SuperJon 175 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Most of us know that playing tournaments is -EV. We also know that making a living off tournaments is incredibly difficult. So why do we play them when there are such better options out there, mainly cash games? The main reason I love to play tournaments so much is the end. Simply put, there is an ultimate end to every tournament I play in. There is a finish line that everyone is trying to cross. It may take time after time of busting before you finally cross that finish line. But when you do, it's one of the greatest feelings in the world. Of course, in your moment of glory, you never stop to think that this win only puts you slightly in the green overall. None the less, it's still an amazing feeling. Now in cash games, there is no finish line. There is no end, only a time when you leave or the table breaks up. There is no one true winner. Rather a few people who end the night with a profit.So if you play tournaments almost exclusively. Why? Link to post Share on other sites
MR_BIZKITZ 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 cause I've never made 300 times my buyin in a cash game Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Most of us know that playing tournaments is -EV. We also know that making a living off tournaments is incredibly difficult. So why do we play them when there are such better options out there, mainly cash games? The main reason I love to play tournaments so much is the end. Simply put, there is an ultimate end to every tournament I play in. There is a finish line that everyone is trying to cross. It may take time after time of busting before you finally cross that finish line. But when you do, it's one of the greatest feelings in the world. Of course, in your moment of glory, you never stop to think that this win only puts you slightly in the green overall. None the less, it's still an amazing feeling. Now in cash games, there is no finish line. There is no end, only a time when you leave or the table breaks up. There is no one true winner. Rather a few people who end the night with a profit.So if you play tournaments almost exclusively. Why?HUH ? Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 HUH ?Ya....nope. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 HUH ? Ya....nope.Forgive me it's late here. Buying in for $10 at a chance to win $2000 is +EVI guess I'm just wondering why we all play in tournaments so much when we know for a fact unless we make a big score, we really are just throwing away money. Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 If you're seriously asking this question, then.....nah....nope....I'm definately not explaining this...sorry.. Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Forgive me it's late here. Buying in for $10 at a chance to win $2000 is +EVI guess I'm just wondering why we all play in tournaments so much when we know for a fact unless we make a big score, we really are just throwing away money.This isn't true. You shouldn't look at tournaments like that. You should realize that if you are a winning player, every time you enter a tourney you make money (whatever your average expectation is). A better question would be why do people play tournies when cash is more profitable. My answer: I suck at cash games. Link to post Share on other sites
cubsfan44 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Forgive me it's late here. Buying in for $10 at a chance to win $2000 is +EVI guess I'm just wondering why we all play in tournaments so much when we know for a fact unless we make a big score, we really are just throwing away money.Yup thats it right there. Link to post Share on other sites
RickyG033 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Because if Moneymaker can do it, ANYONE can do it... Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 If you're seriously asking this question, then.....nah....nope....I'm definately not explaining this...sorry..I am seriously asking the question.Why would someone choose to play tournaments for a living instead of cash games?Would you try to make a living off scratch off tickets and the weekly lottery instead of working at McDonald's? Link to post Share on other sites
pckt10s 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 for shits and giggles... Link to post Share on other sites
kkot 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Would you try to make a living off scratch off tickets and the weekly lottery instead of working at McDonald's?Because you can make money in the long run with tournaments. Link to post Share on other sites
RickyG033 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 No, but honestly... I play tournaments because cash games bore me. The blinds never going up just isnt very exciting for me. Also, like someone said about having a goal to reach...There is nothing better than the feeling you get after winning a poker tourney Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 This isn't true. You shouldn't look at tournaments like that. You should realize that if you are a winning player, every time you enter a tourney you make money (whatever your average expectation is). A better question would be why do people play tournies when cash is more profitable. My answer: I suck at cash games. Well I did ask that, but thank you for making it a bit more clear, and thank you for answering. Link to post Share on other sites
ForRealDD 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 These are tournament stats for a random player. The bolded part is average expectation. That is what that person can expect to win every tournament they enter. ITM Rate: 22.1%FT Rate: 7.8%Top 3 Rate: 4.3%Avg. Finish: 42/100Avg. Buyin: $23Avg. Field Size: 943ROI: 142.5%Avg. Buyins Won: 3.346Avg. Expectation: $35 Link to post Share on other sites
Pack149 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I play tournaments for a couple of reasons. One of the biggest was that when I was learning the game and building my bankroll, I did it with micro limit sit and go's. Most of my strategy for games was based on tournament style, not cash. I also got more play for my money compared to cash games. Its now hard for me to play cash games because Im so used to tournament strategy. Link to post Share on other sites
murok 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 This isn't true. You shouldn't look at tournaments like that. You should realize that if you are a winning player, every time you enter a tourney you make money (whatever your average expectation is). A better question would be why do people play tournies when cash is more profitable. My answer: I suck at cash games.i conquer Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 i conquerThat good, huh?What's your secret? Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 i conquerNapoleon? Link to post Share on other sites
Tantalar 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Yep DN is stuck so much money from tournament poker Link to post Share on other sites
cubsfan44 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 Napoleon?GOSH Link to post Share on other sites
WhatArunAA 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 what grinder said... ...But the reason why I took a hiatus from tournament poker is I cant handle the swings emotionally right now... but to say Tournament poker is -EV is downright Luda. Link to post Share on other sites
murok 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I'm a poker player not a linguist concur conquer same thing Link to post Share on other sites
the_stein 0 Posted February 18, 2007 Share Posted February 18, 2007 I still like tournaments Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted February 18, 2007 Author Share Posted February 18, 2007 Yep DN is stuck so much money from tournament poker As have every other tournament pro, sw.Don't get me wrong everyone. I'm not saying that playing tournaments are -EV, I've already taken that back. I'm not saying that playing tournaments is for losers. I love to play them, but I would never do it as a living, no matter how good I was. Link to post Share on other sites
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