] [5h]*** SHOW DOWN ***tb17: shows [Ah Ad] (two pair, Aces and Tens)CarpeZiem: mucks hand tb17 collected $352.40 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $355.40 | Rake $3 Board [Th Td 9c Kd 5h]Seat 1: $GM$AN$EY$ folded before FlopSeat 2: repnthebay (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: AsydRayne (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 4: Housegamer (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: tb17 showed [Ah Ad] and won ($352.40) with two pair, Aces and TensSeat 6: CarpeZiem mucked [Jc Jd]

[BellaireDrew 2]

Im starting a new challenge today. Starting BR of $250 goal is to be at $5000 by end of August.Im going to use a 10 BI strategy. if i fall to 7 Bi ill drop back down, the moment i have 10 BI for the next level Ill move up. Also i wont be playing any tournaments. One because i dont usually make any money on them and two they sometimes put me on tilt more than cash games.

lost 2 BI at .1/.25 nl, BR down to $201. Im going to drop down to .05/.10 tomorrow

[mln_falcon 0]

So I've started playing the Stars 100 grand sats in order to build up some $T cos I suck at tourneys and would like to get better and these things are killer easy. I figure if I have a seperate bankroll for tourneys I may play better. Im at 15.80 focusing on the 2.20 turbos. On the cash front, last week I took a shot at nl25 and ran very well to start, and then I played bad/ran semi not good and lost all the profit back to break even. But since moving back down nl10 has seemed so much easier so I might stay here for a while longer than planned, maybe till the roll is 700ish. I'm not sure I may see how I feel as I go along. Roll as of now$563.55T$15.40

[TB17 0]

I'm up about 1k since I started the trek, I'm officially halfway to my goal (of course I started like 48% to my goal).Bankroll - $12,561I need - $12,439Some hands from the sessionPOKERSTARS GAME #11127408753: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/07/25 - 12:36:16 (ET)Table 'Lundia' 6-max Seat #4 is the buttonSeat 2: AbacabDonkey ($213 in chips) Seat 3: tb17 ($292.25 in chips) Seat 4: You Give Up ($50.40 in chips) Seat 5: backbuck ($135 in chips) Seat 6: Matze_GZ ($277 in chips) backbuck: posts small blind $1Lucky_WIns has returnedMatze_GZ: posts big blind $2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to tb17 [Ad Kh]AbacabDonkey: folds tb17: raises $6 to $8You Give Up: folds backbuck: raises $16 to $24Matze_GZ: folds tb17: raises $76 to $100backbuck: calls $76*** FLOP *** [Tc Td 5c]backbuck: checks tb17: bets $80backbuck: folds tb17 collected $200 from pottb17 said, "?"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $202 | Rake $2 Board [Tc Td 5c]Seat 2: AbacabDonkey folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: tb17 collected ($200)Seat 4: You Give Up (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: backbuck (small blind) folded on the FlopSeat 6: Matze_GZ (big blind) folded before FlopPOKERSTARS GAME #11126939746: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2007/07/25 - 11:56:09 (ET)Table 'Griqua' 6-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: tb17 ($203 in chips) Seat 2: pitpistola ($200.80 in chips) Seat 3: DatDfrunchen ($424.55 in chips) Seat 4: myke11 ($205 in chips) Seat 5: Wyse ($255 in chips) Seat 6: ZeKGB ($200 in chips) pitpistola: posts small blind $1DatDfrunchen: posts big blind $2*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to tb17 [Ac Ks]myke11: folds Wyse: folds ZeKGB: folds tb17: raises $6 to $8pitpistola: calls $7DatDfrunchen: folds *** FLOP *** [Jd Th 4c]pitpistola: checks tb17: bets $10pitpistola: raises $10 to $20tb17: calls $10*** TURN *** [Jd Th 4c] [Qh]pitpistola: bets $56tb17: raises $119 to $175 and is all-inpitpistola: calls $116.80 and is all-in*** RIVER *** [Jd Th 4c Qh] [8s]*** SHOW DOWN ***pitpistola: shows [4h 4s] (three of a kind, Fours)tb17: shows [Ac Ks] (a straight, Ten to Ace)tb17 collected $400.60 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $403.60 | Rake $3 Board [Jd Th 4c Qh 8s]Seat 1: tb17 (button) showed [Ac Ks] and won ($400.60) with a straight, Ten to AceSeat 2: pitpistola (small blind) showed [4h 4s] and lost with three of a kind, FoursSeat 3: DatDfrunchen (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 4: myke11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 5: Wyse folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: ZeKGB folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[TB17 0]

How do you think I shoulda played this?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Button ($22.95)SB ($214.80)BB ($199.10)UTG ($206.35)Hero ($419.60)CO ($415.20)Preflop: Hero is MP with T, T. 1 fold, Hero raises to $7, CO calls $7, 3 folds.Flop: ($17) K, 6, 9(2 players)Hero bets $12, CO calls $12.Turn: ($41) T(2 players)Hero bets $30, CO raises to $96

[AAsnake88 0]

How do you think I shoulda played this?

I shove.Stack AK.Profit.

[TB17 0]

I shove.Stack AK.Profit.

AK will not call me there, he's a good player who will only stack off with MINIMUM 66.Deepstacked he will probably fold KT, at least he should be.

[AAsnake88 0]

...and people ask why I don't play nl.

[TB17 0]

-$500 after another 1k hands, I need about $13k

[HoosierAlum 0]

How do you think I shoulda played this?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $2 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)Button ($22.95)SB ($214.80)BB ($199.10)UTG ($206.35)Hero ($419.60)CO ($415.20)Preflop: Hero is MP with T, T. 1 fold, Hero raises to $7, CO calls $7, 3 folds.Flop: ($17) K, 6, 9(2 players)Hero bets $12, CO calls $12.Turn: ($41) T(2 players)Hero bets $30, CO raises to $96

minraise pbvna i prob flat/lead most rivers

[TB17 0]

minraise pbvna i prob flat/lead most rivers

What do you think about a Flat/CC? Anything that beats you will probably be raising the river so I dont see how a lead can be profitable

[NoSup4U 0]

Teddy you can stack a nit with KT if you call and check/shove river.Is he good enough to call flop with QJ?Mark

[No_Neck 0]

What do you think about a Flat/CC? Anything that beats you will probably be raising the river so I dont see how a lead can be profitable

there are 4 hands that beat you? 87 TT QJ and KK what are you worried about?

[TB17 0]

I think if I'm gonna be flattying here I'm not gonna be betting the river Unimproved.

[TB17 0]

there are three hands that beat you? 87 TT and KK what are you worried about?

There are 3 hands that beat me, but only 2 that I beat that will call my shove or my river bet. That is 66 and 99. KT will not call a shove, but maybe call a river bet. I think a shove is bad because there are so many hands that you beat (AK, bluff, 9T,that will n ot call a shove). I'm not saying to fold, but I'm trying to think of a way to make the most money out of this hand, and I don't think shoving or betting the river unimproved does the trick.

[HoosierAlum 0]

What do you think about a Flat/CC? Anything that beats you will probably be raising the river so I dont see how a lead can be profitable

ya it would be a bet/fold probably. Flat/cc prob best actually. The only thing that worries me is losing value from hands like KJss, KQss that he might check back if he misses the river...don't know if he would raise those on turn anyway; you said he is good so i doubt it.

[TB17 0]

ya it would be a bet/fold probably. Flat/cc prob best actually. The only thing that worries me is losing value from hands like KJss, KQss that he might check back if he misses the river...don't know if he would raise those on turn anyway; you said he is good so i doubt it.

He's capable of semi bluffing with KJs and KQs as I've played with him a lot, but he definately wouldn't bet the river. Ok, I'mg lad we're thinkin on the same level cuz I thought a shove was stupid.PS. I need Jeet to reply.Mark: There's no way Im gonna C/R that river. No freakin way. I think there's about a 25% chance he'll be betting KT or even 66 on a blank river.

[gilbertology 0]

Wow I run good. I had to look twice and make sure I made it.Full Tilt Poker Game #3052015595: Table Trails End (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 1:36:07 ET - 2007/07/25Seat 1: sonofz ($387)Seat 2: Lynette Chan ($539)Seat 3: jakehergz ($362.80)Seat 4: Zimmer4141 ($572.60)Seat 5: JQXZ ($400)Seat 6: MagPriss16 ($56.10)JQXZ posts the small blind of $2MagPriss16 posts the big blind of $4The button is in seat #4*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Zimmer4141 [4c 5c]sonofz foldsLynette Chan foldsjakehergz foldsZimmer4141 raises to $14JQXZ calls $12MagPriss16 folds*** FLOP *** [9h 2d Td]JQXZ checksZimmer4141 bets $24JQXZ calls $24*** TURN *** [9h 2d Td] [Ad]JQXZ checksZimmer4141 bets $54JQXZ calls $54*** RIVER *** [9h 2d Td Ad] [3s]JQXZ checksZimmer4141 has 15 seconds left to actZimmer4141 bets $110JQXZ calls $110*** SHOW DOWN ***Zimmer4141 shows [4c 5c] a straight, Five highJQXZ mucksZimmer4141 wins the pot ($405) with a straight, Five high*** SUMMARY ***Total pot $408 | Rake $3Board: [9h 2d Td Ad 3s]Seat 1: sonofz didn't bet (folded)Seat 2: Lynette Chan didn't bet (folded)Seat 3: jakehergz didn't bet (folded)Seat 4: Zimmer4141 (button) showed [4c 5c] and won ($405) with a straight, Five highSeat 5: JQXZ (small blind) mucked [9c Ac] - two pair, Aces and NinesSeat 6: MagPriss16 (big blind) folded before the FlopTo be fair, I took a 2 outer in a $600 pot a few minutes before this, so I don't always run this good.

jqxz is a very good player.I've only had pahud for two days now but it's already helped me win a few key pots. Played about 600 hands yesterday at 2/4 on ftp(most hands I've played in one day in awhile), and was down 250 after my first session when my AA went all in pre vs QQ and Q flops. That got me steamed because I was up before that so I left immediately. Then two tabled for two hours and ran goot, twice I got it all in on the flop with a flush draw vs set and hit both. One was agaisnt Lynette Chan on a 346 two heart board she had 66 vs my 10Jh and immediately said "disgusting" when the 5h came on the river, lol. Finished with 1345 and change at both tables, so started off my run to 5k good. Up about 1700 so far, I'm sure my luck will run out today so I might not play altho its just too tempting not to.

[NoSup4U 0]

He's capable of semi bluffing with KJs and KQs as I've played with him a lot, but he definately wouldn't bet the river. Ok, I'mg lad we're thinkin on the same level cuz I thought a shove was stupid.PS. I need Jeet to reply.Mark: There's no way Im gonna C/R that river. No freakin way. I think there's about a 25% chance he'll be betting KT or even 66 on a blank river.

If YOU had a set on river and were villian, and hero flat called you on turn and checked river to you, are you just checking behind? wth???I don't think KT, 66, or 99 can fold river if you check raise given the size of the pot. He could have 87. Its doubtful he has QJ or KK.I dunno, I mean, he range is wider here than just the nuts right?Mark

[TB17 0]

If YOU had a set on river and were villian, and hero flat called you on turn and checked river to you, are you just checking behind? wth???I don't think KJ, 66, or 99 can fold river if you check raise given the size of the pot. He could have 87. Its doubtful he has QJ or KK.I dunno, I mean, he range is wider here than just the nuts right?Mark

If I had 66 and I'm the villain I dont get value from a lot of hands that he can have, possibly KT. But I think he would be capable of folding all 1 pair hands, and most 2 pair hands, which is what I'd put him on if I have him beat. Then there is the fact that he could be check/calling with a bigger set, or maybe the nuts. Is it really profitable to bet the river when the only hands that will call me (THAT I BEAT) are most likely 9T and KT?

[BellaireDrew 2]

up 5 BI at .05/.1 bringing bR back to $250. so i moved back up to .1/.25.Then i played this hand really badly. I think i should shut down after flop call.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)saw flop|saw showdownSB ($24.15)BB ($22.50)UTG ($25.70)Hero ($36.75)MP1 ($19.90)MP2 ($22.10)MP3 ($57.50)CO ($16.55)Button ($26.70)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, J. UTG raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $3, 7 folds, UTG calls $2.25.Flop: ($6.35) 6, 9, 6(2 players)UTG bets $2, Hero raises to $10, UTG calls $8.Turn: ($26.35) Q(2 players)UTG checks, Hero bets $13, UTG calls $12.70 (All-In).River: ($51.75) 9(2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $51.76Results in white below: UTG has Kc Kd (two pair, kings and nines). Hero has Jd Jc (two pair, jacks and nines). Outcome: UTG wins $51.75. Hero wins $0.29.

[NoSup4U 0]

PS. I need Jeet to reply.

[18:52] Jeet - NYC 21: uhhh[18:52] Jeet - NYC 21: shove?[18:52] Jeet - NYC 21: or put in a small raise and call a shove?[18:53] Jeet - NYC 21: i hope this isn't a trick question!Done and done.Mark

[Hoop Addict 0]

Played for 1 hour last night after I got home from busting at the cas. Won $130 playing ~1 hour/100 hands of NL100 (6-Max)Won $75 playing ~1 hour/100 hands of NL50 (6-max)Had my $50 up to $190 in the NL50 game, then lost with KK after EP raised to $2, I re-raised to $7, he calls. Q high flop, he leads for $10, I make it $25 (thinking I'm way good here), he shoved another $60 on top & I obv call. He flips over AA. Damn cooler. Pretty huge pot for a 25c/50c game.**Edit - can anyone tell me if that's really donkish the way I played that hand. I'm a huge cash donk, but I'm trying to get better. I'm going broke every time in a tourney with that hand, but is it a leak to call his shove? Does he have AQ there enough to make it profitable?

[PoppinFresh 0]

jesus christ teddy what kind of nitfest is 1/2 where people fold top two and don't value bet sets on the river. What the hell is the point of even raising the turn if you don't want to get value from your hand. Get the dadgum money in on the turn

[The Lobster 0]

Since I have been lurking in the forum for months, I finally decided to stop being lazy and sign up. And because most of my lurking has happened in this thread, i figured it was only appropriate to hijack and say my hellos here.Anyways, quick history about me - used to beat the 2/4 limit tables on Party pretty decently, then after taking some time off, made the switch to NLHE where I am doing my best to learn the intricacies of the game while playing on PS. Began my own challenge at the beginning of this month of turning $250 into, well, more. (I just realized I don't have a quantifiable goal.... hmmmm....need one of those.....lol) So, currently I'm hovering around 1k, doing ok so far.It has been a pleasure following everyone's adventures, I have been learning a lot, and I finally wanted to get in on the fun, so I'll try not to donk it up too much!