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So being sold out has something to do with doing well or not? Couldn't it have something to do with the amount each company is shipping? Maybe the price? Lots of factors.
Sony probably doesnt want to sell out, since they are dropping hunderds per system sold, in the meantime Nintendo is actually profiting from their system. Microsoft is taking a hit too, but not as bad as Sony and they have a much larger library and better online setup than PS3 or Wii.What does the number of units shipped have to do with anything, if you want to look at that more than twice as many Wii's have shipped as PS3's, guess which one I can walk to any store in town and get right now. Nintendo is shipping far more systems, and they are still harder to get than a PS3.Latest numbers I could find...x360_forum2.jpgwii_forum2.jpgps3_forum2.jpgXbox has a 2 to 1 lead on Nintendo and that gap is closing a lost faster than they are comfortable with. PS3 is a distant 3rd and they can't blame hardware shortages anymore, the systems are collecting dust on shelves everywhere.
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I didn't really pick and choose through there. And if I would've posted the entire year you'd have seen more that you would want to get.Go find me the list for the 360 and find MORE games you really want than you can find on the PS3.Here's more notables if I must...Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' WarNinja Gaiden SigmaTransformers: The GameJohn Woo's StrangleholdAssassins CreedBurnout 5Unreal Tournament 3TurokBlacksite: Area 51Heavenly SwordHalf-Life 2: Orange BoxGrand Theft Auto IVMetal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the PatriotsRatchet and Clank PS3Devil May Cry 4Mortal Kombat Next GenArmy of TwoSkateGuitar Hero PS3Mercenaries 2Getaway Killzone 2
You realise that EVERY list of PS3 games you post is 95% cross platform titles. There are only 3-4 exclusives in there and they aren't anything to get your panties in a bunch over. I love the Metal Gear Series but the games are usually only 12 hours long, never took me more than a day or two to beat them and I doubt thats going to change.Oh one other thing, HD-DVD will put Blu Ray in the grave, you know why??? Because the porn industry chose to go with HD-DVD, bye bye pooray. Never underestimate spank material.
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You realise that EVERY list of PS3 games you post is 95% cross platform titles. There are only 3-4 exclusives in there and they aren't anything to get your panties in a bunch over. I love the Metal Gear Series but the games are usually only 12 hours long, never took me more than a day or two to beat them and I doubt thats going to change.Oh one other thing, HD-DVD will put Blu Ray in the grave, you know why??? Because the porn industry chose to go with HD-DVD, bye bye pooray. Never underestimate spank material.
People rent porn, they don't buy it. IF THAT, mostly they get it on the internet.Major movie studios are going with bluray. And if you hadn't heard.... BluRay is winning that battle at the moment.
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People rent porn, they don't buy it. IF THAT, mostly they get it on the internet.Major movie studios are going with bluray. And if you hadn't heard.... BluRay is winning that battle at the moment.
You realise that it was just last novemeber that DVD players have outnumbered VHS players in homes? You really thingk Blu ray makes the PS3 a better gaming machine trying to push a format that even if it was sucessful wouldnt take over DVD players for roughly 10-15 years?And I dont know about you, I dont rent porn because I dont want to touch a disc that someone else was handling right after beating off or whatever they did.
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You realise that it was just last novemeber that DVD players have outnumbered VHS players in homes? You really thingk Blu ray makes the PS3 a better gaming machine trying to push a format that even if it was sucessful wouldnt take over DVD players for roughly 10-15 years?And I dont know about you, I dont rent porn because I dont want to touch a disc that someone else was handling right after beating off or whatever they did.
Just saying, not THAT many people actually buy porn, and it costs $30 bucks for a dvd, what would a hddvd cost? Just can't see that as the strongest argument.And it doesn't matter to me when it takes it over. I prefer the watching the movies in HD now that i've seen how good it looks, and I could care less when everyone else gets on board. But as it stands, BluRay has been outselling HDDVD 2 to 1 the past couple months.But why this harsh stance against the PS3 though? Ever since it came out you've been like this. Do you own one? You've been claiming that you really aren't that against it, but everytime you talk about it, all you do is bash it. Much like countless amounts of people I've seen do... who don't even have one. Just like I told Kuge.... Just wait and see how it turns out. Might take a year, might take a couple. But the PS3 will prove to be the better system.
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You realise that EVERY list of PS3 games you post is 95% cross platform titles. There are only 3-4 exclusives in there and they aren't anything to get your panties in a bunch over. I love the Metal Gear Series but the games are usually only 12 hours long, never took me more than a day or two to beat them and I doubt thats going to change.Oh one other thing, HD-DVD will put Blu Ray in the grave, you know why??? Because the porn industry chose to go with HD-DVD, bye bye pooray. Never underestimate spank material.
You can have your pornBlu-Ray has landed Disney, Sony, 20th Century Fox, and MGM as exclusive backers.Universal Studios is the only major movie studio that exclusively backs HD-DVD
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From what I understand, SSX Blur is going to be Wii-exclusive. The SSX series is pretty much the only "sports" video games I've ever played for extended amounts of time.

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From what I understand, SSX Blur is going to be Wii-exclusive. The SSX series is pretty much the only "sports" video games I've ever played for extended amounts of time.
you would be correct on the Wii exclusive, which is good and badI would have liked to see the graphical output that game would have on my PS3, however it does give me a must buy game for the Wii.
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But why this harsh stance against the PS3 though? Ever since it came out you've been like this. Do you own one? You've been claiming that you really aren't that against it, but everytime you talk about it, all you do is bash it. Much like countless amounts of people I've seen do... who don't even have one.
Because of retarded fanboyism I see from people like you who proclaim 'Power + graphics = best thing ever". If that simple logic would apply then the Xbox would have won last gen and the Neo Geo would have crushed the SNES and Genesis back in the late 80's early 90's. Does Tetris have fancy graphics? No, they look pretty simple yet it is the most successful game ever made. It got that way because of a good concept that was executed well. Simple, fun, on some level addicting. I've seen you constantly proclaim PS3 superiority, but I'm willing to bet you haven't touched a 360 or a Wii to even compare them other than what you saw on display at best buy.I'm a gamer, I have owned every system released in the US over the last 25 years at some point except the Virtual Boy (Nintendo's biggest mistake, but an awesome concept). I've managed a video game store, I've beta tested software for multiple companies, I've been playing video games since I could wipe my own ass I've stated at some point I will own a PS3, my nephew owns one and I have played on it a reasonable amount, but I sure as hell wouldn't fork over 500+ dollars for any of the stuff they have out right now. Resistance (the PS3 "killer app") is just another FPS, it has nothing on any of the last two years worth of FPS games released on PC. I'll take Half Life 2, Doom 3, the latest UT, F.E.A.R., etc... over Resistance any day. Gears of War on the 360 is a far superior game. Nintendo has a more successful must own franchise game already in Zelda. Sony is going to need 10 killer apps that are not available on any other system before it even becomes remotely worth the investment. Judging on current release information, thats going to be at least year and 1/2 from now at least, thats only if there exclusive titles are worth having. A large amount of the titles they did have as an exclusive jumped ship and crossed over to the 360 some time ago. By that time you want to guess how many the 360 will have, or the Wii? What I don't like about Sony is how they are trying to force the gaming industry to conform to them, they tried unsuccessfully to fully eliminate 2d games when the original PS came out. They actually wouldn't let Capcom publish a new version of Street Fighter on the system because it was 2d. Is Street Fighter a bad game, don't think so... but Sony management is retarded and they have continued to make stupid choices and comments over the last 11 years. The latest crap of trying to force there blu-ray tech on gamers is retarded, and it's one of the many reasons they are and will remain 3rd place this generation for a long time. By the time they even get close to second (if they do) it will be 360 they are chasing because Nintendo will surpass them by next Christmas. With over a year of titles and better online setup, the 360 is clearly the more logical choice over a PS3 right now and for the foreseeable future. Latest example of Sony putting foot in mouth - claiming the Wii is an impulse buy? Thats hilarious, as recently as a week ago I saw people lined up outside a Toy's R Us before it opened trying to get there hands on it. The system would need to be sitting on shelves like the PS3 is for it to be an impulse buy. Sony wishes that they could classify their system at a impulse buy.Here is another piece of Sony brilliance...
"With the DS, it's fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen," Harrison says. "But I fear that it won't have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick - so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that."
I'd love to here this Sony President idiot's explanation of why the DS is selling more than every Sony gaming product (PS, PS2, PS3, PSP) combined.Also worth nothing is that Sony is now working on controller thats a rip off of the Wii for there next console... guess when you get shown up, you just steal. I love how they bad mouth competitors and then try to emulate them, Sony is nothing but marketing hype right now, and you are there primary target.
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Jadaki-I have been a long time Playstation guy. I didn't like the Xbox, and I wasn't looking foreword to the 360. You make some excellent points though, and I have to agree. Sony has really dropped the ball here. I keep waiting for that "must buy" game, and it hasnt surfaced yet. I didn't get my PS2 till they came out with GTA. Now GTA will come out for both, so what is their plan?In all fairness, I havent played more than 5 minutes on any of the systems, but I have friends who own one or all of them. So far the best reviews are coming from the Wii owners. It's like Playstation thought " We are SONY, when we release the system they will buy it"!!! Which is fine, but how about some games?Edit- I played quite a bit of Call of Duty for the 360, and it was alot of fun.

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The PS3 will have 10 killer apps before the other 2 systems. So if 10 is your magic number, start saving your pennies.And just because i'm rational doesn't make me a fanboy, I have owned all kinds of systems myself. In fact, for a long time, I was a pretty staunch Nintendo guy. But it takes more than PS2 games with a new controller to win me over. As far as the 360 goes, Ive played that as well, and Yes, Gears is a great game. Never said it wasn't. But what else have they done in the full year head start they've had? Not nearly enough, and not nearly as much as what the PS3 is about to do in their first year. Just like I said before.... wait and see. I never said you HAVE to buy the system right now, and that it's the most playable system out right this second, in fact, I only have 2 games for it since launch. Resistance and Tiger Woods.... because I didn't really like the others. But that doesn't mean I can't see that they're going to put out a lot of good **** in the future. Anyone who can't see that has some serious blinders up. It's sad really. I have no alliance to Sony. Why would I? Why would you assume that I do? I never owned a PS1, I got a PS2 years after it came out. OOOH... I'm such a fanboy!!!

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I will never ever understand console wars...Really I won't.I was a Sony fanboy back in the day. Screw Nintedo and totally screw Microsoft. Well then something happened. I learned that video games is not about a system but more about the GAMES. I will buy a system when I am sure that there will be games I need to play. Let's look at releases coming up for each system.PS3North America02/22 flOw Q*bert02/26 Major League Baseball 2K702/27 Formula One Championship Edition03/01 Battlefield: Bad Company03/05 College Hoops 2K703/06 Def Jam: Icon MotorStorm NBA Street Homecourt03/13 F.E.A.R. The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion03/20 Armored Core 4 The Godfather: Don's Edition Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six Vegas Virtua Tennis 303/27 Enchanted Arms Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell Dou...04/03 MLB 07: The Show05/01 Project Offset (working title) Sega Rally RevoWhat in there is a MUST HAVE PS3 Exclusive? What there can you not buy on XBox 360?WiiNorth America02/27 SSX Blur03/13 Tiger Woods PGA Tour 0703/20 Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII Cooking Mama: Cook Off Driver: Parallel Lines Prince of Persia Rival Swords The Godfather: Blackhand Edition TMNT03/26 Medal of Honor: Vanguard03/27 Disney's Meet the Robinsons Kororinpa Marble Mania Wing Island04/01 DK Bongo Blast Heatseeker04/03 Bust-A-Move Bash!04/09 Super Paper Mario04/17 Bionicle Heroes Legend of the Dragon04/23 Mortal Kombat: Armageddon05/01 Surf's UpYou got Super Paper Mario and SSX Blur, two much anticipated EXCLUSIVE games. Cooking Mama has a pretty big following as well, not something I would be interested in but the Wii clearly has more Exclusive titles coming out and not many of the 360 games that PS3 will be adding to its collection.Now, the 36002/26 Major League Baseball 2K702/27 Bullet Witch Dance Dance Revolution Universe Samurai Warriors 2 Empires03/01 Alone in the Dark Battlefield: Bad Company03/06 Def Jam: Icon Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Advan...03/13 Call of Duty 3 (Gold Edition)03/20 Armored Core 4 Earth Defense Force 2017 TMNT UEFA Champions League 2006-2007 Virtua Tennis 303/27 Blazing Angels: Secret Missions Dance Dance Revolution Universe Disney's Meet the Robinsons Rayman Raving Rabbids04/03 Guitar Hero II04/10 Rapala TrophiesLooks pretty much like the PS3 lineup and look, there is a PS exclusive now being ported onto the XBox 360 (Guitar Hero 2). So if I had none of these consoles in my possession right now which would I get? Honestly, the Wii and the 360. Why? The games and price. I like the Wii's price and the games that are exclusive interest me. The Xbox because I can get exclusive games like Dad Rising, PGR, Lost Planet, and others, plus anything that comes out on PS3 for the most part and I save a couple hundred. This is not to say the PS3 is crap, but it is to say that Sony has done a good job of losing it's foothold on the video game market. I was totally against Microsoft before the Xbox came out and I can honestly say out of all my systems, the Xbox gets the most play becuase it has the most games that I want to play. When PS3 shows up with a MUST-HAVE title or 5 then I will think about it. Right now I don't see these 10 games you are talking about.And I have a Wii and I love it. I don't even have any games except for Sports and Play and between the wife and I it gets about 2hrs a play a day on it since the day we bought it. Their tech demo's interest me more than anything esle.

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The PS3 will have 10 killer apps before the other 2 systems. So if 10 is your magic number, start saving your pennies.And just because i'm rational doesn't make me a fanboy, I have owned all kinds of systems myself. In fact, for a long time, I was a pretty staunch Nintendo guy. But it takes more than PS2 games with a new controller to win me over. As far as the 360 goes, Ive played that as well, and Yes, Gears is a great game. Never said it wasn't. But what else have they done in the full year head start they've had? Not nearly enough, and not nearly as much as what the PS3 is about to do in their first year. Just like I said before.... wait and see. I never said you HAVE to buy the system right now, and that it's the most playable system out right this second, in fact, I only have 2 games for it since launch. Resistance and Tiger Woods.... because I didn't really like the others. But that doesn't mean I can't see that they're going to put out a lot of good **** in the future. Anyone who can't see that has some serious blinders up. It's sad really. I have no alliance to Sony. Why would I? Why would you assume that I do? I never owned a PS1, I got a PS2 years after it came out. OOOH... I'm such a fanboy!!!
Your a fanboy because you completely blind to the competition and obvious facts. Sony IS LOSING 3rd party support, in some cases they are losing the exclusivity of titles (Assassins Creed & GTA come to mind), in some cases companies are changing platforms all together because they want to sell as much software as possible and with Sony's price point, they are going to have a lot of problems passing anyone.If you so rational, tell me how doesn't 360 already have 10 killer titles which wont be appearing on a PS3. Keep making stuff up and buying into Sony's marketing hype while 3rd party companies keep jumping ship to the 360 and Nintendo. The facts are there, your ignoring them.You want 10 killer apps for the 360, here you go... Gears of WarPerfect Dark ZeroDead or Alive 4Kameo: Elements of PowerTable Tennis (laugh if you want, its made by Rockstar Games and is a blast)Dead RisingViva PinataSaints RowCrackDownLOTR: Battle for Middle Earth 2Those are not even the highest rated games on the system, I just grabbed some from differing genre's to show you the wide variety of software available. Last I checked, none of those were slated to come out on PS3 also.
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You only went over the next 2 months. Look at the lists I put up instead.And look at how Oblivion on PS3 is gonna look and play better than the other version. Who's to say that isn't going to continue to happen? The more time the developers get with the new hardware, the more distance you're going to start to see. It's real easy to compare a system a year in to one that just came out... real easy. But pretty ignorant.

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You want 10 killer apps for the 360, here you go... Gears of WarPerfect Dark ZeroDead or Alive 4Kameo: Elements of Power Table Tennis (laugh if you want, its made by Rockstar Games and is a blast)Dead RisingViva PinataSaints RowCrackDownLOTR: Battle for Middle Earth 2
PD: Zero.... No.Viva Pinata... New and interesting, but not a killer app by any means.And while I don't know the ins and outs of all of the games there, I wouldn't call the majority of those killer apps. They aren't system sellers except for GOW and maybe Dead Rising. Maybe our defenition is different, but most of those are pretty run of the mill games in terms of what's possible right now. Not to say they aren't good games, but it's not hard to have a few good games after a year. You're expecting the PS3 to come out of the gate and match up right away. It's not even remotely possible. Have a little patience. If you're such a "gamer", then don't make such harsh judgements when you could end up being wrong in the end. The 360 is a good system, and will continue to improve as well, but I'm just saying that I think the ceiling for the PS3 is gonna be quite a bit higher.And the only reason Sony is losing exclusives is because Microsoft has infinitely deep pockets and Sony doesn't feel the need to fight with them on that front. I don't see why everyone cares so much about exclusives anyway. As long as I can play the game, I don't really care who else gets it. I don't get the whole console war thing myself.... But I just find it extremely unfair that people are bashing the PS3 when the system just came out. Though it's to be expected I guess if you look at the history of the last 2 systems. But all those bashers eventually came around.
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