Money022 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 This is my first hand of the night. I don't recognize either of the two players who are in on the flop so I have no reads. What's my line here?PokerStars Game #8361583982: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/02/09 - 20:51:47 (ET)Table 'Bodea' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: cat923 ($40.30 in chips) Seat 2: Money022 ($25 in chips) Seat 3: shortseller6 ($3.20 in chips) Seat 4: devotee ($16.85 in chips) Seat 5: money path ($4.95 in chips) Seat 6: PairONines ($24.45 in chips) Seat 7: pixels2232 ($32.95 in chips) Seat 8: Lost Metal ($4.75 in chips) Seat 9: Cypher19 ($39.65 in chips) PairONines: posts small blind $0.10pixels2232: posts big blind $0.25Money022: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Money022 [As Ks]Lost Metal: folds Cypher19: folds cat923: raises $1 to $1.25Money022: calls $1shortseller6: folds devotee: folds money path: folds PairONines: folds pixels2232: calls $1*** FLOP *** [Ad 5h 2s]pixels2232: checks cat923: bets $2.50Money022: ??? Link to post Share on other sites
simo_8ball 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 I prefer a reraise to ~$3.5 preflop.As played, I think I like smooth calling and raising the turn. You are more likely to get paid by AQ/AJ that way and you stand to make more from KK/QQ.(I played a hand almost exactly the same tonight with aces up on the flop. The turn was a queen and I stacked off against his QQ. /shrug) Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 I prefer a reraise to ~$3.5 preflop.As played, I think I like smooth calling and raising the turn. You are more likely to get paid by AQ/AJ that way and you stand to make more from KK/QQ.(I played a hand almost exactly the same tonight with aces up on the flop. The turn was a queen and I stacked off against his QQ. /shrug)Maybe it's weak by me, but I'm not big on reraising in MP with AKs, especially when I'm new to the table and have no read on my opponents. I thought about a smooth call, but I also thought about making a big raise and ending it right away since I wasn't heads up. Link to post Share on other sites
Devilkin 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Keep in mind this is an EP raise - gotta believe without any reads he has a good hand here. Raise to isolate if you like, but AKs is a good enough hand multiway that I don't mind one or two additional callers.You hit the flop nicely, and he bets $2.50 into a $3.75 pot. Standard continuation bet - pop it by $6 more and finish the hand here.Keep in mind you also have the backdoor nut flush draw if you are called. Link to post Share on other sites
Sea Wasp 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 In a short handed game i 3bet here 100% of the time with AK however in a full ring game just calling is quite acceptable with position.Flat call flop and raise turn as long as a TJQ doesn't fall. Raising flop is leaving alot of value at the table by tipping villian off about our holding too early. Even calling a turn bet also is fine, you may not need to raise at all in the hand. If villian checks turn i would check behind looking to gain a value bet on the river. Link to post Share on other sites
Money022 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Author Share Posted February 10, 2007 I decided without knowing anything about my opponents, I would play the hand a bit faster and try to end it or get a loose call.PokerStars Game #8361583982: Hold'em No Limit ($0.10/$0.25) - 2007/02/09 - 20:51:47 (ET)Table 'Bodea' 9-max Seat #5 is the buttonSeat 1: cat923 ($40.30 in chips) Seat 2: Money022 ($25 in chips) Seat 3: shortseller6 ($3.20 in chips) Seat 4: devotee ($16.85 in chips) Seat 5: money path ($4.95 in chips) Seat 6: PairONines ($24.45 in chips) Seat 7: pixels2232 ($32.95 in chips) Seat 8: Lost Metal ($4.75 in chips) Seat 9: Cypher19 ($39.65 in chips) PairONines: posts small blind $0.10pixels2232: posts big blind $0.25Money022: posts big blind $0.25*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to Money022 [As Ks]Lost Metal: folds Cypher19: folds cat923: raises $1 to $1.25Money022: calls $1shortseller6: folds devotee: folds money path: folds PairONines: folds pixels2232: calls $1*** FLOP *** [Ad 5h 2s]pixels2232: checks cat923: bets $2.50Money022: raises $4.50 to $7pixels2232: folds cat923: folds Money022 collected $8.45 from pot Link to post Share on other sites
Altruist 0 Posted February 10, 2007 Share Posted February 10, 2007 Oh well. You weren't going to get anything out of him anyway. Before I saw the results I was with Wasp in smooth calling the flop and moving in on the turn if it's 9 or less. Either way you were all done getting money out of this Villain.Nice start to the night. Link to post Share on other sites
jeff_536 3 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Oh well. You weren't going to get anything out of him anyway. Before I saw the results I was with Wasp in smooth calling the flop and moving in on the turn if it's 9 or less. Either way you were all done getting money out of this Villain.Nice start to the night. That's the point Sklansky makes in his NL book. Don't bother slowplaying. Make your bet and hope he has a real good second best hand he's gonna pay you off with. Link to post Share on other sites
Mattnxtc 0 Posted February 11, 2007 Share Posted February 11, 2007 Havent read replies so: I think there are 2 lines you can take in this: 1. With the line youve used I would probably flat call this flop (FPS) and then look to raise ai any turn that he bets2. The better line imo is to reraise him to 3-4 preflop and if he bets the flop push...if he checks bet at or around the potAFter reading replies yeah u seem to have an understanding of the 2 lines. Waiting to teh turn is much better imo to get aggressive since this board is very draw light Link to post Share on other sites
Whiskey16 1 Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I can see smooth calling or check/raising here. Smooth calling might get you some more in the long run, but a lot of players won't keep putting money in the pot with KK/QQ or a weaker A if you just flat call and check the turn, not knowing anything about you.I think the check raise is the right play, and hope someone overplays an A with a weaker kicker. Link to post Share on other sites
homnig 0 Posted February 13, 2007 Share Posted February 13, 2007 Also, I'd wait for my bb before posting. Link to post Share on other sites
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