wsox8 10 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Don't focus on winning and losing in individual sessions. Limit is especially swingy, keep playing if you feel like you are playing well and the table's good. If you're tired and not playing well, then quit.I know this is an extremely general question but should and what type of #s should I be looking for when I pick a table? like Avg pot, Plrs a flop, or some PT stats? Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I know this is an extremely general question but should and what type of #s should I be looking for when I pick a table? like Avg pot, Plrs a flop, or some PT stats?When I'm joining tables (limit or NL) I look first for high flop%, then high average pot. You want tables where the money is flying around. There aren't specific numbers I look for, just the highest available. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I dont look at avg pots or high flop % for NL, I look for even stacks, because I dislike playing against shortstacks and big stacks. I like them all around the 150-250 range. (75-125 BB range)I stole this from Mark, he can elaborate for sure. Link to post Share on other sites
zimmer4141 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I personally don't mind playing against shortstacks. I feel like somebody who has a shortstack most likely plays poorly, so I have a bigger edge over them rather than somebody who buys in full. Link to post Share on other sites
BellaireDrew 2 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Long time lurker of this thread. I ev been busto online for a while now and haven't had any extra loot to put up. But today i used my last 70 FPP to win a seat in the Sunday hundred grand and won. Then i used the $T and turned it into about $30. Now im gunna grind the $1 Sng and .01/.02 nl six max, hopefully to turn it into some what of a BR. Hope you guys dont mind me posting my results in here. Link to post Share on other sites
Jordan 1 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 finally (haha) had a good hu sesh. won like 6 buy-ins...3rd session of the month so...i need to hurry up.- Jordan Link to post Share on other sites
DoinSublime 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Long time lurker of this thread. I ev been busto online for a while now and haven't had any extra loot to put up. But today i used my last 70 FPP to win a seat in the Sunday hundred grand and won. Then i used the $T and turned it into about $30. Now im gunna grind the $1 Sng and .01/.02 nl six max, hopefully to turn it into some what of a BR. Hope you guys dont mind me posting my results in here. post when you go broke.- Jordanj/kgood luck, run like GodMark! Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 here's been the story of my poker game todayI get QQ and it's capped, Q-5-8 (2 diamonds), turn x of diamonds, river is a diamond, He has 9-6 1 diamond.I get JJ, it's 3 bet, flop J-x-x (3 diamonds) capped flop, turn is a diamond, river bricks, he has Ad Qedit: Variance on AP is kicking me in the balls really hard... Link to post Share on other sites
EStormOk 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Here a the last two hands from the last Sit n go I played. I was in 4 of these. All of them ended brutally, this one was just two much. I realize alone these two are not that brutal, but one right after the other is just to much for me. It has been like this since moving to Stars. What is the email address to get that doom switch turned off?PokerStars Game #10792116598: Tournament #54695634, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2007/07/06 - 00:28:52 (ET)Table '54695634 1' 9-max Seat #1 is the buttonSeat 1: EStormOk (9230 in chips) Seat 7: Evil_One (4270 in chips) EStormOk: posts the ante 25Evil_One: posts the ante 25EStormOk: posts small blind 100Evil_One: posts big blind 200*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to EStormOk [3d 8d]EStormOk: calls 100Evil_One: raises 600 to 800EStormOk: calls 600*** FLOP *** [2d Js 7d]Evil_One: bets 1000EStormOk: calls 1000*** TURN *** [2d Js 7d] [4d]Evil_One: bets 2445 and is all-inEStormOk: calls 2445*** RIVER *** [2d Js 7d 4d] [6s]*** SHOW DOWN ***Evil_One: shows [Ad Kd] (a flush, Ace high)EStormOk: shows [3d 8d] (a flush, Eight high)EStormOk said, "figures."Evil_One collected 8540 from potEStormOk said, "nh"Evil_One said, "o"*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 8540 | Rake 0 Board [2d Js 7d 4d 6s]Seat 1: EStormOk (button) (small blind) showed [3d 8d] and lost with a flush, Eight highSeat 7: Evil_One (big blind) showed [Ad Kd] and won (8540) with a flush, Ace highPokerStars Game #10792123981: Tournament #54695634, $1.00+$0.20 Hold'em No Limit - Level VIII (200/400) - 2007/07/06 - 00:29:27 (ET)Table '54695634 1' 9-max Seat #7 is the buttonSeat 1: EStormOk (4960 in chips) Seat 7: Evil_One (8540 in chips) EStormOk: posts the ante 25Evil_One: posts the ante 25Evil_One: posts small blind 200EStormOk: posts big blind 400*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to EStormOk [9h Th]Evil_One said, ";-)"Evil_One: calls 200EStormOk: checks *** FLOP *** [Td Jh Kh]EStormOk: bets 800Evil_One: raises 7315 to 8115 and is all-inEStormOk: calls 3735 and is all-in*** TURN *** [Td Jh Kh] [2s]EStormOk said, "last two were rigged."*** RIVER *** [Td Jh Kh 2s] [2d]*** SHOW DOWN ***EStormOk: shows [9h Th] (two pair, Tens and Deuces)Evil_One: shows [Js Tc] (two pair, Jacks and Tens)Evil_One collected 9920 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 9920 | Rake 0 Board [Td Jh Kh 2s 2d]Seat 1: EStormOk (big blind) showed [9h Th] and lost with two pair, Tens and DeucesSeat 7: Evil_One (button) (small blind) showed [Js Tc] and won (9920) with two pair, Jacks and Tensps. sorry about not converting these hands, I don't have a converter.pss. Yes, I realize the $1 Sit n goes are nasty, just trying to slower clear a bonus. Cash games at my br don't even award fpps. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Long time lurker of this thread. I ev been busto online for a while now and haven't had any extra loot to put up. But today i used my last 70 FPP to win a seat in the Sunday hundred grand and won. Then i used the $T and turned it into about $30. Now im gunna grind the $1 Sng and .01/.02 nl six max, hopefully to turn it into some what of a BR. Hope you guys dont mind me posting my results in here.Jump in and join the fun!Mark Link to post Share on other sites
stealfromblind 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I can't remember the exact start point, but I'm up about 70Kish since the beginning of the year. But I've been stuck at 70K for over a month now, basically been even for the last 6 weeks.Markyour a sick human being man, keep it up. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I dont look at avg pots or high flop % for NL, I look for even stacks, because I dislike playing against shortstacks and big stacks. I like them all around the 150-250 range. (75-125 BB range)I stole this from Mark, he can elaborate for sure.yeah basically I like a lot of average players. Huge stacks generally indicate really good players. Shortstackers usually suck, so if there is one at the table and they are on my right, thats ok.But I raise a lot pf, so I don't like shorties to my left cause they shove on me a lot and I can barely ever call them.So like Teddy said, a bunch of people right around the buyin for the table is ideal for me.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I can't remember the exact start point, but I'm up about 70Kish since the beginning of the year. But I've been stuck at 70K for over a month now, basically been even for the last 6 weeks.MarkThat's because you're learning a new style of play and adding new weapons to your arsenal (this style happens to have higher variance). Tiger Woods faded off the radar for a year while he revamped his swing, but nobody can argue that that was a poor choice now. Short term sacrifice for long term gain.Cheers,Merby Link to post Share on other sites
Merby 3 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 ps. sorry about not converting these hands, I don't have a converter. http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.phpNo program needs to be installed on your computer: just copy your hand history and paste it into the "input" box. Click the convert button and copy the contents of the "output" box into your post.Enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites
EStormOk 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.phpNo program needs to be installed on your computer: just copy your hand history and paste it into the "input" box. Click the convert button and copy the contents of the "output" box into your post.Enjoy!Thanks Merby, I will use that in the future. Link to post Share on other sites
mln_falcon 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Value shove Ace hi on the turn, Poker is easyPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (3 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FCP)saw flop|saw showdownHero ($23.40)SB ($5.90)BB ($4.55)Preflop: Hero is Button with Q , A . Hero raises to $0.3, 1 fold, BB raises to $0.5, Hero calls $0.20.Flop: ($1.05) T , 3 , 8 (2 players)BB checks, Hero checks.Turn: ($1.05) 3 (2 players)BB bets $1.1, Hero raises to $6, BB calls $2.95 (All-In).River: ($11.10) 9 (2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: $11.10Results in white below: BB has 2d As (one pair, threes). Hero has Qc Ac (one pair, threes). Outcome: Hero wins $11.10. Link to post Share on other sites
mln_falcon 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Long time lurker of this thread. I ev been busto online for a while now and haven't had any extra loot to put up. But today i used my last 70 FPP to win a seat in the Sunday hundred grand and won. Then i used the $T and turned it into about $30. Now im gunna grind the $1 Sng and .01/.02 nl six max, hopefully to turn it into some what of a BR. Hope you guys dont mind me posting my results in here.It can be done, $30 dollars after donking my bankroll playing tourneys I couldn't afford to just under $400 today. The most important part is bankroll management, don't leave 1c/2c till you have around 125 or more if you plan to buy in for $5 at 2c/5c, which I recommend.Edit www.donk2shark.com for some videos that are decent at 1c/2c Link to post Share on other sites
wisky_VI 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 proof that I'm running goot:my folks had my youngest daughter at NY NY casino during the afternoon and evening but were long gone before the wacko started popping caps at 1am.I run goot. whew. I also need to stop pondering the timing thing and think about something else........ Link to post Share on other sites
BellaireDrew 2 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (5 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)MP ($3.40)Hero ($5.07)SB ($5.22)BB ($4.94)UTG ($4.43)Preflop: Hero is Button with A, Q. UTG calls $0.02, MP calls $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, SB completes, BB checks.Flop: ($0.10) 6, Q, 4(5 players)SB checks, BB bets $0.06, UTG folds, MP folds, Hero raises to $0.3, SB folds, BB calls $0.24.Turn: ($0.70) 3(2 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.45, BB raises to $4.62, Hero folds.Final Pot: $5.77I know I should have raised preflop, but after the flop did I play this badly? Link to post Share on other sites
Vtlaxer09 4 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Bad fold. You're playing .01/.02 he probably had K J. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I've seen a lot of hands on AP and it seems like if there's 3-4-5 on the board that either a 2 or 6 will eventually come to give a straight. Yeah my evidence blows but I've seen it over and over again when I have a set that I lose to something like 5-6 or 2-3.. and I've also seen a lot boards with 4 of one suit.. Could be that I'm in a sweet downswing and I don't remember the other hands but those are two things I've seen a lot of.Also, players on AP will not fold which means you have to have the best hand and have it hold (can be hard to do). I've played a little on PS and seems like people kind of know how to fold. I shouldn't be complaining because thte AP people will end up paying me off in the long run once their cards don't hit.Poker StarsLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $1/$25 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $34.50GarbageBag: $53.75Button: $68.75SB: $14.25BB: $33Pre-flop: (5 players) GarbageBag is CO with Q Q UTG folds, GarbageBag raises, Button 3-bets, SB calls, BB calls, GarbageBag caps, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.Flop: 7 K 6 (16SB, 4 players)SB checks, BB checks, GarbageBag bets, 3 folds.Uncalled bets: 1SB returned to GarbageBag. Results:Final pot: 8BBNot sure how they all missed there. Link to post Share on other sites
BellaireDrew 2 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Just chopped heads up in a 2.20 PLO8 tourny, bring the BR to $182. not bad if i may so, with having nothing at the beginning of yesterday. Link to post Share on other sites
NoSup4U 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 proof that I'm running goot:my folks had my youngest daughter at NY NY casino during the afternoon and evening but were long gone before the wacko started popping caps at 1am.I run goot. whew. I also need to stop pondering the timing thing and think about something else........Ugh Jim thats scary. Glad everyone is ok!!!Played an hour or so this morning, up about $250. I played 141 hands at one of my tables, and my stats were 51/42 when I was done. hahahaha!!!! I was actually up a buyin and a half there.Mark Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Wanted to see how others would have played this. I know it's probably a stupid question but someone else and I were discussing it at the table. I'm not the hero in the hand. What do you think of the hero's play?Absolute PokerLimit Holdem Ring gameLimit: $2/$46 playersConverterStack sizes:UTG: $79.30Hero: $133.75CO: $46.25Button: $59.50SB: $68.79BB: $162.40Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with 5 5 UTG folds, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB raises, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button calls.Flop: 8 9 J (10SB, 5 players)SB bets, BB calls, Hero calls, CO calls, Button folds.Played about 1000 hands of 2/4 today, was down $98, then up $154 and ended being up $95.. should have left earlier but I'm still trying to deal with my staying to long at a table problem. Link to post Share on other sites
TB17 0 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Im heading home tomorrow, the night before i bubbled and gave my laptop screen a beatdown ala mike matusow, best buy dont screw me on warranty one timeeeee Link to post Share on other sites
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