Tournament Field Depreciation Rate

[rgold79 0]

Should I concern myself with how fast the field is shrinking in a given tournament and adapt my play accordingly? In other words, say 67% of the field is eliminated in the first 4 levels (I'm seeing numbers more and more like this online). The blinds are still low, so there's plenty of time to play. Should I treat this differently than if after 4 levels only 10% of the field has been eliminated?I know Harrington breached this topic somewhat in his discussion on the relationship between M and Q, but I'm wondering whether people approach tournaments differently when the field is depreciating at a rapid rate as opposed to when people are being eliminated slowly.

[kkcountry 0]

Should I concern myself with how fast the field is shrinking in a given tournament and adapt my play accordingly? In other words, say 67% of the field is eliminated in the first 4 levels (I'm seeing numbers more and more like this online). The blinds are still low, so there's plenty of time to play. Should I treat this differently than if after 4 levels only 10% of the field has been eliminated?I know Harrington breached this topic somewhat in his discussion on the relationship between M and Q, but I'm wondering whether people approach tournaments differently when the field is depreciating at a rapid rate as opposed to when people are being eliminated slowly.

if people are dropping out like flies, and you're not on the bubble, you're going to have to build a stack quick if you want to go deeeeeeeeeeeeeeep. if everybody else is sticking around, treading water isn't the worst thing. if people are dropping out at the FT, there's nothing wrong with sitting back and moving up the pay ladder.

[Actuary 3]

Chip Equity calculations would say you need to accumulate chips faster when the field is depleting more rapidly.But if there are lots of donks, then I would say you'll have opprtunites to survive and dbl thru w/o major gambling, usually.Zach should have moved this by now.He is such a slacker.

[Zach6668 513]

Chip Equity calculations would say you need to accumulate chips faster when the field is depleting more rapidly.But if there are lots of donks, then I would say you'll have opprtunites to survive and dbl thru w/o major gambling, usually.Zach should have moved this by now.He is such a slacker.

Bah. Too busy trying to convince people not to post results.I actually didn't even think anything of this thread when I first read it. It's standard for what's been going in Gen Strat lately.I'm kinda unclear on exactly what should be here, lol.I'll move this to tourney to appease you though, sweetheart.

[TheCinciKid 0]

I actually don't think it really matters that much. I think your M is the most important thing. As long as you still have enough big blinds, you should have plenty of opportunity to find +EV spots to get your chips in. The only consideration I can think of is that you might have to be a little more willing to play for all your chips against a big stack if most of the players are big stacks and they start trying to bully you. But, if you have a high enough M, it really shouldn't matter.

[copernicus 0]

Chip Equity calculations would say you need to accumulate chips faster when the field is depleting more rapidly.

Id have to disagree on a technicality here, Actuary. Until blinds are large relative to stacks and youre in or at least near the money, ICM doesnt care how many of your opponents hold the same number of chips.Any impact the "depreciation rate" has on your chances is encompassed pretty well in Q. A fast rate drives Q up faster, but M is so much more important than Q in determining strategy it isnt even close. Q imo is a tie-breaker between two otherwise equal plays. I dont even look at other table's stacks and the number of players left until there are 3-4x the number of players that get paid left in the tourney. At the point the depreciation rate is tied closely to the number of low M players and might rarely impact a decision.

[rgold79 0]

Bah. Too busy trying to convince people not to post results.I actually didn't even think anything of this thread when I first read it. It's standard for what's been going in Gen Strat lately.I'm kinda unclear on exactly what should be here, lol.I'll move this to tourney to appease you though, sweetheart.

I wasn't sure whether this was an appropriate question to ask in Gen Strat or Tournaments - tournaments is mostly for posting hands I thought. Whatever. I'm sorry you thought nothing of my question though!

[Actuary 3]

Id have to disagree on a technicality here, Actuary. Until blinds are large relative to stacks and youre in or at least near the money, ICM doesnt care how many of your opponents hold the same number of chips.

so if you have 1000 chips and blinds a 10/20 and 300 other players have 10,000 chips each; you are in the same ICM position as if you had 1000 chips with 10/20 blinds and 3000 other players have 1000 chips as well?Assuming top 30 pay, lets say.You know my trust in the ICM is not very strong.You are such a math geek

[copernicus 0]

so if you have 1000 chips and blinds a 10/20 and 300 other players have 10,000 chips each; you are in the same ICM position as if you had 1000 chips with 10/20 blinds and 3000 other players have 1000 chips as well?Assuming top 30 pay, lets say.You know my trust in the ICM is not very strong.You are such a math geek

all of the above

[Zach6668 513]

I wasn't sure whether this was an appropriate question to ask in Gen Strat or Tournaments - tournaments is mostly for posting hands I thought. Whatever. I'm sorry you thought nothing of my question though!

I think you'll get better replies in tourney, as we've already seen. Also, I don't play tournies too much so I had no idea what to make of the question.