simo_8ball 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 It depends on the tendencies of the villain 200 BB deep. I probably wouldn't 3bet 99 there 200 BBs deep most of the time but I'm not the most experienced deep stack player.That surprises me. I mean, I've tightened up my 3bet ranges a lot recently, but I'd still be 3betting quite a fairly wide range there usually against a TAG button raise until he started adjusting. Link to post Share on other sites
The Lobster 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 What does this mean for your bottom line?Whatever it is, I would just like to mention that you are NOT welcome on AP. Link to post Share on other sites
Snamuh 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 That surprises me. I mean, I've tightened up my 3bet ranges a lot recently, but I'd still be 3betting quite a fairly wide range there usually against a TAG button raise until he started adjusting.I'd rather defend my button deep in position than defend my blinds deep OOP. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 What does this mean for your bottom line?Ummmm........not a lot, just will have to wait much, much longer for my FPP money. I will now have to accumulate FPP's for much, much longer. 8x longer for the most part. And then even once I have redeemed my FPP's for a 4k bonus it takes forever to work it off. So basically instead of receiving $500 like once a week, I will get 4k about once every 2 and a half months. Definitely sucks but not the end of the world. Hopefully they come up with something new that isn't a bonus that is comparable. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 That surprises me. I mean, I've tightened up my 3bet ranges a lot recently, but I'd still be 3betting quite a fairly wide range there usually against a TAG button raise until he started adjusting.Those aren't the types of hands you want to play huge pots with OOP. In position you can definitely have a wider 3 bet range deep but OOP I think you are going to find yourself in a ton of horrible spots. As effective stacks get bigger positional advantage goes up exponentially. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Ugh Rdog that SUCKS!!!Mark Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Rdog, results on that A high flush hand? I cant stop thinking about it!Another disappointment..........Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 28485The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterHero (CO): $200.00BTN: $314.45SB: $121.00BB: $93.35UTG: $407.50MP: $116.45Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with J A 1 fold, MP raises to $4, Hero calls $4, BTN calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2Flop: ($17.00) 7 8 6 (4 players)BB checks, MP bets $8, Hero raises to $24, BTN calls $24, BB folds, MP foldsTurn: ($73.00) 5 (2 players)Hero bets $58, BTN calls $58River: ($189.00) 8 (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $228.45 all in, Hero foldsFinal Pot: $189.00BTN wins $186.00(Rake: $3.00) Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Ugh Rdog that SUCKS!!!MarkYeah, Stars hasn't made an announcement or anything. Several people have just posted on 2+2 that they had receipts denied and said Concierge wasn't available. So even though I doubt it, I am hopeful they are doing something else for us. Link to post Share on other sites
mhoward29 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Yeah, Stars hasn't made an announcement or anything. Several people have just posted on 2+2 that they had receipts denied and said Concierge wasn't available. So even though I doubt it, I am hopeful they are doing something else for us.Play somewhere else to get rackback? Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Play somewhere else to get rackback?I emailed FT a couple weeks ago about getting rakeback there just so it would give me more midstakes games to game select from and they gave the "we will put you on the list" answer. Maybe I will come play with Lobsta. Link to post Share on other sites
whatgreatis 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Maybe I will come play with Lobsta.Sigh. Do you have to? Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I <3 Looshle, that is all.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
The Lobster 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I emailed FT a couple weeks ago about getting rakeback there just so it would give me more midstakes games to game select from and they gave the "we will put you on the list" answer. Maybe I will come play with Lobsta. Whatever it is, I would just like to mention that you are NOT welcome on AP. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 I <3 Looshle, that is all.MarkHaha, yeah . Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Rdog I heard AP is soft as hell. I'd try it out. The games on Tilt have been super tough lately.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Besides I want to play with Tiffany Michelle. Link to post Share on other sites
The Lobster 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Rdog I heard AP is soft as hell. I'd try it out. The games on Tilt have been super tough lately.Mark adfbhuiopbno;iubnauiopegha;eohao;gnaeoigna;oeurgharuo;egharuo;gfi;augvfbyewfguyt,jhvaskutfBesides I want to play with Tiffany Michelle.At least if you are going to steal my action, you could use me as a rake referral. http://www.raketherake.com/?Refer=RTR20668 Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Besides I want to play with Tiffany Michelle.She's the illestMark Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 adfbhuiopbno;iubnauiopegha;eohao;gnaeoigna;oeurgharuo;egharuo;gfi;augvfbyewfguyt,jhvaskutfAt least if you are going to steal my action, you could use me as a rake referral. http://www.raketherake.com/?Refer=RTR20668 Speaking of stealing action..............does Kurt know what you are up to? Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Really bad timing for Stars to be taking benefits away from their players when they have had a huge lag in their software for the last 2 months or so. Link to post Share on other sites
gilbertology 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Rdog I heard AP is soft as hell. I'd try it out. The games on Tilt have been super tough lately.Mark I've heard the games on Tilt have been full of fish, while you can have other players see your hands on AP . Full of regs too Link to post Share on other sites
empythree 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Why can't you just close your fulltilt account and then sign up another account using a rakeback site? Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Why can't you just close your fulltilt account and then sign up another account using a rakeback site?For the same reason I probably won't open an AP account even though I know the games are soft and their reward system is the best out there. Link to post Share on other sites
gilbertology 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Another disappointment..........Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 28485The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterHero (CO): $200.00BTN: $314.45SB: $121.00BB: $93.35UTG: $407.50MP: $116.45Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with J A 1 fold, MP raises to $4, Hero calls $4, BTN calls $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2Flop: ($17.00) 7 8 6 (4 players)BB checks, MP bets $8, Hero raises to $24, BTN calls $24, BB folds, MP foldsTurn: ($73.00) 5 (2 players)Hero bets $58, BTN calls $58River: ($189.00) 8 (2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $228.45 all in, Hero foldsFinal Pot: $189.00BTN wins $186.00(Rake: $3.00)You really think he has the full house, prolly 78, >70% of the time here?Against some random not good player with little info I'd call, even tho I expect a full house about half the time. The other times I think he could have a flush or straight, value-owning himself. Can't really think of anything else he could have here, as air doesn't make sense. Link to post Share on other sites
pocktdeuces 0 Posted February 4, 2009 Share Posted February 4, 2009 Rdog I heard AP is soft as hell. I'd try it out. The games on Tilt have been super tough lately.Mark 2/4 full ring on ftp is the softest limit on the internet IMO Link to post Share on other sites
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