Did I Play Kqo Correct?

[VernonME 0]

First stage of a $10 sng got big. On the button with KQo, did I play this correct?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)MP2 (t1550)MP3 (t1480)CO (t1510)Hero (t1800)SB (t1480)BB (t1500)UTG (t1500)UTG+1 (t1200)MP1 (t1480)Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, K. UTG calls t20, 1 fold, MP1 calls t20, MP2 calls t20, 1 fold, CO raises to t75, Hero calls t75, SB calls t65, 1 fold, UTG calls t55, MP1 calls t55, MP2 calls t55.Flop: (t470) T, J, 3(6 players)SB checks, UTG checks, MP1 bets t300, MP2 folds, CO calls t300, Hero calls t300, SB folds, UTG folds.Turn: (t1370) 7(3 players)MP1 bets t1105 (All-In), CO folds, Hero calls t1105.River: (t3580) 8(2 players, 1 all-in)Final Pot: t3580

[David_Nicoson 1]

I think we're better off raising on the flop. The turn card isn't especially good for us and we're still stacking off. It's better to put the pressure on the other guy to make a tough call.Direct your future tournament questions to the tournament section. I realize these aren't orthogonal categories. That's the convention, though.

[fitsnstarts 0]

I think we're better off raising on the flop. The turn card isn't especially good for us and we're still stacking off. It's better to put the pressure on the other guy to make a tough call.Direct your future tournament questions to the tournament section. I realize these aren't orthogonal categories. That's the convention, though.

This is my first time responding to a strat question, but this is how I feel about this hand. First, with a couple of callers, then a raise in to you, I would have folded this hand pre-flop. Early in a SNG I try to play really tight, really aggressive - nuts or nothing....almost. 30% of the field is going to cash. This table appears to already be shaping up to play loose. Let them eat each other alive, pick your spots, coast until half the players are gone before getting too creative.Next, With so many post-flop players, I'm not chasing a straight or a flush (especially without the A) - especially, again, at such an early stage in the tourney. When the bet went to t300 after the flop - I'm gone.And, last, I'm definitely not calling all-in - with nothing. nothing at all.In fact, I'm beginning to wonder if this post is some sort of elaborate joke. I don't want to be rude, but.... what?

[VernonME 0]

haha not a joke, well the way i thought about it was that my read on the guy was that he had a pair of jacks and nothing more, which was correct, so i felt i had many outs and that it was acceptable for me to take the risk of hitting a flush, open ender, or 2 over cards

[fitsnstarts 0]

haha not a joke, well the way i thought about it was that my read on the guy was that he had a pair of jacks and nothing more, which was correct, so i felt i had many outs and that it was acceptable for me to take the risk of hitting a flush, open ender, or 2 over cards

Ok, like I said, wasn't intending to be rude. I guess I see how you could make each of the plays that you did, but it seems like your looking at the hand from the wrong direction. Trying to put your opponent on a hand you can beat instead of a hand they might bet this way. Also, like I said - it's just too early in this SNG to try to draw out on an opponent. Unless, of course, you are slumming it in the $10 SNG and just want to get back to your regular $100 / $200 ring game. In that case, don't play so far below the capability of your bankroll - it just messes up all the strat for us poor folk

[Naismith 0]

haha not a joke, well the way i thought about it was that my read on the guy was that he had a pair of jacks and nothing more, which was correct, so i felt i had many outs and that it was acceptable for me to take the risk of hitting a flush, open ender, or 2 over cards

This is so wrong, though.Okay, he called a raise with a jack. Did he have a second card? I assume he did. Let's look at the most likely hands that call a raise with a jack in their hand:AJ, KJ, QJ, JJ, JTSo which of these hands are your overs good against? The only one decent for you is the AJ and now 25 percent of the time, that kills your flush outs as well. Unless he had AhJh, in which case you're drawing dead.

[Acid_Knight 2]

Umm, first reactions:Preflop - fine, if you have good postflop skills and can fold the hand when you need to.Flop - Yeah, you flopped an open ender, but the odds are not that friendly & there's a flush draw, possibly killing 2 of your outs and it's also a good possibility that other players in the pot are holding an A, further reducing your outs.Turn - Automatic fold. You have no odds to call. You're not drawing to the nuts. You could be drawing dead & YOU HAVE A TON OF CHIPS LEFT.Easiest fold ever on the turn. Before that, nothing was terribly wrong but I'd like to see you fold on the flop.

[Acid_Knight 2]

haha not a joke, well the way i thought about it was that my read on the guy was that he had a pair of jacks and nothing more, which was correct, so i felt i had many outs and that it was acceptable for me to take the risk of hitting a flush, open ender, or 2 over cards

It's early in the SNG, so I'm gonna go ahead and assume that you don't have a lot of reads on people yet. The pot is raised and there are 6 people in a pot that has 2 broadway cards and a flush draw. Still, this player leads into everyone and is called by 2 people and is out of position to both of them. The turn card completes the flush draw and the 89 straight draw and he pushes. He must have somethingYou put him on one pair and nothing else? Care to explain how you come about that decision?

[VernonME 0]

during the hand, i put myself in his position to see what he held:he at first limped into the pot, saw the raises, and decided to call the raise. here, i believe he had suited connectors / a drawing hand, in hopes to get lucky and win a big multi player pot, if he were to have AJ of hearts or JJ, he would have raised preflopon the flop, i felt his bet was trying to push ppl away because he felt his jacks were best but didn't want to see anyone catch their draw or over cardon the turn, i thought he kinda blew up out of fear that someone did complete their flush and forced himself to go all inoverall, for me, it was more of a gut instinct or mabye just stupidity, that i kept telling and believing myself that he had only jacksi ran the hand through ftp's odd calc, and i seemed that i had a 75% preflop, 43% on the flop, and 40% on the turnbtw, if i forgot to post, villain had QJoany other comments?

[dms26 3]

I really don't see the need to play this hand so early in a SNG, I'm not calling a raise with KQo. My style is to try to see cheap flops early, flop a set or a big hand and try to bust someone overplaying their hand. You have plenty of chips for the blinds, you don't need to play that big of a pot with a weak draw.

[Naismith 0]

during the hand, i put myself in his position to see what he held:he at first limped into the pot, saw the raises, and decided to call the raise. here, i believe he had suited connectors / a drawing hand, in hopes to get lucky and win a big multi player pot, if he were to have AJ of hearts or JJ, he would have raised preflopon the flop, i felt his bet was trying to push ppl away because he felt his jacks were best but didn't want to see anyone catch their draw or over cardon the turn, i thought he kinda blew up out of fear that someone did complete their flush and forced himself to go all inoverall, for me, it was more of a gut instinct or mabye just stupidity, that i kept telling and believing myself that he had only jacksi ran the hand through ftp's odd calc, and i seemed that i had a 75% preflop, 43% on the flop, and 40% on the turnbtw, if i forgot to post, villain had QJoany other comments?

This is what I was trying to tell you. If you thought he had connectors, your overs weren't good.

[David_Nicoson 1]

i ran the hand through ftp's odd calc, and i seemed that i had a 75% preflop, 43% on the flop, and 40% on the turnbtw, if i forgot to post, villain had QJoany other comments?

This villain is a donkey.

[Acid_Knight 2]

during the hand, i put myself in his position to see what he held:he at first limped into the pot, saw the raises, and decided to call the raise. here, i believe he had suited connectors / a drawing hand, in hopes to get lucky and win a big multi player pot, if he were to have AJ of hearts or JJ, he would have raised preflopon the flop, i felt his bet was trying to push ppl away because he felt his jacks were best but didn't want to see anyone catch their draw or over cardon the turn, i thought he kinda blew up out of fear that someone did complete their flush and forced himself to go all inoverall, for me, it was more of a gut instinct or mabye just stupidity, that i kept telling and believing myself that he had only jacksi ran the hand through ftp's odd calc, and i seemed that i had a 75% preflop, 43% on the flop, and 40% on the turnbtw, if i forgot to post, villain had QJoany other comments?

You can't run percentages in a multiway pot as if you're heads up. There were multiple players in the pot who saw the flop and 3 who saw the turn. It's important to consider how your hand stacks up against the field, not the lone opponent who is betting.

[Sea Wasp 0]

Fold preflop. Early SNG play calls for ultra tight play. Maintain your stack until you get 5 or 6 handed and then open up. As played calling the turn is really really bad.

[mtdesmoines 3]

haha not a joke, well the way i thought about it was that my read on the guy was that he had a pair of jacks and nothing more, which was correct, so i felt i had many outs and that it was acceptable for me to take the risk of hitting a flush, open ender, or 2 over cards

This is fine, so long as you're getting it all in against me.

[Altruist 0]

I play a lot of SnG and agree with everything said here. It's an easy pre-flop fold because 1) Donks love to limp with dry Aces, reducing your broadway draw; 2) You're not closing the action, 5 active players behind you and they love to limp with premium hands and then push when dead money hits the pot; 3) There's more advantage to playing like a rock in the first few levels -> Your Larceny License is in full force when the blinds are worth stealing. I watch that flop come and go and just laugh at the lil' donkey as I set him up for later...My $0.02