Chris E 0 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 btw might be a stupid question but does anyone know where I can watch the fights again online? http://www.k-1fans.com/forum/You'll need to become a member (free and takes like 5minutes) but its well worth it. Has UFC very quickly and also Boxing, Kickboxing etc. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 which leads to this question/rant:Are Pride fighters WAY overrated? no they aren't, but they fought under a different set of rules and they fought in a ring. Rampage and henderson were the only ones who had any decent experience in an octogon(Jackson from when he was in KoTC and Henderson did some fights for UFC back in the 90s). The other guys are used to fighting in a boxing ring and when you are given a tough fight right off the bat, it's a very hard adjustment. Two other things, 1) there are some rules that Pride fighters just aren't used to like elbows, and some rules that have been taken away from their game that they've had for years(like soccer kicks) 2) PRIDE had no roids testing, and Shogun's body looked a ton different from when he was in PRIDE. Another factor is that many of the PRIDE fighters were smaller fighters in their division. WHat I mean by that is that cro cop was fighting HW at 225 and Shogun was fighting in the 200 lb division with only cutting a few lbs. In the UFC, you have guys that are used to doing lots of cutting and come into their fights a good 10-15 lbs heavier then their weigh in. Forrest was a good 15-20 lbs heavier then Shogun, and that kind of stuff makes a different over 15 minutes. If shogun learned how to cut, he'd be great at 185 Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted October 4, 2007 Share Posted October 4, 2007 Until someone proves otherwise, I still have Dan Henderson #2 in that division and at least #2 in 185 if he wants to fight there.he was only on a 2 fight contract, so his next fight is his last fight of his contract, and it'll be at 205. If he gets resigned to a longer contract, he'll end up at 185 most likely Link to post Share on other sites
Jargonator 0 Posted October 8, 2007 Share Posted October 8, 2007 Torrent sites are a good option. Dailymotion is better than YouTube but get still get removed.If you don't want to use torrent sites, here's a couple of links I use.http://www.watchtvsitcoms.com/fighting.php I'm giving away my secrets!! loland I've used this before too.. navigate through, e.g- click on fighters name on right, and it comes up with all their fights available http://www.mmalinker.com/Hope this helps.. don't say I don't do anything for you guys whats with you stealing my avatar?? i got dibs on ashcroft didn't anyone tell you? Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted October 11, 2007 Share Posted October 11, 2007 wowhttp://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=3059019I don't know whether to be happy or sad. I'm glad he made the decision to go out on top, but I sure as hell would like to see him fight again. thoughts?the one thing I don't get is that he won't be commentator anymore. that kinda sucks; he was really good. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted October 11, 2007 Author Share Posted October 11, 2007 WOW. That is huge news. Good for Randy for taking a stand though. Link to post Share on other sites
BigLebowski 0 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Good for him. He really wanted to fight Cro Cop, but a couple of guys didn't hear about that plan. Big Nog is the only available guy that I would like to see him fight. Brandon Vera vs Tim Sylvia FTB? Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted October 12, 2007 Author Share Posted October 12, 2007 Good for him. He really wanted to fight Cro Cop FEDOR--fyp.The article says as much. At 44, can't wait forever though. Good for him to go out on top. Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 Hmmm top guy makes 700k a fight. $4-5 million live gates, $39.95 *1 million ppv hits, plus the spike tv money. I dont blame Randy or others 1 bit for trying to get a fair share of the pie. I also read where Jardine got 14 thousand for his Liddel fight. Link to post Share on other sites
KDawgCometh 2 Posted October 12, 2007 Share Posted October 12, 2007 I also read where Jardine got 14 thousand for his Liddel fight. don't be dumb. Do you really think that Jardine only got 14K for Main Eventing a PPV. Only the base pay is ever listed publicly, I can garuntee you that Jardine got a cut on the PPV revenue and most likely also got a nice bonus from his sponsors. Many of the top fighters in the UFC get a % of the PPV. Tito ended up making around 1.5m for his fight with Liddell last year when all was said and done, but he was only listed as making ~150K for his base pay Link to post Share on other sites
ol'number7 0 Posted October 13, 2007 Share Posted October 13, 2007 wow, some amazing quotes from Dana White cut and pasted from Sherdog:"Fedor has that mystique where people think he's No. 1, which I don't agree with," White told UFC.com. "I think that Fedor is completely overrated -- he's fought Mark Coleman (Pictures) and Matt Lindland (Pictures) in the last year, with Mark Hunt (Pictures) being his only legitimate opponent -- and I actually think that Randy Couture (Pictures) would have smashed Fedor." Randy Couture (Pictures) has had an amazing career, he's an incredible athlete, he's pulled off more upsets, and has been the underdog so many times, what's really left out there for him? I think he would have put a stone cold beating on Fedor, and he would have walked away with the same thing that he's walking away with now. He's walking out on top, and walking out on top is a smart thing to do. And it's perfect for his acting career." I believe the exact opposite regarding Fedor, does anyone else think Randy could beat him? I have to believe Dana is saying these things just to pimp up UFC quality, and is very bitter he failed to sign Fedor... Link to post Share on other sites
James D 0 Posted October 14, 2007 Share Posted October 14, 2007 is very bitter he failed to sign Fedor...I think this is true.The problems in signing Fedor (not sure what the latest situation is, but there's been agent/contract probs for a while), clearly have lead him to say those things. Kind of backed up by the fact that he's been on record before saying how great Fedor is, world's best etc etc, when it looked like he was going to sign for UFC.Not sure whether this is him genuinely thinking that trying to sign Fedor is too problematic and will never happen (therefore play down the 'legend'), and he's decided to wipe his hands of Fedor... or, an attempt to get to Fedor through criticism as a last resort, in order to make him sign to prove himself.One thing's for sure though, I would LOVE to see Fedor in the UFC. Just love it. Link to post Share on other sites
Chris E 0 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I think Couture could very well beat Fedor. I would say that Couture has better wrestling than Coleman who managed to take Fedor down. I could see Couture taking Fedor down and grinding out a win. And, unlike Coleman, Couture has good submission defence. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 6 months ago I would have said that fedor would annihilate couture. now, after seeing all of the other "greats" from pride come in and basically get their asses handed to them, not so much. I'm still bitter over cro cop. Link to post Share on other sites
Jadaki 0 Posted October 16, 2007 Share Posted October 16, 2007 I've heard some rumors of Mark Cuban buying up a rival company to UFC. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted October 17, 2007 Author Share Posted October 17, 2007 Interesting article on Yahoo today. Not sure how much weight to give it though -- no way Randy walked away from that kind of cash.http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news;_ylt=AoO6...o&type=lgnsBy Kevin Iole, Yahoo! SportsOctober 16, 2007 Randy Couture's next move is foremost on the minds of those who closely follow mixed martial arts.But bet on this: Couture will be in a suit in a court room before he's wearing board shorts preparing to fight Fedor Emelianenko any time soon.Couture's resignation as UFC heavyweight champion and subsequent decision to sever all ties with the company dominated the reader response this week.But before we get a sampling of what you had to say, here's a quick take on some of the key points in the case:Have no doubt that Mark Cuban, the Dallas Mavericks' owner, would-be Chicago Cubs owner and the fledgling MMA promoter, is somehow involved in the M-1 Mix Fight promotion that allegedly signed Emelianenko to a multi-million dollar contract last week. Cuban declined comment via e-mail when asked whether he is part of M-1.Non-UFC sources say that the contract Couture negotiated and signed before his comeback fight against Tim Sylvia in March is for four fights and between $13 million and $15 million, which puts him behind only Chuck Liddell, at four fights and $17 million, in the UFC salary pecking order. Those numbers are believed to include percentages of pay-per-view money.Couture believes he can be a free agent after sitting out nine months, which would mean he figures he can fight Emelianenko sometime in late spring or early summer of 2008.UFC president Dana White insists Couture must fight twice for the UFC to fulfill his contract and become a free agent. Those differences of opinion are going to land the parties in court. After nine months, expect Couture to try to fight and the UFC to go to court to stop him. Couture will argue that time is of the essence, because he'll be nearly 45, and that if he isn't granted a court order and allowed to fight, he'll be irreparably harmed. The UFC will argue that its entire business will be undermined if Couture is allowed to break his contract.Couture handled the situation as poorly as he could have. He was in South Africa filming a movie when he made the announcement. He would have come off a lot classier had he been in the U.S. and faced the media to answer the tough questions.The winner of the Brandon Vera-Tim Sylvia fight on Saturday at UFC 77 in Cincinnati will meet Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira for the vacant heavyweight title sometime early next year. Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted October 19, 2007 Author Share Posted October 19, 2007 Just saw that one of the matches at the November UFC is Rashad Evans v. Michael Bisping.Does Bisping have ANY chance? Link to post Share on other sites
grocery_mony 8 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Just saw that one of the matches at the November UFC is Rashad Evans v. Michael Bisping.Does Bisping have ANY chance?I think he does. Evans looked just ok vs Tito(albeit Tito has deeper resume than Bisbing. )Evans should and will be the favorite but anything over +200 I would be tempmted to take Bisbing. I personally think both these guys should be at 185, especially if Silva wins tommorow that could set up some good 185 matches.On a side note I saw on the Score scroll yesterday that UFC has cancelled a planned January event in Montreal. Can anyone fill me in on the details? Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted October 20, 2007 Author Share Posted October 20, 2007 The UFC has a "Fantasy" game now. I'll deffo be checking this out. Maybe if there's any interest and if it's any good (I have yet to look at it), we can get a little forum gamboooooooooling going.http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=news.detail&gid=8294 Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted October 20, 2007 Author Share Posted October 20, 2007 Hmm -- gleaned a bit of information from that UFC fantasy page... Roger Huerta v. Clay Guida is the final matchup for this season's Ultimate Fighter reality show.Wonder why they would post that up there... Link to post Share on other sites
steve7stud 0 Posted October 20, 2007 Share Posted October 20, 2007 Some quick thoughts.First of all. I just can't seem to get enough of the UFC lately. I keep buying those ppv's every month whether it's a good card or not. Does Matt Sera remind anyone else of Rocky? Not literally. But the little guy, the underdog, etc. That guy has so much heart. I think he's a great coach, got a second chance, made the most of it and has a belt now. Pretty cool. I like him and Hughes as coaches.Diego Sanchez. WTF. He was my favorite fighter in the UFC. I thought the guy had so much talent and ability. His last two fights he just seems to have lost "it". I have no clue where his heart is. Now, I know that he fought to guys from AKA. And for sure they were tough. Kos and Finch are both talented. But Diego REALLY dissappointed me in both fights. When Diego fought Parysian, he left it all on the mat. And Parysian is tough as hell. In fact I think Karo is just as good as Finch and Josh. So I honestly have no clue what happened to Diego. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
bdc30 0 Posted October 20, 2007 Author Share Posted October 20, 2007 I'm really not a big fan of Matt Serra, he seems so phony. I have to say though Serra>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hughes in this season's show. Matt Hughes has come off looking like a moron SO many times in this series. Link to post Share on other sites
koepsy 0 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 I dont like how Serra didn't defended his title in a timly manner. He should have fought somebody 6 months ago. Link to post Share on other sites
BigLebowski 0 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 I like Serra, but I think he over-coaches during the fights. You have to prepare these guys, get them a game plan, and then let them go out there and fight. I don't like the way he coaches during the fights.I think Diego's public image has affected him the most. I think he has let the criticisms get to him whereas before he simply didn't listen to any of it. Win or lose, it sounded like he was getting booed at every event and I think that really got to him mentally. Title defense every 6 months or you give it up. Only exemption is a medical injury, but time span can not exceed 9 months. I think if Couture fought Fedor tomorrow it would be over quickly in favor of Couture. I think if they fought in 3 months Couture would have his way again. If they fought in 6 months and Fedor could squeeze in a couple between now and then I think it will be much more even. This card tonight was one of the weakest is a long long time. And they have Evans vs Bisping for the main event next month? Uh yeah, thanks, but no thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
steve7stud 0 Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 I like Serra, but I think he over-coaches during the fights. You have to prepare these guys, get them a game plan, and then let them go out there and fight. I don't like the way he coaches during the fights.I think Diego's public image has affected him the most. I think he has let the criticisms get to him whereas before he simply didn't listen to any of it. Win or lose, it sounded like he was getting booed at every event and I think that really got to him mentally. Title defense every 6 months or you give it up. Only exemption is a medical injury, but time span can not exceed 9 months. I think if Couture fought Fedor tomorrow it would be over quickly in favor of Couture. I think if they fought in 3 months Couture would have his way again. If they fought in 6 months and Fedor could squeeze in a couple between now and then I think it will be much more even. This card tonight was one of the weakest is a long long time. And they have Evans vs Bisping for the main event next month? Uh yeah, thanks, but no thanks.I didn't know that Serra was injured. I thought that Dana White held off on having him fight so that he and Hughes could square off after the Ultimate Fighter.I don't mind the way that Serra coaches. The guy is kind of a nut, in a good way though. Really cares about his fighters. A lot of times a fighter will get into the octagon and be put into a tough spot. Fortunately, Serra is so damn loud, you can always hear the guy.No clue what to say about Diego. Kid just boggles my mind these days. I wish he would get it together. I think he has insane talent. I actually picked him to beat St. Pierre if and when they fought.The UFC tonight was pretty boring. I was completely dissappointed in the Vera vs Silvia fight. Silvia is just boring, and Vera never really got into it. Almost looked like the fight was fixed. It's funny that Tim always looks shocked when the crowd doesn't like him though. Guy never delivers.Anderson Silva put on a clinic. I thought betting on Franklin would be a good idea in this one. Luckily I didn't. I was unimpressed with Silva's last two fights, but he has Rich's number for sure. Either that or he is just getting insanely good.The UFC has soooooo much talent, and they throw together these random fights every month. I'm dissappointed. I still love it. But with as much talent as they have, they should really make the cards MUCH better than what we currently have. Link to post Share on other sites
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