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It was meh. Not good, not bad.

Guida, Hendo both need to hang them up.

 

I wish I knew Fabio Maldonado had planned on not striking at all. That was *still* not a +450 fight but he didn't do much to prove it totally wrong. I ate shit on Draftkings since I had Guida and Souza on all my cards.

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There goes about 3/4 of a years worth of winnings.

Seats - There are no good seats (unless you are ringside). We had floor seats 11 rows from the ring... pretty close and I paid quite a bit. I couldn't see shit. You can't see over other people's heads

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Why would you ever take Guida on DK? He's s decision machine. Gotta find those finishers

 

 

I'm rarely right, so don't mind if I take a victory lap on the Anderson/Maldonado fight.

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Hall has the raw tools to beat anyone at 185, his lines now reflect this. Whittaker is a bad dude and very well might be made of the right stuff to emotionally break Hall (which is how you beat him), but in the meantime, he has to endure a lot of dangerous leaping-negroness that can put you to sleep might quick.

 

I wouldn't bet on the Hunt/Silva fight. There is no way to have any insight into it. I'd rather play blackjack than bet fights like that.

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My card so far

Rousey

Joanna J (not even gonna try to spell it)

Silva (needed a live dog for the salary cap)

Hall

 

Not sure on the final fight. Probably go with Perosh. I only have about 2 or three options down that low. I picked these fights because most are finishers. Need those early, violent stoppages

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My card so far

Rousey

Joanna J (not even gonna try to spell it)

Silva (needed a live dog for the salary cap)

Hall

 

Not sure on the final fight. Probably go with Perosh. I only have about 2 or three options down that low. I picked these fights because most are finishers. Need those early, violent stoppages

 

That's the right card. Perosh for value because of subs, although he's a KO liability, Villante has KO's and hasn't shown much sub liability. The old man's going to need to slap a choke on to win. That's for sure, but with the cap ****ed up by Rousey and JJ, Perosh is the play, since Villante fights dumb, although coming from Serra/Longo, you have to assume he's going to be informed enough to at least know to not rely on his wrestling (because of Perosh's subs) and keep it standing (where he has the clear advantage). Perosh in this spot is a pick you make when you must, not because you want to.

 

I have a feeling there's going to be a ****ton of overlap since everyone's going to take Rousey and JJ, which is going to leave them hunting for dogs, which Silva and Perosh are the best picks.

 

I'm not interested enough in this card to dig deep into the unders and try to find value there (which is stupid of me since its precisely cards like this where you want to play those eccentric value picks; it only takes one of weird pick to come in and one favorite to lose before you're thrust ITM). 'Surprise value' is what sets you apart from the pack on DK and its just hard to do in a Rousey fight when you are almost forced to take the massive cap hit up front, then everyone's scrambling for the same cheap guys so 80% of the cards look the same for a reason.

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Whittaker decision'd Hall. I'm not watching the fight so I'd be interested so see how it went down.

That Noke front kick was the nastiest body kick I've seen in a while.

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Whittaker decision'd Hall. I'm not watching the fight so I'd be interested so see how it went down.

That Noke front kick was the nastiest body kick I've seen in a while.

Whittaker just kept the distance with great boxing. Hall got tired chasing him the whole fight and gassed in the third. Hall also kept complaining about eye pokes when he was getting punched, not poked. He still connected with a few sweet head kicks, including one really nice straight head kick, but pretty much looked like he does in most of his losses... gassed and didn't throw enough strikes.

 

Holm looked absolutely incredible

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Holm looked better last night than she ever has. I wonder if she'll be a dog in the rematch, because her performance was dominant. Ronda Rousey's attachment to those low rent Armenians must end. The stakes are just too high. Shit tier training and terrible, terrible strategy just cost her seven, maybe even eight figures.

 

You stay loyal to your town doctor when you have the flu. You go to the best when you have cancer.

She isn't fighting the toughest girl in the Zumba class anymore. She's taking on the very best of all comers. She needs a better team.

 

Deep down, I think she knew she had problems with Holm. She acted differently. She definitely didn't take a dive, which is always a concern with fighters who get insane lines in their favor. I know what a dive looks like. That wasn't a dive.

 

I wonder how much money the UFC could make if it only signed women fighters willing to make a lesbian porn with each other, right after fighting? They might want to consider that for Fightpass.

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I like how everyone knows that Ronda's coach is shit because of one snippet where the coach says excellent job and because a clip of a clearly psycho Ronda's mom

 

Literally, I have no idea what you just said there.

 

Her coach is shit because he's way, way low level relative to what Holm gets in a place like J-W and Rousey's involvement with him is some pre-fame loyalty thing, not a deliberate decision to find the best camp. His involvement in the fight game seems to be some kind of ethnocentric thing with Armenian fighters, not as a high caliber operator.

 

Rousey is his meal ticket. He is nothing without her. She only gets better without him.

Did her mother say something like this? Because if so, her mother is correct.

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Rousey's involvement with him is some pre-fame loyalty thing, not a deliberate decision to find the best camp. His involvement in the fight game seems to be some kind of ethnocentric thing with Armenian fighters, not as a high caliber operator.

 

Rousey is his meal ticket. He is nothing without her. She only gets better without him.

Did her mother say something like this? Because if so, her mother is correct.

 

Pretty much exactly this. Loyalty, uses her to gain customers, he's garbage and all of that.

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I cannot be more excited for 194. It's funny how watching Rousey go down was more exciting than watching the hype train continue. I guess that's the love of the underdog. I remember a hundred years ago how fun it was to watch Tyson destroy everyone in his path, but I also vividly remember watching that Buster Douglas fight live and being excited about the upset, and something memorable.

 

It's funny how Aldo hasn't lost in 10 years, yet I still want to see him smash CM

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Everyone, both fans and media, started going after the coach after Ronda's mom released that video, and after Ronda lost this fight. Other than these two instances nobody really said anything about her coach. I just don't think you know enough about it. All you've said is that they are low level Armenians. It sounds like they've had high caliber fighters train there, how do you know they are low level? Tell me specifically what is so bad about their coaching, and then you might convince me that you know what you're talking about.

 

I know I'm coming off dickish by the way, not my intention, I'm just confused as to why you're so sure that these coaches are shit.

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She's been with this guy from the beginning. What are the chances she stumbled into the best possible coach from day one, a coach who wanted nothing to do with her for months before he finally gave in to her persistence?

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It's funny how watching Rousey go down was more exciting than watching the hype train continue. I guess that's the love of the underdog.

 

The hype train before this fight was the worst I have ever seen.

RONDA ROUSEY ISN'T A ONCE IN A LIFETIME FIGHTER, SHE IS A ONCE EVER FIGHTER!

Stuff like this:

https://www.reddit.c..._drinking_game/

 

I am tempted (and just may yet) to make a video that rounds up all the hype material, all the chatter, all the UFC promo's, some of the choicer Reddit and forum posts, and put them in video format with some amusing editing.

 

Dana White is ****ing despondent. Rousey was the biggest thing they ever had. Look at his humbled, 1000 yard stare as he addresses 'making this fight' in such a way that implies ownership of a mistake for killing a golden goose (which is precisely why they didn't make McGregor/Edgar)

 

 

 

https://www.youtube....h?v=vK-NN1ufjoQ

 

 

Now contrast that with this picture taken of Dana before the Holm fight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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... its probably going to be a long week in Fertittaville.

 

but I also vividly remember watching that Buster Douglas fight live and being excited about the upset, and something memorable.

 

42-1 fix up.

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Everyone, both fans and media, started going after the coach after Ronda's mom released that video, and after Ronda lost this fight. Other than these two instances nobody really said anything about her coach. I just don't think you know enough about it. All you've said is that they are low level Armenians. It sounds like they've had high caliber fighters train there, how do you know they are low level? Tell me specifically what is so bad about their coaching, and then you might convince me that you know what you're talking about.

 

The have zero performance record, other than stumbling into Rousey before she was famous.

 

Name one "high level" guy who has trained there that isn't an Armenian (and excluding Travis Browne who was chasing Rousey's ass, as evidenced by that outcome)?

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Tyson to a pretty good beating for that to be a work. And how could something like that be kept secret for 25 years?

 

I wonder how much money Don King was making/taking from Tyson

 

Sorry, mma. Weidman or Rockhold: not who wins, but who would you rather bang? Or, if you want to pretend you're straight, who would you want your wife to bang? I say Rockhold. The wife prefers Weidman

 

Ok, fine, who wins the fight? I think Rockhold might take this one.

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i think I'm coming more to your side

 

The thing is that the Armenian is her head coach, but she also trains with kickboxing world champs, and we also don't know who they hire to come in for sparring partners

 

If she changes to a different camp they are going to completely change her game. I don't think her mma needs to change but her strategy needs to change. It's prob too late to really try to completely improve her game. I think if Ronda slows down and looks for better spots to grapple she'll eventually find her spot. She only found that once in the recent fight where Holm got up, I feel like if Ronda slowed down she'd probably be able to drag Holm down again and probably find her spot

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She had no idea what to do when she encountered someone who wasn't afraid of her and skilled enough to dish it back.

 

I do believe (one hundred percent) that what we saw there was an emotional crumbling, more than a physical one. Women are all emotionally unstable. Her fight game amounted to being the bully. What do bullies always do when they pick on that guy who they estimated wrong?

 

I think she can take it back, but she's going to have to get her mind right. Taverdyan is a ham-and-egger. He just filed bankruptcy claiming that he had no assets and hadn't filed taxes, ever. Avoiding Federal prison a couple years from now when the IRS gets on him will be a minor miracle. He's not someone capable of advanced fight, nuanced strategies. He's fine as some parasite who clings on as long as her outlying athletic talent seems unbeatable but as the old saying in investing goes... you see who's swimming naked when the tide goes out. The tide went out in the form of Holly Holm.

 

She needs Serra-Longo. I know I've said this before but I believe them to be the best fight minds in the game, they have done more with less than anyone else in MMA. Either that or maybe AKA.

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