goose 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 had 21k hand before the break now i'm out. I shouldn't have counted on people to fold tptk vs anything at allfyp Link to post Share on other sites
Dapper Dan G 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Dapper Dan G got outdrawn and down to 2k after 10 minutes. Fought back to 18k, GLGLGLGLGL allty robbie. 18200 after break. gl guys. Link to post Share on other sites
gatortom64 1 Posted February 11, 2007 Author Share Posted February 11, 2007 Analyze please?PokerStars Game #8393193711: Tournament #41498836, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (200/400) - 2007/02/11 - 17:39:37 (ET)Table '41498836 340' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: pschni (16800 in chips) Seat 2: HoTShoT2K3 (27475 in chips) Seat 3: Buko (27375 in chips) Seat 4: gatortom64 (13325 in chips) Seat 5: Actionable (11025 in chips) Seat 6: warwick600 (1500 in chips) Seat 7: madsamot (23445 in chips) Seat 8: Doc Deal 103 (19075 in chips) Seat 9: gps13579 (10475 in chips) madsamot: posts small blind 200Doc Deal 103: posts big blind 400*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to gatortom64 [Ks Kc]gps13579: folds pschni: raises 800 to 1200HoTShoT2K3: folds Buko: folds gatortom64: raises 1200 to 2400Actionable: folds warwick600: folds madsamot: folds Doc Deal 103: folds pschni: calls 1200*** FLOP *** [5c 5h 7d]pschni: bets 1600gatortom64: raises 4000 to 5600pschni: calls 4000*** TURN *** [5c 5h 7d] [Jc]pschni: checks gatortom64: bets 5325 and is all-inpschni: calls 5325*** RIVER *** [5c 5h 7d Jc] [As]*** SHOW DOWN ***pschni: shows [6d 5d] (three of a kind, Fives)gatortom64: shows [Ks Kc] (two pair, Kings and Fives)pschni collected 27250 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 27250 | Rake 0 Board [5c 5h 7d Jc As]Seat 1: pschni showed [6d 5d] and won (27250) with three of a kind, FivesSeat 2: HoTShoT2K3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Buko folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: gatortom64 showed [Ks Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and FivesSeat 5: Actionable folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: warwick600 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: madsamot (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: Doc Deal 103 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: gps13579 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Make it like 3500 preflop, besides that you were destined to bust that flop. Also, I again got asked if I was Michael Mizrachi and when I said no, I was still congratulated for my 200r FT appearance last week Link to post Share on other sites
alanstats 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Analyze please?PokerStars Game #8393193711: Tournament #41498836, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (200/400) - 2007/02/11 - 17:39:37 (ET)Table '41498836 340' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: pschni (16800 in chips) Seat 2: HoTShoT2K3 (27475 in chips) Seat 3: Buko (27375 in chips) Seat 4: gatortom64 (13325 in chips) Seat 5: Actionable (11025 in chips) Seat 6: warwick600 (1500 in chips) Seat 7: madsamot (23445 in chips) Seat 8: Doc Deal 103 (19075 in chips) Seat 9: gps13579 (10475 in chips) madsamot: posts small blind 200Doc Deal 103: posts big blind 400*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to gatortom64 [Ks Kc]gps13579: folds pschni: raises 800 to 1200HoTShoT2K3: folds Buko: folds gatortom64: raises 1200 to 2400Actionable: folds warwick600: folds madsamot: folds Doc Deal 103: folds pschni: calls 1200*** FLOP *** [5c 5h 7d]pschni: bets 1600gatortom64: raises 4000 to 5600pschni: calls 4000*** TURN *** [5c 5h 7d] [Jc]pschni: checks gatortom64: bets 5325 and is all-inpschni: calls 5325*** RIVER *** [5c 5h 7d Jc] [As]*** SHOW DOWN ***pschni: shows [6d 5d] (three of a kind, Fives)gatortom64: shows [Ks Kc] (two pair, Kings and Fives)pschni collected 27250 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 27250 | Rake 0 Board [5c 5h 7d Jc As]Seat 1: pschni showed [6d 5d] and won (27250) with three of a kind, FivesSeat 2: HoTShoT2K3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Buko folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: gatortom64 showed [Ks Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and FivesSeat 5: Actionable folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: warwick600 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: madsamot (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: Doc Deal 103 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: gps13579 folded before Flop (didn't bet)The smooth call on the flop screams that he has a hand like he did. But you were then left with only 5k and in a spot you basically couldn't escape, or at least I couldn't. I probably don't shove the turn, and then I check call the river, which would have led to the same result anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
pokerplayer24 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 So bored, at 11.5k havent been in a hand thats gone past the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 i'd probably make it around 3800-4000 preflop. no point in getting cute with a raise, he's getting too good of odds to just fold. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Analyze please?PokerStars Game #8393193711: Tournament #41498836, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (200/400) - 2007/02/11 - 17:39:37 (ET)Table '41498836 340' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: pschni (16800 in chips) Seat 2: HoTShoT2K3 (27475 in chips) Seat 3: Buko (27375 in chips) Seat 4: gatortom64 (13325 in chips) Seat 5: Actionable (11025 in chips) Seat 6: warwick600 (1500 in chips) Seat 7: madsamot (23445 in chips) Seat 8: Doc Deal 103 (19075 in chips) Seat 9: gps13579 (10475 in chips) madsamot: posts small blind 200Doc Deal 103: posts big blind 400*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to gatortom64 [Ks Kc]gps13579: folds pschni: raises 800 to 1200HoTShoT2K3: folds Buko: folds gatortom64: raises 1200 to 2400Actionable: folds warwick600: folds madsamot: folds Doc Deal 103: folds pschni: calls 1200*** FLOP *** [5c 5h 7d]pschni: bets 1600gatortom64: raises 4000 to 5600pschni: calls 4000*** TURN *** [5c 5h 7d] [Jc]pschni: checks gatortom64: bets 5325 and is all-inpschni: calls 5325*** RIVER *** [5c 5h 7d Jc] [As]*** SHOW DOWN ***pschni: shows [6d 5d] (three of a kind, Fives)gatortom64: shows [Ks Kc] (two pair, Kings and Fives)pschni collected 27250 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 27250 | Rake 0 Board [5c 5h 7d Jc As]Seat 1: pschni showed [6d 5d] and won (27250) with three of a kind, FivesSeat 2: HoTShoT2K3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Buko folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: gatortom64 showed [Ks Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and FivesSeat 5: Actionable folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: warwick600 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: madsamot (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: Doc Deal 103 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: gps13579 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Raise more preflop. You priced him in with any 2. Should have made it in the 3200-3600 range. Smaller reraise pre, A-prices him in and even bigger, B- makes it almost impossible to put him on a hand. Played how it was, hard to get away from. Link to post Share on other sites
gatortom64 1 Posted February 11, 2007 Author Share Posted February 11, 2007 Thanks all. Oh well. Maybe next week. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Analyze please?PokerStars Game #8393193711: Tournament #41498836, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (200/400) - 2007/02/11 - 17:39:37 (ET)Table '41498836 340' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: pschni (16800 in chips) Seat 2: HoTShoT2K3 (27475 in chips) Seat 3: Buko (27375 in chips) Seat 4: gatortom64 (13325 in chips) Seat 5: Actionable (11025 in chips) Seat 6: warwick600 (1500 in chips) Seat 7: madsamot (23445 in chips) Seat 8: Doc Deal 103 (19075 in chips) Seat 9: gps13579 (10475 in chips) madsamot: posts small blind 200Doc Deal 103: posts big blind 400*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to gatortom64 [Ks Kc]gps13579: folds pschni: raises 800 to 1200HoTShoT2K3: folds Buko: folds gatortom64: raises 1200 to 2400Actionable: folds warwick600: folds madsamot: folds Doc Deal 103: folds pschni: calls 1200*** FLOP *** [5c 5h 7d]pschni: bets 1600gatortom64: raises 4000 to 5600pschni: calls 4000*** TURN *** [5c 5h 7d] [Jc]pschni: checks gatortom64: bets 5325 and is all-inpschni: calls 5325*** RIVER *** [5c 5h 7d Jc] [As]*** SHOW DOWN ***pschni: shows [6d 5d] (three of a kind, Fives)gatortom64: shows [Ks Kc] (two pair, Kings and Fives)pschni collected 27250 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 27250 | Rake 0 Board [5c 5h 7d Jc As]Seat 1: pschni showed [6d 5d] and won (27250) with three of a kind, FivesSeat 2: HoTShoT2K3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Buko folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: gatortom64 showed [Ks Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and FivesSeat 5: Actionable folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: warwick600 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: madsamot (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: Doc Deal 103 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: gps13579 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Raise more preflop.Edit: I type slow. Link to post Share on other sites
alanstats 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Yea, I missed preflop. And I don't like preflop at all. I make that 3500ish to go everytime and twice on sunday. Link to post Share on other sites
eroc824 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Analyze please?PokerStars Game #8393193711: Tournament #41498836, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (200/400) - 2007/02/11 - 17:39:37 (ET)Table '41498836 340' 9-max Seat #6 is the buttonSeat 1: pschni (16800 in chips) Seat 2: HoTShoT2K3 (27475 in chips) Seat 3: Buko (27375 in chips) Seat 4: gatortom64 (13325 in chips) Seat 5: Actionable (11025 in chips) Seat 6: warwick600 (1500 in chips) Seat 7: madsamot (23445 in chips) Seat 8: Doc Deal 103 (19075 in chips) Seat 9: gps13579 (10475 in chips) madsamot: posts small blind 200Doc Deal 103: posts big blind 400*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to gatortom64 [Ks Kc]gps13579: folds pschni: raises 800 to 1200HoTShoT2K3: folds Buko: folds gatortom64: raises 1200 to 2400Actionable: folds warwick600: folds madsamot: folds Doc Deal 103: folds pschni: calls 1200*** FLOP *** [5c 5h 7d]pschni: bets 1600gatortom64: raises 4000 to 5600pschni: calls 4000*** TURN *** [5c 5h 7d] [Jc]pschni: checks gatortom64: bets 5325 and is all-inpschni: calls 5325*** RIVER *** [5c 5h 7d Jc] [As]*** SHOW DOWN ***pschni: shows [6d 5d] (three of a kind, Fives)gatortom64: shows [Ks Kc] (two pair, Kings and Fives)pschni collected 27250 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 27250 | Rake 0 Board [5c 5h 7d Jc As]Seat 1: pschni showed [6d 5d] and won (27250) with three of a kind, FivesSeat 2: HoTShoT2K3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: Buko folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 4: gatortom64 showed [Ks Kc] and lost with two pair, Kings and FivesSeat 5: Actionable folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: warwick600 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 7: madsamot (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 8: Doc Deal 103 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 9: gps13579 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Don't ever minraise? I personally hate the play for this very reason Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Don't ever minraise? I personally hate the play for this very reasonIt wasn't a min-raise but still played pretty much the same. Link to post Share on other sites
goose 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 8K.... SB with KQ, hyper-aggressive button with a range of A5s+ makes it 1200, I make it 4K, he calls.... flop comes Q34, I push, he has AQ gg. Link to post Share on other sites
GrinderMJ 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 WHATTHE****Dealt to GrinderMJ [Tc Th]sebdevil: folds Hoogah: folds shmule1: raises 1825 to 2225 and is all-inGrinderMJ: calls 2225Mikem07: folds spacegravy: folds marcusg77: calls 2225mylo: folds nekpinder: folds *** FLOP *** [9h 2c 5d]GrinderMJ: bets 9200marcusg77: calls 4545 and is all-in*** TURN *** [9h 2c 5d] [5s]*** RIVER *** [9h 2c 5d 5s] [Qd]*** SHOW DOWN ***GrinderMJ: shows [Tc Th] (two pair, Tens and Fives)marcusg77: shows [Ts Qh] (two pair, Queens and Fives)marcusg77 collected 9090 from side potshmule1: shows [Ad Qc] (two pair, Queens and Fives - Ace kicker)shmule1 collected 7275 from main pot Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 WHATTHE****Dealt to GrinderMJ [Tc Th]sebdevil: folds Hoogah: folds shmule1: raises 1825 to 2225 and is all-inGrinderMJ: calls 2225Mikem07: folds spacegravy: folds marcusg77: calls 2225mylo: folds nekpinder: folds *** FLOP *** [9h 2c 5d]GrinderMJ: bets 9200marcusg77: calls 4545 and is all-in*** TURN *** [9h 2c 5d] [5s]*** RIVER *** [9h 2c 5d 5s] [Qd]*** SHOW DOWN ***GrinderMJ: shows [Tc Th] (two pair, Tens and Fives)marcusg77: shows [Ts Qh] (two pair, Queens and Fives)marcusg77 collected 9090 from side potshmule1: shows [Ad Qc] (two pair, Queens and Fives - Ace kicker)shmule1 collected 7275 from main potjl;kadjkl;adjl;fssd;dsldsjsj.So ****ed. Link to post Share on other sites
eroc824 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 It wasn't a min-raise but still played pretty much the same.true not a minraise but 1200 to 2400 is not enough imo...56 suited is gonna call almost all the time there(i know we want them to call, but i dont like giving it to them that cheap) Link to post Share on other sites
becks911 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to becks911 [Kd Qd]arkia05: folds youngluck: folds JaspudUF: raises 800 to 1200AABenjaminAA: folds trashman61: folds RichMonE44: folds othon111: folds narvikpoker: folds becks911: calls 800*** FLOP *** [6s Tc Jc]becks911: checks JaspudUF: checks *** TURN *** [6s Tc Jc] [Ah]becks911: checks JaspudUF: bets 1200becks911: raises 3200 to 4400JaspudUF: raises 5600 to 10000becks911: calls 4037 and is all-in*** RIVER *** [6s Tc Jc Ah] [9c]*** SHOW DOWN ***becks911: shows [Kd Qd] (a straight, Ten to Ace)JaspudUF: shows [Ks Ad] (a pair of Aces)becks911 collected 19474 from potliking the turnnn Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 true not a minraise but 1200 to 2400 is not enough imo...56 suited is gonna call almost all the time there(i know we want them to call, but i dont like giving it to them that cheap)This is true. See my previous post. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 WHATTHE****Dealt to GrinderMJ [Tc Th]sebdevil: folds Hoogah: folds shmule1: raises 1825 to 2225 and is all-inGrinderMJ: calls 2225Mikem07: folds spacegravy: folds marcusg77: calls 2225mylo: folds nekpinder: folds *** FLOP *** [9h 2c 5d]GrinderMJ: bets 9200marcusg77: calls 4545 and is all-in*** TURN *** [9h 2c 5d] [5s]*** RIVER *** [9h 2c 5d 5s] [Qd]*** SHOW DOWN ***GrinderMJ: shows [Tc Th] (two pair, Tens and Fives)marcusg77: shows [Ts Qh] (two pair, Queens and Fives)marcusg77 collected 9090 from side potshmule1: shows [Ad Qc] (two pair, Queens and Fives - Ace kicker)shmule1 collected 7275 from main potHe was looking for that runner runner straight. Either that or he's got a deal with Lee. Link to post Share on other sites
alanstats 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 true not a minraise but 1200 to 2400 is not enough imo...56 suited is gonna call almost all the time there(i know we want them to call, but i dont like giving it to them that cheap)Nah we don't ever want them to call when they do have the right price. The thing is, if you bet that to 3600, most sunday mill players will still feel priced in, and that is when we want them to call. The minbet defines our hand as QQ+ and gives him a great price to hit the sort of hand that will break us. Link to post Share on other sites
RDog 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Nah we don't ever want them to call when they do have the right price. The thing is, if you bet that to 3600, most sunday mill players will still feel priced in, and that is when we want them to call. The minbet defines our hand as QQ+ and gives him a great price to hit the sort of hand that will break us.It's all about getting the other player to make mistakes. Giving them the proper odds to call is a mistake. I think 3600 gets even a Mill Donk to fold and even if he calls at least it was a mistake on his part. Link to post Share on other sites
becks911 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 *** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to becks911 [Kc Kd]narvikpoker: raises 600 to 1200becks911: raises 2700 to 3900arkia05: folds ItiltUNOW: folds JaspudUF: folds AABenjaminAA: folds trashman61: raises 3500 to 7400 and is all-inRichMonE44: folds othon111: folds narvikpoker: folds becks911: calls 3500*** FLOP *** [Ks 6h Td]becks911 said, "OBV"*** TURN *** [Ks 6h Td] [5d]*** RIVER *** [Ks 6h Td 5d] [As]*** SHOW DOWN ***becks911: shows [Kc Kd] (three of a kind, Kings)trashman61: shows [Ac Ad] (three of a kind, Aces)becks911 said, "uergfoergnoie3nrgoieqnrgoerog]"trashman61 collected 16900 from pot*** SUMMARY ***Total pot 16900 | Rake 0 Board [Ks 6h Td 5d As]Seat 1: JaspudUF folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 2: AABenjaminAA folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 3: trashman61 (button) showed [Ac Ad] and won (16900) with three of a kind, AcesSeat 4: RichMonE44 (small blind) folded before FlopSeat 5: othon111 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 6: narvikpoker folded before FlopSeat 7: becks911 showed [Kc Kd] and lost with three of a kind, KingsSeat 8: arkia05 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 9: ItiltUNOW folded before Flop (didn't bet) Link to post Share on other sites
Wandigo 1 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 does anyone else fold here getting over 6:1? if i fold I have 10.4k. If I call and lose, down to probably 5.5k or so.PokerStars Game #8393532264: Tournament #41498836, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (300/600) - 2007/02/11 - 17:58:56 (ET)Table '41498836 472' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: kfactorxxx (39950 in chips) Seat 2: Rickking (6625 in chips) Seat 3: Secant (35240 in chips) Seat 4: DR2122 (11725 in chips) Seat 5: bhp2301 (17600 in chips) Seat 6: wandigo (17600 in chips) Seat 7: xTheCreamx (11070 in chips) Seat 8: jggt21 (7790 in chips) Seat 9: hendo17 (11275 in chips) wandigo: posts small blind 300xTheCreamx: posts big blind 600*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to wandigo [Qs Ac]jggt21: folds hendo17: folds kfactorxxx: folds Rickking: folds Secant: folds DR2122: raises 1200 to 1800bhp2301: folds wandigo: raises 5400 to 7200xTheCreamx: raises 3870 to 11070 and is all-inDR2122: raises 655 to 11725 and is all-inwandigo: calls 4525*** FLOP *** [Ah 7d 8s]wandigo said, "meh"*** TURN *** [Ah 7d 8s] [9h]*** RIVER *** [Ah 7d 8s 9h] [8d]*** SHOW DOWN ***wandigo: shows [Qs Ac] (two pair, Aces and Eights)DR2122: shows [Qd Qc] (two pair, Queens and Eights)wandigo collected 1310 from side potxTheCreamx: shows [As Kh] (two pair, Aces and Eights - King kicker)xTheCreamx collected 33210 from main pot Link to post Share on other sites
Highlow16 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Lee watkinson made a min reraise against me in a tournament, he had KK and I doubled through him. Kindof a cool hand actually I had 77 flop was 443 and he checked the flop. I knew he had AA or KK when he did this, so when 7 came on the turn i bet pot and stacked him. Moral of the story is dont min raise Link to post Share on other sites
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